Park Life

It's fucking frighteningly casual advice at best. Fact of the matter is if Tom's to get it off the ground then he's going to need funds, and that means he's going to need some pretty robust answers to the types of points that have been raised when he goes knocking on the bank's door. Field of Dreams platitudes alone are gonna get the lad laughed out of any business meeting and even Parky would have to accept that. I run my own business what made it work wasn't anything to do with business things it was all to do with that I wanted to do it. That has to be in place first. All the other stuff although important is secondary. IMHO. I also sometimes get paid to go and talk to other companies in my field on where they could improve. There is a lot of commonsensical advice in this thread I agree. But finally in my experience what it will stand and fall on is Tom's desire to do it. What is it and who gave you the finances to start it without you showing them some sort of business plan? I went to the bank with 4 contracts signed in my hand worth £38,000 and asked if I could open a business account.

It's fucking frighteningly casual advice at best. Fact of the matter is if Tom's to get it off the ground then he's going to need funds, and that means he's going to need some pretty robust answers to the types of points that have been raised when he goes knocking on the bank's door. Field of Dreams platitudes alone are gonna get the lad laughed out of any business meeting and even Parky would have to accept that. I run my own business what made it work wasn't anything to do with business things it was all to do with that I wanted to do it. That has to be in place first. All the other stuff although important is secondary. IMHO. I also sometimes get paid to go and talk to other companies in my field on where they could improve. There is a lot of commonsensical advice in this thread I agree. But finally in my experience what it will stand and fall on is Tom's desire to do it.

The Mail has to be the most clueless paper in Christendom.

You need a name people remember. T-Keith would be good. Yeh. I would probably go for something simple but for a guitar shop it has to appeal to the middle classes because apart from middle aged freaks with a guitar fetish that's where the money is. Middle class people are quite happy to pay full RRP & you often see old fellas coming into to shops and spending thousands casually, the shop just has to have the right look and feel to get them in. Strangely I have found out that there is a lot of money in plectrums. Even at an ebay level you can get them for 35p each (when you buy 24), so if you bought them at supplier price you would make a killing, selling in bulk or individual (Between 60p & £1.50). Unless Guitar Guitar closes down Newcastle is a no go and I don't think Durham has the demand. You see you already know quite something about the market and ways to build revenue streams (boring words). Don't let the boring bits deter you. It is more likely that good ideas or ideas you have a passion for become successful businesses. That is more or less an accepted fact. An idea with no passion behind it no matter how well run rarely succeeds or delivers above mediocre results. You have the core attributes/knowledge regarding the market and the products ( I feel you already know deep down what will work). Take it from there. Perhaps a custom guitar making service as an add on? I have no idea it's just a thought. It's a thing the rich like.

Tom man, I don't think anyones having a pop at your ambition. At the very least the posts which are sounding a word of caution are highlighting the sorts of questions your potential creditors would be asking you before extending finance. Forewarned is forearmed marra, so it's all good. Yeh it's going to require a fuckload of planning. I can imagine it taking a couple of years to organize and still it might result in nothing but it's worth trying. Business has very little to do with planning if it had anything to do with planning then all these cunts with Business Admin degrees would be millionaires instead of cunts which is what they are...... Take your dream and try it. There is always a way.....

You need a name people remember. T-Keith would be good.

That's the way baby.

Mobile phone towers etc....

The gold Feynoord one looks tasty.

id bet manu do for starters , and they are gonna win the league . manu,lpool,city, sunderland 50m+ chelski 100m (i hope not) villa,pompy,arsenal,everton 30-50m . thats the least of what will get spent by those teams i reckon. other clubs are not going to stand still why we try and push on , and the top 10 are definately going to spend this year , half are pushing for uefa spots , the rest champ league spots . the first lot of tv money last season was just the start of it . the thing that convinces me is man utd constant spending , they dont ever want to stand still , and without major investment they will never be caught . every step forward we take they take one aswell . we could afford to spend extra transfer money and take it back out of the club over a 5 year perior , and take two steps this year . To make a quantum change we need to spend around £100m, but that is if we can attract enough quality as HP says.

“Providing the owner backs me – and I’ve no proof of that yet, but no doubts he will – I can get three or four players in and if I can do that – and we have luck and no injuries to key, key players – then we might be able to win the ‘second league’ in the Premiership.” http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastl...61634-20865971/ to me that reads like he's pushing for a larger investment , he's pretty sure we are going to get enough for the 3-4 players , and with that he can make a challange on the teams in 10th to 5th . if ashley wants more than that he needs to rethink how much he's investing . thats how i take that anyway . seems like he's a fair idea of what he's getting . I'm guessing the net spend will be around £30-£40m.

