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I was thinking exactly along those lines myself Again you are expecting people to organise themselves and remembering to bring an armband. Turning your back on the game, requires no extra thought than just being there. Do it for the first 15 minutes only if need be but it is simple to organise and effective. Everyone wear a black armband at the game? Not a bad idea like. The only thing about turning you back during the game is a lot of people would see it as anger towards the players (not that they've done brilliant or owt) when anything done needs to be blatently obvious its about the ownership of the club. But still a possibility if organized well. The other problem of course is its all seater! how the fuck do we all turn our backs when sitting down? (I didnt quite think that one through fully like). The black armband is good but then again where do you buy them? Ive not seen them in ASDA. I do like the idea of black though, surely everyone owns a black t-shirt, jumper, jacket, shirt etc. An entire sea of black across the ground would be an effective display without having to do anything at all other than get dressed in the morning.

oh how very normal

You decided to come and see the team you support like did you? going be over soon i reckon got a card for 20% off eye tests in the post this morning, with a snazzy keyring! Its not just eye tests my friend, its everything.... well everything sold by an opticians, its like someone knew though that I now need geps. Will come in handy methinks.

You decided to come and see the team you support like did you?

Anyway its about and hour and a half after he was allegedly landing. Anyone seen him wandering round town?

tbf its more likely that the Suntan of Broon Eye would take us over, thats our kind of luck.

Therein lies the problem, the Sultan of Brunei is the one with the dosh, this Brunai fella's an imposter. Would doubt there's anything in it at all, and I believe he has his own vehicle fleet in the UK so Limo bookings/stories highly doubtfull. Fuck I hope so!!!! This is something I didnt bank on with the bet, what happens if theres a takeover and we spunk £500million on players????

haha matches the email Radgina sent me yesterday, reckoning a limo driver had told people the job for tonight was to drive the Sultan of Brunai from the training ground to SJP.

yo fizzle ma shizzle thingy wotsit mofo.

maybe, but if its not then people need to be aware.

Why not? You called him one Yeah, I can call him a businessman, he however can't

here we go maaaan, it will be non stop from here on in (or should that be out?)

This is doing the rounds at the minute, Ive heard from a couple of different sources on this. Like people seem to be saying though a lot of the transactions are down London way. Thats not a "cockney mafia" dig but just appears to be one of those strange coincidences. Either way though, if there is a scam going on through the box office then it needs to be sorted and sharpish.

at the end of the day anyone who is willing to buy a football club from shepherd and hall without due dilligence cannot call themselves a businessman. If he had done that then we wouldn't have been in the mess we are now. He would have either walked away or negotiated a better purchase price leaving more to invest wisely.

Well funnily enough you've managed to make it up, thick fuck.

Then I take it all back, the mans obviously a saint who bought us purely to ensure that a national institution and household name didnt die. Sorry for calling you a fat twat Ash.....

What a load of shite. The debt on the stadium had to be repaid- it had nothing to do with Ashley or any advice he was given. Like the £100m loan Ashley has made to the club, any change of control gives the right for the debt to be called. The investors who had loaned the money took the opportunity to get their cash back now rather than later- so it would have made no difference. The little analogy is similar nonsense. Ashley had a large mound of cash after selling off half of Sports Direct for £800m or so. He put his own cash in to the club because he felt it would be better to do that than invest his £100m elsewhere at 5% and borrow at 7% (borrowings in the club's parlous state would not come cheap). So in fact he was managing his finances sensibly. You're talking rot.....fact. Just wanting to play devils advocaat (or whatever) but could it not be more prudent in the football world to continue paying 7% interest on a mortgage and invest the 100million on new players. That investment would in turn, increase revenue in ticket and merchandising, increase the clubs value overall and most importantly get us higher up the table which in turn would automatically generate us additional income in TV revenue and possibly a European place allowing us to finance the interest payments?

Then that needs to be raised at the meeting and voted on, get a solid agreement across the board. Otherwise all we'll have is that bloke from that other site sitting at home on a Saturday afternoon. I dont agree with it but if its whats decided then I go along with that. Personally Id prefer the idea of the silent treatment, or the entire ground pulling out a paper at kick off and reading that. All wearing black. Those sort of things to me make statements, Not going to the game can be put down to apathy or fickle fans. Going and showing our dissatisfaction in a visible way is different.

