Quentin Tarantino Overated?

[Park Life 71]

JULY 8, 2008

Tarantino Eyes Tera Patrick for "Pussycat" Remake

From Variety, hapa porn queen-with-a-microbiology-degree Tera Patrick may be the star of Quentin Tarantino's remake of cult B-movie "Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!" about a trio of strippers on a motorcycle-riding rampage. The role may be the official transition to mainstream entertainment for Patrick, who is half-Thai and half-white. Of her adult film career she says, "I am the first to admit I can't do this forever! I'd love to cross over and do more 'regular movies.'"

Edited April 24, 2009 by Park Life

[Park Life 71]

Scene-Stealing, Tarantino-Style

 

1. The Mexican standoff scene in Reservoir Dogs matches, nearly frame for frame, the end of Ringo Lam's 1987 Hong Kong action flick City on Fire. One difference: Tarantino's version is awash in blood.

[Park Life 71]

. Kill Bill owes many debts, but its heaviest is to the 1973 Japanese revenge drama Lady Snowblood, about a female samurai who hunts down her family's killers. Tarantino even copied this point-of-view shot of the bad guys.

[Park Life 71]

Literally could do this all day and not run out of his dimwitted plagiarism.

[Park Life 71]

The most criminally overrated film maker alive. Gets away with just copying other films scene for scene nearly all the time.

 

He uses a smorgasbord of other peoples images and ideas. I don't think he's ever copied any individual scene.

 

 

Yes, most of his work is cheesy overstylised shit.

 

Are you sure 80-90% of whole scenes/ideas haven't been transplanted?

Can you name any specific examples though Parky?

 

Just a few basic examples there's 1000's out there...

Can't view it at work mate.

 

 

Have a look laters.

[Happy Face 29]

Literally could do this all day and not run out of his dimwitted plagiarism.

 

I'll say it again.

 

City on Fire.

Faster Pussycat...

Lady Snowblood

Vanishing point

Shogun Assassin

Samurai Fiction

Sukeban Deka

Black Lizard

 

They're all woeful films.

 

Absolute dogshit it's a struggle to sit through.

[Park Life 71]

Literally could do this all day and not run out of his dimwitted plagiarism.

 

I'll say it again.

 

City on Fire.

Faster Pussycat...

Lady Snowblood

Vanishing point

Shogun Assassin

Samurai Fiction

Sukeban Deka

Black Lizard

 

They're all woeful films.

 

Absolute dogshit it's a struggle to sit through.

 

Pretty much my view of Tarantino.

[Park Life 71]

I found Kill Bill with its eternally over-crafted camera set ups and the multitude of overused television commercial style editing / mise en scene utterly tedious once you take the fit blonde out. There are huge chunks of Dogs which take away the slow motion and the blood which are just boring and totally without filmic power or resonance. A lot of dressed up cack essentially. Of course the visual references he uses ARE entertaining along with the Tarantinoesque halo of charismatic actors. Brad Pitt in the latest one I see.

[Douggy B 0]

In my opinion he is, what about you?

 

No, you fool.

 

I miss Torres' witty banter

[Happy Face 29]

Literally could do this all day and not run out of his dimwitted plagiarism.

 

I'll say it again.

 

City on Fire.

Faster Pussycat...

Lady Snowblood

Vanishing point

Shogun Assassin

Samurai Fiction

Sukeban Deka

Black Lizard

 

They're all woeful films.

 

Absolute dogshit it's a struggle to sit through.

 

Pretty much my view of Tarantino.

 

 

It's a lazy criticism though.

 

When he uses the line "You shoot me in a dream, you better wake up and apologise." people complain he stole it from Spike Lee who's script for Do The Right Thing includes the line "If Mike Tyson beats my ass in a dream, he better wake up in apologize".

 

No-one complains that Spike lee is a hack without a bone of originality just because it was Muhammad Ali he "stole" the line from - "If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize".

 

Nor does it account for the fact that his characters have seen the films they reference 90% of the time. Mr White knows he's using someone else's line. We all do it every day, why shoulkd film characters be any different?

 

Jules in Pulp Fiction hasn't got a "bad motherfucker" wallet because Tarantino wants to steal the joke, he's got it because he (the character) loves Shaft. Characters are defined by their tastes. Jules likes Shaft, Vincent likes to come across as a well read, educated, world traveller with no time for television, but gives the game away later by talking about how he watches the TV show COPS.

 

When Marcellus paraphrases "They're gonna strip you naked and go to work on you with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch." it's because he liked the line in one of his favourite movies - Charley Varrick.

[Park Life 71]

Literally could do this all day and not run out of his dimwitted plagiarism.

 

I'll say it again.

 

City on Fire.

Faster Pussycat...

Lady Snowblood

Vanishing point

Shogun Assassin

Samurai Fiction

Sukeban Deka

Black Lizard

 

They're all woeful films.

 

Absolute dogshit it's a struggle to sit through.

 

Pretty much my view of Tarantino.

 

 

It's a lazy criticism though.

