NJS

I've tried. I'll leave this to someone else, your hatred really burns you. No doubt some meaningless babble about "increasing revenues" you picked up from elsewhere that you can't explain because you don't understand it.

what the fuck are you babbling about. Your posts are filled with irrational hatred and no common sense, they are almost as nonsensical as the idealistic political rubbish you spout. What has the Halls selling the club got to do with Mike Ashley dragging it downwards from "punching above its weight"? That became Mike Ashleys direction and his problem from the moment he bought it, and surely that means you should be more appreciative of the Halls ? Oh, of course, you resent anybody making money don't you. Ashley thought he was buying a viable business - the debt meant he wasn't which is what they knew and why they wanted to sell. I'm pretty sure Ashley's intention was to make a success of the purchase but he's now had to spend probably all the money he was willing to to get to here. That money has been increased by his own incompetence but to suggest he set out 4 years ago to run the club down is fucking even too stupid for you. Again you're happy for them to make that money at severe cost to the club we all support - says it all.

In reply to your edit, you've stated we can't compete with Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City - the realistic level now is the 6/7/8 division - if that's Everton, Bolton and maybe SAFC then yes, that's our level now. Again how can we change that in a way that doesn't involve fantasy?

So no answer as to why you think we should be competing on a consistent basis with the clubs I named? No answer as to why the Halls cut and ran?

Funny thing was as I said in reply to that Scouser, his first team at Liverpool when Beardsley and Barnes were at their best was a fantastic football team - I think it was only after he'd gone to Blackburn that he became a football murderer. His rejection of Beardsley was his biggest mistake in my view.

Teams with higher all time averages than NUFC: Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea. Teams who have won more trophies than NUFC: Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton and Villa Do you think 5 or 6 years of Sky based turnover figures when some clubs who would get bigger crowds if they weren't limited by their grounds somehow overwrites 130 years of Football history? What basis do you have for thinking we should be competing with those clubs? Some opinion that Liverpool's crowds are shite when they drop so somehow that makes us bigger? The ironic thing is you spout off about Sky era fans but its you who embodies the cliched Geordie who thinks we're a big club who win things. Under Shepherd we did nearly get relegated, did finish 13th a couple of times and 11th a couple of times - we followed what was a microcosm for the clubs whole history - overall failure with brief moments of glory - its the delusion that you think we now have the "right" to expect success as the norm that is truly laughable. The seeds of the decline we see now were sown by the Halls and Shepherd - the fact that you can't see that economic times were changing and have changed when the men involved did themselves and got out before the real shit hit the fan just shows you up for their sap.

Your view of Carroll's transfer was that we shouldn't have sold him to Liverpool because you see them as a team we should be competing against - surely the same applied to the sale of Hamman? The board/PLC thing is a load of shit - its obvious all major decisions such as managers and transfers were taken by Shepherd with reference to Douglas Hall - if you think Shepherd was contacting non-entities who only exist because for accounting reasons before sacking/appointing managers or deciding on who to sell players than you're even blinder than I thought. The club is going in exactly the same direction it was when Ashley bought it - even the Halls didn't believe your "re-grouping" nonsense and sold out to a scumbag as quickly as they could. Any answer on the Liverpool position thing? any answer on the champions league and european qualifications thing ? Easy - we used a great time for the club with a great pair of managers to punch above our weight for a few years. That CANNOT happen in the present economic climate without Man City like money which isn't going to happen so unless he sells or wakes up and decides to spend his money we might be extremely lucky and scrape a 7th in the the next few years and make it - exactly as would have happened under Shepherds latter tenure. Any clarification needed?

Your view of Carroll's transfer was that we shouldn't have sold him to Liverpool because you see them as a team we should be competing against - surely the same applied to the sale of Hamman? The board/PLC thing is a load of shit - its obvious all major decisions such as managers and transfers were taken by Shepherd with reference to Douglas Hall - if you think Shepherd was contacting non-entities who only exist because for accounting reasons before sacking/appointing managers or deciding on who to sell players than you're even blinder than I thought. The club is going in exactly the same direction it was when Ashley bought it - even the Halls didn't believe your "re-grouping" nonsense and sold out to a scumbag as quickly as they could. Any answer on the Liverpool position thing?

