LeazesMag

Teddy Sheringham ?

Dion Dublin

Andy Cole

quick reply, for one reason I have to go out, and another because a shorter post might encourage more to join in rather than just the 2 of us. I see you think you are a "centre viewpoint" person. Well, so do I. In things like law and order, I have certain views that some would call right wing, but on others, like NHS, education, public service, very much the opposite. However I think all of them are for how I perceive to be for the good of the country, which is why I think them ! But obviously others have the same mindset, so we are all the same in the end, we think. Regarding immigration, we just can't allow everyone in the country who wants to come. We just can't, it't totally unrealistic, so you have to have rules. And enforce them. It's no good someone wringing their hands and saying "they are people", of course they are, and in many cases it is sad but what can you do. It's a sad world, but in this country we do our best while putting ourselves first, thats human nature. I can't see the point of people demonstrating at politicians for doing nothing about it, while sitting in their own cozy armchairs. Why don't they give a hand and give up their cozy armchairs if they feel so badly ? Or go into politics if they think they can do better ? Likewise, if we do try to do something about it, like make their mother country a better place, and the world to live in, in the way we see it, they are criticised for being warmongers. And yes, I understand the arguments about Bush and oil. However, what would the reaction be if we invaded Zimbabwe ? There would be people simply unable to see it is impossible to mount an operation like this without innocent casualties, and kick up another fuss. Is this our fault, I mean, how would you do it, and most of us would like to see this tosspot removed from office, and personally I don't care what they do to him if they ever manage to get their hands on him. We could send in the SAS, or go undercover, if it were possible. But you know the same as myself, there are people who would hit the roof that he didn't get a fair trial, ridiculous. For anyone who disagrees, look at the trial of Saddam [trying to wriggle out of it], they should have shot him on the spot, no one would have known, and remember those 3 IRA people shot in Gib ? Good f**king riddance to scum.

Grand, still want my brandy though. 55553[/snapback] I hate brandy actually, it goes back to a sorry tale.....not fit for a family message board. Let's just say it hit me pretty hard once .....

previous post edited mate

I can see disagreeing with you about the riots in Paris has hit a nerve. Anyway, what was it I said about Owen ? 55546[/snapback] Read that again LM, then go and get yourself a cup of coffee. 55548[/snapback] No. I've read it again. You still seem to be saying I've said something about Owen ... EDIT: OK, I see it now....could be taken both ways.... And no, I don't have a hangover, as wifey was out last night and I had to stay in

I can see disagreeing with you about the riots in Paris has hit a nerve. Anyway, what was it I said about Owen ?

leazes ...crap posts on this thread for a while....then redeams himself at the end with quality!!!! 55523[/snapback] shame but I thought the original idea is good enough to be a possible sticky, like "what are you listening to", until Omar converted it from the sublime to the ridiculous

Agree NO MAN is worth it! Even if they do profess to love you half of the wankers dont know what the word means!!! 55466[/snapback] generalisation ....

eeerrr. Indeed. Pot. Kettle. Black, spring to mind.

Go on then Omar, I'm bored. Who do you think I've been on here as today ?

There wasn't a league back then you daft old bugger! And do you always answer a question by asking another one? 55462[/snapback] Omar thinks he's an experienced football man again 55497[/snapback] it just shows that you know fook all, mate. 55503[/snapback] I'm lost for words, you're a genius 55506[/snapback] i thought your last two posts were quite good too! suprised there wasn't any childish insults thrown in! 55510[/snapback] f**kin hell ... you've outwitted me again

There wasn't a league back then you daft old bugger! And do you always answer a question by asking another one? 55462[/snapback] Omar thinks he's an experienced football man again 55497[/snapback] it just shows that you know fook all, mate. 55503[/snapback] I'm lost for words, you're a genius

Was it something like the British Army team? 55499[/snapback] no more idea as who won the Peruvian in 1980 mate, just thought Omar would think it was relevant to something ..

