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Gonzalez is out for 4 months according to he chron - was carrying the injury when signed - what a system eh?

Christianity came to prominence as a uniting force for the Roman Empire so no different to Islam really.

Undoubtedly but WWI was caused by empires squaring up to each other - I see both nationalism and religion (though more in the past) as part of the whole tribal tendency of humanity and both equally as "wrong". I know you could argue its natural but my hope is that by this stage in our develonment the need to be defined so strongly in one "gang" or another would be lessened. One notion about Islam I admire at a basic level is the notion of a brotherhood which transcends borders - unfortunately based on one religion rather than a "simple" notion of humanity.

I think the word you're looking for is cunt I thought that was the American translation - much like their fanny/arse confusion.

Allen - that Anschutz funds the Discovery Institute which marks him down as a fuckwit for me. That Hunt looks too much like the "all American guy" and the last one sounds too much like a "dude".

Yeah but simple explanations like that ignore the use of the religion on the ground to teach people from a very young age who and what to believe. It's a lot easier to start young kids off with you're a catholic/they're prods rather than teach the politics of forced migrations and rotten british landlords (which comes later). NI is/was still seen by Nationalists as part of a catholic Ireland and they yearn for the catholics in the north to be under catholic/Irish rule - I think its that view rather than the land per se that is what matters. Similarly the loyalists have always made a big thing about the freedom to practice their religion which they would view as threatened by a United Ireland. My view now is that with borders meaning less and less in a modern Europe, its the clinging on to the religion that drags it on. The first (painful) step for me would be to abolish sectarian schools.

Israel/Palestine India/Pakistan Yugoslavia Sri Lanka NI All could be described as ethnic/nationalist as well but elements of religion poison and underpin them.

Stalin is a better example for the "all atheists are immoral, genocidal bastards" argument though.

It's actually an Irish lullaby, go and read the lyrics for you don't know what you're talking about. no it's not it's a folk song about the famine and a man who stole food to feed his family. a lullaby about famine, wtf do you sing to your kids... Maybe he frightens them with a prison ship to Botany Bay as well.

It's actually an Irish lullaby, go and read the lyrics for you don't know what you're talking about. So when the bloke gets transported for stealing food during the famine who do you think did the transporting? A hell of a lot of Irish folk songs are love songs with an added twist of Anti-Brit.

Went for a root canal this morning - I took a day off because I've had four of these previously and two were awful experiences (one is why I hate Everton due to association with having it the day before the cup quarter final). Anyway the dentist got stuck in to it and then said: "Ah, the nerve's completely dead and has been for some time so this will be completely painless" Heaven - after yesterday I was expecting the worst.

Anyone else see the irony in the lad's stance when his user name is from an Irish rebel song?

I think you should include Jonas. Didn't have a great match but he's the best player at the club imo. Probably - post match anger effect - he did piss me off today by playing far too many passes that an eight year old could have cut-out though. Enrique was worse like. Could barely pass to a team mate all match. Probably top of my death wish list today - though Martins was pushing him all the way.

I think you should include Jonas. Didn't have a great match but he's the best player at the club imo. Probably - post match anger effect - he did piss me off today by playing far too many passes that an eight year old could have cut-out though.

Apart from Given, Beye, Collocini and Barton I wouldn't life an eyebrow to selling any and all of the rest (though I'd keep what passes for a fit Viduka). I'd head for the local leagues and sign players who pass to team mates.

Did the prologue for 'O' level - anyone who claims its literature should be fucking shot - emperor's new clothes syndrome at its best.

Just got in - what a shit result and mainly a shit performance. 1-1 should only have been one winner - second stupid goal given away put paid to that. I don't think I'm going to bother with Chelsea now - I'm not paying £48 to watch a hammering meted out to people getting paid thousands a week who can't control and pass a ball ten yards to a team mate or hit a shot anywhere near the target from anything like 18 yards - we have several in our team and it's absolutely fucking disgraceful - I would honestly refuse to pay the cunts if I was in charge.

People trot out the "prove himself elsewhere" line whenever Shearer is mentioned and it makes sense but can anyone really see him as manager of Hartlepool or somewhere? I'm not averse to the prospect - I think he has character and is driven to win - much like Keane. New owners will want to enthuse the fans - It might make more football sense to get Deschamps or whoever in but from a sort of business sense (ie pleasing the customers) it would work. The alternative would be Keegan but I honestly think theres too much baggage associated with bringing him back now.

Never been tempted to read "classic" literature - I was probably put off by doing Dickens for 'O' level. I think the oldest book I've read is Catch 22 and possibly some old Sci-fi short stories by people like Dick and Lovecraft. I'm also going to sound like a philistine here but I find black & white films very hard to watch and/or rate - I think the Godfather is probably the oldest film I rate.

Tried to watch Fellowship of the rings twice - fell asleep both times, haven't retried.

Fop?

The bit about constant referrals to the middle class echoes British politics - they know thats where elections are won and any talk of helping the poor angers that demographic. I'm sure Fop will love the bit about him not visiting Mosques.

I've got the one published in 1969, which covers up to 1969. A photo of McNamee and David Webb in on the cover. Number 2 has Alan Foggon on the front, and covers basically the years 1969 and 1970. These are both by John Gibson I've noticed he's wrote a 3rd book called the Newcastle United story, and was published in 1985. I would like to know if it is number 3, or just an extension of the first book because basically if thats all it is I wouldn't bother getting it. [i found a review which indicates it is from the beginning of the clubs existence ?] I have one that sounds like the first cover but certainly goes later than 69 - actually 85 sounds about riight so it sounds like an update. It's not to hand at home so I'd have to have a good look for it which would be a weekend job.

Yes but the comments are full of fuckwits giving credit to their imaginary friend.

As an afterthought I read a piece last night about McCain's Joe the plumber. It turns out he wasn't a licensed plumber, had an order against his house for unpaid taxes and if he bought his partner out of his business he'd still be better off under Obama than under McCain. I'd also point out that with the euphoria of the victory people seem to be thinking that all bigotry in the US has magically disappeared overnight. They seem to not have noticed the California gay marriage referendum result (thanks to bigoted black voters) and the fact that it will still be decades before someone non-religious can stand for any public office with any chance of winning.