Abramovich loves football. He's spent millions in Russia setting up academies and getting kids playing the game, he helped CSKA to winning the UEFA cup, he was instumental in getting Hiddink in for the Russian national team, and then there's what he's done at Chelsea. Ashley might be enjoying himself, but I think it's clear he has no interest in being so altruistic. It's just another gamble to Ashley if you ask me, far more of a plaything than Abramovich who loved the game long before coming to England. Ashley only worries that England didn't get into the Euro's because Umbro shirt sales won't get the normal summer boost. Glad to have him here, but I don't think the comparisons are entirely accurate. Of course Abramovich's love of the game brings it's own problems, he has a strong opinion on the footballing direction of his club so you get situations like the Shevchenko purchase and Grant's coup d'etat for example. Whilst I don't know whether or how much Abramovich loves the game, a lot of the work he has done in Russia has been because of political pressures on him. He simply couldn't be seen to be pumping millions into Chelsea while ignoring his homeland, he had to do something over there. His main concern when he builds a new yacht is the plasma screens and how much footie he can consume from around the world. He really loves the game. Been on his yacht like? No unfortunately. But a friend of mine here is doing the interior of his new one and was chatting in a somewhat alarmed manner about the need for so much plasma. I'd really like to meet him. He was here over xmas for a party for the company that builds/manages his boats. He was fleetingly glimpsed hunkered down in a side room watching Russan footie while the party went on around him.

The Russians love a sing song.

More Ultra I reckon.

Abramovich loves football. He's spent millions in Russia setting up academies and getting kids playing the game, he helped CSKA to winning the UEFA cup, he was instumental in getting Hiddink in for the Russian national team, and then there's what he's done at Chelsea. Ashley might be enjoying himself, but I think it's clear he has no interest in being so altruistic. It's just another gamble to Ashley if you ask me, far more of a plaything than Abramovich who loved the game long before coming to England. Ashley only worries that England didn't get into the Euro's because Umbro shirt sales won't get the normal summer boost. Glad to have him here, but I don't think the comparisons are entirely accurate. Of course Abramovich's love of the game brings it's own problems, he has a strong opinion on the footballing direction of his club so you get situations like the Shevchenko purchase and Grant's coup d'etat for example. Whilst I don't know whether or how much Abramovich loves the game, a lot of the work he has done in Russia has been because of political pressures on him. He simply couldn't be seen to be pumping millions into Chelsea while ignoring his homeland, he had to do something over there. His main concern when he builds a new yacht is the plasma screens and how much footie he can consume from around the world. He really loves the game.

I thank you. But honest how many chances would we get. He is a bloke that had too much too young and blew it. He is human so deserves help but no special help IMO How is it more "special help" than any other person would be getting? There are people and institutions who are connected to him who I think have a human resonsibility to take care and probably the chances to do so. That's not in any kind different to what I would expect from any ordinary people and institutions and how I would act and have acted when it comes to people I am connected with. I don't care how many chances he had and blew. As long as someone is in a state where he needs help he should get help. Simple as. Agreed.

Abramovich loves football. He's spent millions in Russia setting up academies and getting kids playing the game, he helped CSKA to winning the UEFA cup, he was instumental in getting Hiddink in for the Russian national team, and then there's what he's done at Chelsea. Ashley might be enjoying himself, but I think it's clear he has no interest in being so altruistic. It's just another gamble to Ashley if you ask me, far more of a plaything than Abramovich who loved the game long before coming to England. Ashley only worries that England didn't get into the Euro's because Umbro shirt sales won't get the normal summer boost. Glad to have him here, but I don't think the comparisons are entirely accurate. Of course Abramovich's love of the game brings it's own problems, he has a strong opinion on the footballing direction of his club so you get situations like the Shevchenko purchase and Grant's coup d'etat for example. Excellent appraisal of Roman.

Is that what Terry was doing like? Anyway, Bennett is a fucking arsehole. The farce where Chelsea's wall were refusing to go back the full 10 yards, I'm sitting there thinking "there's 5 or so Chelsea players there, you're the referee who is supposed to be in charge of the game, and they are TAKING THE PISS out of you and you're letting them." He had literally zero authority or respect from them, stood there telling them to move back and them just stood looking at him not moving an inch. Get your fucking card out, book one of them, and tell the rest of them that they're all getting one unless they step back 2 yards. If that doesn't shift them, then get the second yellow out and start shifting them off the pitch. Honestly, I would delight in putting these cocknose players in their place, and this prick actually has the opportunity to and is too weak to do it. Pathetic. Very frustrating to watch a wall basically with no inclination to move back even one inch. Cunts.

This on Sky? In the BBC interview he makes the point but he's talking more about the strength of the top 4 rather than having a go at the chairman and owner. Beeb interview here around 1min 30sec : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/m...day/7384594.stm SKY and Talksport were running the interview I quoted. Nearly moved to tears by his honesty. And rest be assured he sees it far clearer than any of us (the gulf). There is no shame trying to finish 5th or 6th next season (you can see deep down he's hurt cause he knows he can't compete). Few months ago I started a thread on N.O. that reached 20 odd pages where I was basically arguing that we need to spend £100m to compete and rightfully it attracted a fair bit of banter. I know these kinds of figures scare people and to some justifiably they might seem like big numbers, but when KK talks about not being able to get enough money in the summer I'm guessing these are the kinds of figures he has in his head. Stay as you are KK you're the best.

They had another gear basically.

Nowt. We've both been fairly poor. Very slow game. Can't say I'm displeased with the 0-0, would really like to see more from us though. An excellent display in my opinion, we've matched Chelsea in every department, played some wonderful passing flowing football. Agreed. If only we had someone in our MF who could pick a pass.

Geremi and Butt trying to pass forward are so so terrible.

Have you any cash to invest? Don't be put off by the 'sensible advise'. Although it is well meaning no one on here can have any clue as to your vision inc me.

Is that you agreeing? Yup.