 

When he uses the line "You shoot me in a dream, you better wake up and apologise." people complain he stole it from Spike Lee who's script for Do The Right Thing includes the line "If Mike Tyson beats my ass in a dream, he better wake up in apologize".

 

No-one complains that Spike lee is a hack without a bone of originality just because it was Muhammad Ali he "stole" the line from - "If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize".

 

Nor does it account for the fact that his characters have seen the films they reference 90% of the time. Mr White knows he's using someone else's line. We all do it every day, why shoulkd film characters be any different?

 

Jules in Pulp Fiction hasn't got a "bad motherfucker" wallet because Tarantino wants to steal the joke, he's got it because he (the character) loves Shaft. Characters are defined by their tastes. Jules likes Shaft, Vincent likes to come across as a well read, educated, world traveller with no time for television, but gives the game away later by talking about how he watches the TV show COPS.

 

When Marcellus paraphrases "They're gonna strip you naked and go to work on you with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch." it's because he liked the line in one of his favourite movies - Charley Varrick.

 

All sounds like kids at film school.

[Happy Face 29]

I found Kill Bill with its eternally over-crafted camera set ups and the multitude of overused television commercial style editing / mise en scene utterly tedious once you take the fit blonde out. There are huge chunks of Dogs which take away the slow motion and the blood which are just boring and totally without filmic power or resonance. A lot of dressed up cack essentially. Of course the visual references he uses ARE entertaining along with the Tarantinoesque halo of charismatic actors. Brad Pitt in the latest one I see.

 

Far more valid criticism.

[Park Life 71]

I found Kill Bill with its eternally over-crafted camera set ups and the multitude of overused television commercial style editing / mise en scene utterly tedious once you take the fit blonde out. There are huge chunks of Dogs which take away the slow motion and the blood which are just boring and totally without filmic power or resonance. A lot of dressed up cack essentially. Of course the visual references he uses ARE entertaining along with the Tarantinoesque halo of charismatic actors. Brad Pitt in the latest one I see.

 

Far more valid criticism.

[Happy Face 29]

I found Kill Bill with its eternally over-crafted camera set ups and the multitude of overused television commercial style editing / mise en scene utterly tedious once you take the fit blonde out. There are huge chunks of Dogs which take away the slow motion and the blood which are just boring and totally without filmic power or resonance. A lot of dressed up cack essentially. Of course the visual references he uses ARE entertaining along with the Tarantinoesque halo of charismatic actors. Brad Pitt in the latest one I see.

 

Far more valid criticism.

 

Not that I agree mind

 

Here's all the ammo you need by the way...

 

Reservoir Dogs

Pulp Fiction

Jackie Brown

Kill Bill

Death Proof

 

To get all the references he does into Pulp Fiction is a talent itself.

Edited April 24, 2009 by Happy Face

[Park Life 71]

I found Kill Bill with its eternally over-crafted camera set ups and the multitude of overused television commercial style editing / mise en scene utterly tedious once you take the fit blonde out. There are huge chunks of Dogs which take away the slow motion and the blood which are just boring and totally without filmic power or resonance. A lot of dressed up cack essentially. Of course the visual references he uses ARE entertaining along with the Tarantinoesque halo of charismatic actors. Brad Pitt in the latest one I see.

 

Far more valid criticism.

 

Not that I agree mind

 

Here's all the ammo you need by the way...

 

Reservoir Dogs

Pulp Fiction

Jackie Brown

Kill Bill

Death Proof

 

To get all the references he does into Pulp Fiction is a talent itself.

 

 

Don't get me wrong. He's deffo someone I'd love to have a few beers with and talk films.

[Cid_MCDP 0]

The correct answer is no based on the fact that every film reviewer knows for better or for worse, he'll make headlines for saying Tarantino is shit. The only people who like Tarantino movies are normal people (whose opinions obviously don't matter). Therefore, since Tarantino is not rated by anyone in the industry, it is an impossibility for him to be over rated.

 

FWIW, I loved Kill Bill 2 and Pulp Fiction. Resevior Dogs was another significant movie because it was a successful indie movie that came out at a time when neither gritty crime drama nor indie movies were en vogue in any sense.

 

See also why Ramones and Nirvana are important bands compared to context of music trends at the time.

Edited April 24, 2009 by Cid_MCDP

[Park Life 71]

The correct answer is no based on the fact that every film reviewer knows for better or for worse, he'll make headlines for saying Tarantino is shit. The only people who like Tarantino movies are normal people (whose opinions obviously don't matter). Therefore, since Tarantino is not rated by anyone in the industry, it is an impossibility for him to be over rated.

 

FWIW, I loved Kill Bill 2 and Pulp Fiction. Resevior Dogs was another significant movie because it was a successful indie movie that came out at a time when neither gritty crime drama nor indie movies were en vogue in any sense.

 

See also why Ramones and Nirvana are important bands compared to context of music trends at the time.

 

What do you like about him?

