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As I said before we (investment bank) would have made a profit last year but for LB and Iceland - I see no reason why we won't make a profit this year. Lehmann Brothers? Yeah it cost the bank as a whole (I work for the London branch) about 1bn euros - if the US government had bailed them out as they did with AIG etc we'd have been okay.

As I said before we (investment bank) would have made a profit last year but for LB and Iceland - I see no reason why we won't make a profit this year.

Its a strange one - obviously people are hurting though job losses which is real but I still feel it's largely a confidence issue in terms of banks and stock markets. If the toxic assets are covered by the government then the banks really have no excuse but to lend (to credible people/business).

Brendan Foster? Kenny Burns. Frank Worthington. Carlton Palmer.

The ones that rebel yes (Thank the lord) - those that don't do follow the prescribed life course in general.

I'm positive a lot of women in their twenties don't give a moments thought to getting a screening....heck the government won't fund screenings if you're under 25. I know there's a debate over the validity of a test up to that point, but I imagine a lot more 25's and over have put in for one now. If i felt a bump in my nads I'd go to the doctor, if i couldn't feel my nads, I doubt I'd be pro-active about it, I'd wait until I felt something was wrong. I know people getting sponsorship for Cancer Research too that weren't planning to until they watched Jade's story on Living. All credit to her and them for that. Fair enough - I just thought that girls would be made aware in schools these days - especially with the HPV vaccine. Of course I'd guess that those from strict religious background of all types might miss out on info but I accept that culturally they'd be at less of a risk given generally less active sex lives.

This stuff about her raising awareness about screening is getting to me - are there really women who don't know about it? This is going to sound horrible but what the hell - if such ignorance does exist should we be as sympathetic as "normal" if a case is missed throught said ignorance?

On individual policies yes but it's fair comment to accuse the Tories for a sea change in social attitudes - of course Labour should be called on not fixing them but that doesn't negate the point. I'd say its paralleled by some of our problems being over-expectation to some degree which is a legacy of Keegan's first spell as manager.

Both parasites served up for the cretinous millions by a complicit media.

He tried to do what Hall did but wasn't as rich or as big a cunt - he ended up taking a seat on the board (for no gain) iirc.

This is why we'll go down in my view - they can try like this against Man U and Arsenal but will play like they did at Hull when we play Stoke etc. No way Martins should take pens either - he lives by instinct and that has no place when it come to pens imo.

Expanding on what Alex said in reply I'd say the cherry picking of biblical morality which is based on the general morality of the society I referred to above is what makes religion and/or God unneccesary. I fully accept that some people exist that are so convinced by religion that they reject this idea entirely and go as far as to say that without God they'd murder etc but I think they are the very people who should be "rescued". I think if more people were taught how man is a social animal and how all societies have had the same general morality without rference to their particular brand then we'd have more chance of the decent society you and I both want. Forgiveness is a very human emotion and of course I think its good - I just think reconciliation with other humans is infinitely more important that with a God.

You can't beat the timing of being adopted by the Roman empire who ruled the most infuential part of the world at the time - its all accidents of history. I suppose you could argue that it was a cunning plan on God's part but for other accidents affecting other parts of the world.

Just for a laugh I'd love to see the guidelines used for Football fans to be applied to the public at large including Muslims - I think we'd actually see a revolution

The crusades were all about religion - Europe didn't care what the Muslims were doing (see invasion of Spain) until they invaded the "Holy land" - it then became a christian duty based on Papal edict to save it from infidels. Again I'd question "echoed by the bible" - certainy the OT is an awful document morally and while JC did preach some good stuff he also preached a lot of nastiness - particulary the bits about abandoning family to follow him and how the only way to heaven was through him - probably the most offensive notion to me (ie that being good is useless without worship). I'd also point out the correlation between intensity of faith and crime rates based on states in the US - it actually has more to do with poverty but it does show that religion doesn't stop people from being sinful.

After the debacle last time around, I've just decided to get a ticket off a tout for Wembley (as I did for Twickenham) - they may be scum but the only difference between them and Ticketmaster is the word "official".

It depends - the nostalgia for eras like the 50s forget the homophobia, racism and sexual hypocrisy which were rife - in those areas I think today's society is a lot more moral. You could also argue for the increase in volunteer work and other charitable giving as modern life gives more free time/disposable income. I've also seen figures that show more murders and violent crimes a hundred years ago than now - maybe the statistic collection is suspect but the idea of some utopia at some point in the past is an exaggeration.

Particular strain of magic mushrooms according to something I saw.

I find the usual "God will provide" argument which I've read in the past particulary odious when it comes to over-population but I didn't realise there was an appetite for the rapture among that many catholics. As an aside I've been browsing the documentary channels on Sky lately and always seem to stray too far into 580+ (God territory) where they become very rapture focused and I find myself drawn in by the depths of insanity on view. Apparently the credit crunch is another sign from Revelation.

Point me to the persentage of the bible which advocates anything decent which isn't contradicted totally elsewhere Traditional "christian" values are just the condensation of the pervading morality of any civilised society imo.

Just had a call off the club - took my CC details for the discount - no discussion/sell and I still haven't had a letter off the Casino Crook. I presume the lack of resistence was because I was pro-active in cancelling.

A general rule of thumb (ooh err) when it comes to the Abrahamic religions is that women don't matter in the scheme of things. Actually I should add that they actually believed that the "seed" contained everything needed and a women was only an incubator - they didn't realise there were ova.

To an extent - I'd say "seen a few, seen them all" - I've been watching quite a few episodes of House recently and have come to the same conclusion on that. I still think Miami is worth watching occasionally on the basis of Emily Proctor.

It is - theres a document they produce which I read once which explains why they oppose "artificial" contraception which displays a lack of understanding of biology and evolution so profound it makes believing in geocentricity look eminently sensible. As for his comments I'm with the "well he would say that" camp and I've come to relish any such idiocy - it can only harm their cause.

They probably think 9 0-0s will be okay.