You rarely post on skunkers now because your relentless pro Shepherd/anti Ashley posts were so boring that everyone on there put you on ignore. Are you trying to achieve the same here? I never posted much on skunkers to start with. The relentless crap spouted on about "trophy signings" [hope you are happy with the quality of our current strikers instead] and how embarrassing it was to be one of the top clubs in the country, and how anybody but Fred would do better, bored the fuck out of me. I hope all the pricks who wanted all of that are happy. And I didn't mention Shepherd when you mentioned Hamman. I made a comment about Liverpool buying our best players and giving us their shite in exchange ? Do you not agree with that ? Did I mention Shepherd, it was nothing to do with Shepherd you halfwit. Why don't you do a bit of research into why Hamman was sold, in case you're so stupid and clueless you don't know ? Then when you have done that, examine your comment that Shepherd sold him when he never owned the club. Then when you have done that, look at the league positions we achieved and the champions League qualifications achieved after Hamman was sold before asking such a fucking stupid question.. Sadly, there are plenty of arseholes like you still around, on all the message boards including skunkers, and in real life. Make a sensible and correct statement if you want to debate anything with me, or don't bother. Hamman was sold because he took the huff with Gullit - though of course according to you we shouldn't have sold him to a so called rival when there isn't a player on the planet who wouldn't see Liverpool as a step up from Newcastle at any time in the past, now or in the future.. So why does Shepherd still refer to all the decisions like appointing managers and signing Owen etc in the first person? He was responsible for day to day decisions and even if he did get Hall junior involved that's no "excuse". Why don't you answer a question from Skunkers - why do you refer to Liverpool as a team we shouldn't be below when we only finished above them once in ten years when Shepherd was chairman?

I'm a bit surprised Stevie - I would have had you down for a royalist to go with your other patriotism stuff. They face a dilemma on the republic imo - if they want to keep it going another century they should try and fiddle skipping to the cretinous groom today - I honestly think the fig-eared cunt being king could be their downfall (hopefully). Today is a wonderful opportunity to vastly purge the gene pool by mining and/or machine gunning the crowds and a couple of bombs among the VIP area would do the world a power of good as well.

Said before his two-footed tackle on Dumas at Highbury which of course he only got a yellow for was the dirtiest tackle I've ever seen. Also deserves inclusion for getting Robert sent off with his deliberate quick free-kick - genuine attempt my fucking arse. On thread if you want to use the complimentary form of of the word from our point of view and the other form for the rest of the world then Shearer would be captain.

I think he'll act like a twat - too thick to do otherwise.

See I'd say aye great goal, but not as good as the Arsenal goal and no where near the to 20 goals I've seen in the flesh. In my case quite a few scored by Beardsley. Though McGhee's versus Bradford come instantly to mind as a goal that pissed all over last nights.

I thought my ongoing/never-ending quest for a new job had hit a new milestone today. I was out and about earlier and got a call from an agent about a role at Goldman Sachs. First time I've heard their name mentioned and I'd just assumed they did their recruitment directly via the Illuminati (or more likely by family/friends referral only). Anyway on getting home and reading the spec it turns out its a good fit for my skills apart from of course the key technology/system plastered in bold at the top and mentioned in the first sentence (Informatica) which I don't have - another Agent fail. Was looking forward to descending to the next circle of hell (or maybe even 2 levels at once).

Ye should be on Britain's Got Talent yee like. Anyone who wears them can get them in in 10 seconds. I've had mine since I was 17, best invention ever, still considering lazer treatment though. As soon as I had them in the first time, I thought; this is fucking great-I'm getting my eyes lasered. I'm getting a bit better at putting them in, I spent ages last week trying to pop one in though and the bastard kept sticking to my finger, then I think it went in inside-out. Tantrums ensued. I had lenses for a couple of years before I got lasered (and between ops) and remember once being that pissed I spent the train ride home (35 mins) trying to get a lens out that had actually popped out on the first attempt. bit of a sore eye the next day and I was also glad it was my left eye which I had disposables for - my right needed a "proper" one due to astigmatism.

"Beat" 2, "ran past" 3, danced around all 5. It was a really excellent goal but not quite worth the jizzfest - of course knowing that a player can't tackle you and using that to motor past him is great to watch but it's not quite as good as implied by "beat 5 men" - just saying.

IMO there's a difference between "beating" and "running past" - former 2, latter 5.

Undoubtedly - and it's not really an excuse to say we expect it from a Mourinho team - however I think as a contrast to the usual jizzfest over Barca I think its fair to point out they have a team full of cheating cunts as well.

You could say it's a two way street though - how does Alves or any of the rest of them expect respect? It's so fucking unmnanly. Not to get all macho or owt (cos I'm not), but how the fuck can a bloke carry on like that. Villa being the latest - I'd love to see a modern day Collina just kick them and say "just fucking get up"

You could say it's a two way street though - how does Alves or any of the rest of them expect respect?

Alves is another player I'd love to see have his leg broken.

El Classico? - El Cheatico more like it. Would love to see someone actually get chinned as I'm sure actual physical contact would be so much of a shock they'd drop down dead.

Depends what you mean by cheap. Just say for the sake of argument he's on 80k at Villa (not a stretch given he came reluctantly from Man City) and they were paying half his wages for the loan (or it was pay as you go as suggested) - I can't see us starting to pay those kinds of wages again even for frees.

Well I call your Mother an idiot for calling a kid Charlotte-Letitia.

I just think he would have more to say for himself on here if he had, I sense things about people. I've told him what to do i.e. click the countries and he lists them. He's an annoying cunt. I always got the impression he wasn't lying about his travels like.