[Cid_MCDP 0]

The correct answer is no based on the fact that every film reviewer knows for better or for worse, he'll make headlines for saying Tarantino is shit. The only people who like Tarantino movies are normal people (whose opinions obviously don't matter). Therefore, since Tarantino is not rated by anyone in the industry, it is an impossibility for him to be over rated.

 

FWIW, I loved Kill Bill 2 and Pulp Fiction. Resevior Dogs was another significant movie because it was a successful indie movie that came out at a time when neither gritty crime drama nor indie movies were en vogue in any sense.

 

See also why Ramones and Nirvana are important bands compared to context of music trends at the time.

 

What do you like about him?

 

Who Tarantino? His movies mostly.

[Happy Face 29]

The reviews are in for Inglorious Basterds....

 

"a violent fairy tale in which the history of World War II is wildly re-imagined"

 

"Surprising, nutty, windy, audacious. The picture is a completely distinctive piece of American pop art with a strong Euro flavour."

 

"It was hard to miss Tarantino's skilled embrace of the elements that make theatrical moviegoing just plain great: scenes filled with dramatic tension, performances with depth and humor, rich and witty scoring choices, multi-lingual dialogue that Tarantino still stamps as his own, and knowing nods at cinematic history and the power of the medium he loves so well... As Brad Pitt says in the very last frame of the film, looking straight into the camera after a gruesome, signature task: 'This might be my masterpiece.'"

 

"Tarantino remains the king of trashy cinema."

 

"Vintage Tarantino to be sure"

 

"This unashamed slice of Second World War hokum finds Quentin Tarantino in mischievous form as he takes on the Second World War with the driving force of a roller coaster ride."

 

"Quentin Tarantino has made a glorious, silly, blood-spattered return."

Edited May 20, 2009 by Happy Face

[Happy Face 29]

"Quentin Tarantino finds a climax unique in the history of war movies. QT is sometimes criticized for including too many references (some say whole scenes) from other movies in his own work. There are legends about his days as a video store clerk, memorizing B movies from the $1.99 bin. But the borrowed, or repurposed, or inspired, or quoted movie material in his films is there not because he lacks imagination but because he has too much. He loves movies with a fervor that inspires him to absorb us not only in his films, but in the films he loves. His arms are wide and gathers us in."

 

-Roger Ebert

[Billy Castell 0]

I like Resivoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, but Kill Bill was wank. Looked nice, good soundtrack, but its all too pedantic, overblown and waffly. For example the bit with Mr. Madsen being bitten by the snake and the one eyed blonde bird. She should get on with it all, and not just sit down and bang on about Black Mamba poison. Or the end when she finally reaches Bill. Stop having a chat about Sodium Pentoate and have an almighty punch up or something. Every scene was dragged out and filled to the brim with boring monologues.

[Park Life 71]

I'm at the point now where I dismiss all his work.

[Asprilla 96]

Don't get me wrong. He's deffo someone I'd love to have a few beers with and talk films.

You numpty.

 

What the hell do you think HE'D get out of that conversation? You've sighed your oh so world weary disappointments of his stellar career, but what have you done yourself? People think critiquing a film is somehow like MAKING a film. They are in fact....different.

 

I can understand people not *liking* his movies, but to dismiss them as if he hasn't been THE SINGLE MOST INFLUENTIAL DIRECTOR of the last 15 years is a little rich.

 

 

 

 

I'm at the point now where I dismiss all his work.

 

Please provide evidence of your superior output.

 

Thx.

[Park Life 71]

Don't get me wrong. He's deffo someone I'd love to have a few beers with and talk films.

You numpty.

 

What the hell do you think HE'D get out of that conversation? You've sighed your oh so world weary disappointments of his stellar career, but what have you done yourself? People think critiquing a film is somehow like MAKING a film. They are in fact....different.

 

I can understand people not *liking* his movies, but to dismiss them as if he hasn't been THE SINGLE MOST INFLUENTIAL DIRECTOR of the last 15 years is a little rich.

 

 

 

 

I'm at the point now where I dismiss all his work.

 

Please provide evidence of your superior output.

 

Thx.

 

Not sure what your point is?

 

Nobody allowed to banter about anything unless they prove they are superior in various things??

 

Again, I dismiss all his work.

 

What are you going to do about it fucknuts?

[Asprilla 96]

Don't get me wrong. He's deffo someone I'd love to have a few beers with and talk films.

You numpty.

 

What the hell do you think HE'D get out of that conversation? You've sighed your oh so world weary disappointments of his stellar career, but what have you done yourself? People think critiquing a film is somehow like MAKING a film. They are in fact....different.

 

I can understand people not *liking* his movies, but to dismiss them as if he hasn't been THE SINGLE MOST INFLUENTIAL DIRECTOR of the last 15 years is a little rich.

 

 

 

 

I'm at the point now where I dismiss all his work.

 

Please provide evidence of your superior output.

 

Thx.

 

Not sure what your point is?

 

Nobody allowed to banter about anything unless they prove they are superior in various things??

 

Again, I dismiss all his work.

 

What are you going to do about it fucknuts?

 

Talking like he's such a DISAPPOINTMENT! I mean really. It's like me saying John Lennon was over rated.