There wasn't a league back then you daft old bugger! And do you always answer a question by asking another one? 55462[/snapback] Omar thinks he's an experienced football man again

What the fuck are you on about? Look at that shite, you look sound like a Jackanory presenter! Seriously though, why throw all that shite at someone instead of just talking about it. I know you think you're opinion is right, otherwise it wouldn't be your opinion. You're certainly a lot surer of yours than I am of mine. I'd quite like to skip the insults and just stick to debating the issue, but if you say you know what you think and that's that, fair enough, but then why do you ever bother with these discussions? Maybe I'm thick but no, I don't know who you mean by us or them. I think 'us' are British citizens. But as has been mentioned in this thread a French national must not only be born there but also have French parents. Would the same definition be required for Britishness. I'm registered to vote in your generals but a few of "my kind" have commited terrorist atrocities in Britain. I've talked to enough British people who thought I was British being from the Republic of Ireland. Am I British, am I the enemy to you? I don't know, that's why I asked. I'd also like to know, what kinf of world are we bringing up our kids in once we deport all the shite out and keep all the decent folk? If I get where you coming from maybe we can have a decent chat about it and one or other of us might change our opinion. 55454[/snapback] I did talk about it, you were the one who started making issues. I had a feeling you would take the bit about "lecturer" etc to heart...but no they weren't aimed at you in particular, it's just that I find these are the types, along with do gooders and bleeding hearts, who tend to not understand what this country would be like if we didn't have the security services, but instead bleat about loss of freedom, and human rights for bombers and other such scum. Why do you think that someone made welcome in a country, should bomb it ? Why don't you answer that ? I answered your question. And Robs. You may think you are making a political point of saying people who do this should be treated in the same way as people born there and are citizens of that country, [which is why you asked me to define "us"] but I'm not making a political point at all, I would if I wanted to, but I'm only saying I think the French are absolutely right to throw them out, where they end up is now their own problem. Those who think it won't happen here...well take a look, why won't it ? The only problem, is that they may well end up here, thanks to the bleeding heart brigade and their like, as we will put up with this crap when nobody else does.

Who won the Egyptian title in 1921 ?

you might think, by the Cars. alreetlike...ref the thread about favourite 2nd teams..whatever it was, do you come from Elgin ?

Care to explain? 55431[/snapback] I think you know exactly what leazesmag was saying by his "us" and "our own" comments, seems like a few of us on here are waiting for leazes personal interpretation before jumping on him from their own personal moral high-ground. 55435[/snapback] I'll admit that I am of the opinion that some of Leazes' opinions of foreigners seem a little dubious to me. He seems like a pretty sensible poster so instead of making assumptions and jumping on him I'd like to really understand what he's on about. That's why I asked for a detailed opinion. How that makes me facetious I'm not sure. For the record I would regard my opinions as centrist but there are a few on here who lump anyone who would consider anything other than burning criminals and raping their wives "bloody pinko commies." I genuinely fail to understand whether people think that certain races have a genetic predisposition to crime and whether they think that deporting all out problems is going to do anything other than create a fucking scary world outside of their imagined utopia. 55438[/snapback] divvent bother getting over righteous matey, I don't care if you think I'm a sensible poster or not. I think my opinion is right. I'm happy to give it, I appreciate and understand the job the security services do in this country, and no do gooder or fancy dan lecturer or whatever is going to change my mind either.

Care to explain? 55431[/snapback] I think you know exactly what leazesmag was saying by his "us" and "our own" comments, seems like a few of us on here are waiting for leazes personal interpretation before jumping on him from their own personal moral high-ground. 55435[/snapback] it's fairly obvious isn't it ? I think i've already explained it, "they" have forfeited their opportunity to build a better life, so "they" are rightly being sent home, and "we" should do the same when it happens here. The trouble is, there are still some people deluded enough to believe it won't, and it won't be "our" fault, or rather "mine" .... but "theirs" Personal moral high ground alert on the way ......... Actually, after the London bombings, the Home Secretary said "they" would be sent home. And how many have been.. NONE. Invitation for more trouble alert as well .......

http://www.itv.com/news/index_554075.html showed real regret for it too, shame he had "done his time" eh

deemed not to be a danger to the public. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4428572.stm one for Rob.

WTF are you grilling me for then .........

We've been down this route before Violence, murder, rioting cannot be condoned and should be punished If there are problems (and there are in France) people should fix them through the system 55161[/snapback] they are. They are showing them the door. Quite correct response for not appreciating the new opportunity in life they had