How much for the graphics card?

Seriously though, this is the chance for those that want to do something to do it, its not a members meeting, its not a recruitment drive (although there will be no complaints if people do join up). Its a chance for all aspects of NUFC fans to come together and decide on a collective way forward. Whether that way be boycotts, marches, silences or for that matter a letter of support to the owners. We come together, thrash out the agreed way forward and then work together, NUSC, websites, blogs, fanzines, forums etc all joining up to do something big. Its also a chance to have your moan, those that have sat and argued the toss about the NUSC, you quite understandably have your reasons, your beliefs whatever. This is your chance to make them heard and get answers. As for those that cant make it, those at work or the many of you that live outside of Toon (and no Stevie I dont mean Gatesheeeed) I am looking into a way to get you participating too. All NUFC fans views are valid, all are welcome.

Im looking to do a live internet radio broadcast but am not quite sure where to start, I know I can use shoutcast and probably need winamp for that, does anyone have experience of this?

I heard it too, from a fairly reliable source. The one logical reason I can see for not playing him is that we are holding him until its 100% necessary ie with a few games of the season to go and absolutely nobody to play instead. It did make me ask the question last time though, imagine we're 4th bottom last game of season, Owen, Oba, Shola and Carroll are crocked and Xisco has played 9 games already. Win and we stay up, do you reckon they'll play him and pay the extra or will they want to save the cash and play Duff up front?

I know it's hard when you find out that if it wasn't for Ashley guaranteeing to support us financially we would be in administration but you've got to take it on the chin. I'd have a modicum of respect for you (not that I'm suggesting you're arsed about that) if you didn't go hiding when he was doing things like offering Kinnear the job on a permanent basis or trying to flog Given. But where would you and your petty point scoring be then? Thats the thing, before I entered the thread I knew he'd have posted in yet strangely two weeks with nowt beforehand. Thing is Baggy mate, I hope you're working plenty overtime to cover the obvious gambling debts you're going to have, if nothing else these accounts prove we aint gonna spend a penny this month (as if anyone other than you believed we would) My argument stands btw, theres no way Mike Ashley bought this club to save it from ruin, he bought us to make money, now that his original plan to do that is fucked (ie more debt than he realised (own fault for not doing due diligence), a credit crunch and a fanbase that hates him (Baggio excepted of course)) then he goes to plan b. The bit I find incredible is that these accounts run to July, the time when Keegan was here, the time preceeding the infamous transfer window yet the talk coming out of the club was all good, there'll be money to spend, KK was obviously given that view. I believe these accounts to be accurate Im not disputing that however the ones that will be interesting will be next Julys. Those I cannot wait to see pulled apart.

Erm, isn't that article referring to even earlier accounts than the ones in the OP? The lad who posted the stuff I copied from N-O is an accountant and appears to know his stuff - far more than me, or some guy from The Journal I imagine. It appears to me (from a totally uneducated eye, I admit) that Ashley has put into NUFC almost a quarter of a BILLION pounds of his own money. Does he really deserve the vitriol he gets? Yes he does, he didnt pump that money in for the love of the football club he did it for business reasons. These accounts do not show what he is taking out of the club, I dont know what that is maybe its nothing but then again maybe hes charging the club even more interest than the banks were. We are not debt free, we have merely changed banks. If anything we are in a more precarious position now than we were before. A bank will follow a code, a bank will close your account and demand the money back if we fail to pay the debt back. What a bank wont do is either get bored with you and decide they want it back or throw their toys out of the pram and demand you do certain things to raise the finance. I still believe that his plan all along was to buy the club, refinance the debts take 10 or 20 million per annum in dividends and interest on that debt for a couple of years then sell us on at a profit. Maybe even at the start he believed that he was going to take us onwards and upwards while doing that but then he employed a team of total and utter fuckwits to run the show. More importantly he deserves our contempt because of the way in which he treats us the fans, he sees us as nothing more than willing mugs who will generate the cash regardless.

What's going to be fucking awesome is when we dick around for another four or five days and then sell Given to Shitty for 10 million, but don't have enough time to get any other deals in place before the window closes. "Wait until summer though, lads!" Will be the cry... Thast the thing, Ashley will be doing his dinger, "whats the use of another £12million in the bank lads, I wanted to spend this and more on some quality players....oh well c'est la vie"