Kid Dynamite 6961 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Maybe not but interesting that they are trying it out up here. Im off to see Whickham today as my sisters lad plays for them and apparently they have the sky team at the game today doing a report on the whole initiative A revolutionary “zero tolerance” approach to offensive language by players and team officials is to be introduced into the Arngrove Northern League. The season-long experiment, which initially will apply only to the ANL second division, has been sanctioned by the FA and will be closely monitored both in the North-East and throughout football. It will initially operate in season 2008-09. The pilot scheme, entirely within the existing laws of the game, will mean that players using “gratuitous” foul language will be shown an immediate red card. Dugout personnel will be sent to the stand, or out of the ground, and reported in the same way. “I hope it will be a first step towards reclaiming the game from the foul mouthed yobs who increasingly are driving good people – spectators, volunteers and match officials – away from football,” said ANL chairman Mike Amos. “It needs not just to work here but to offer evidence that it can work nationally, as it has in rugby. I’m delighted that the FA has agreed to back us – it could be a momentous day in the history of non-league football. “There’s still a long way to go and a lot to be done, but the tide of verbal sewage with which paying spectators are greeted could at last be about to turn.” FA referees’ committee chairman Ray Lewis, himself a former top referee, said that the experiment fitted well with the FA’s “Respect” scheme, which is being trailed in junior football. “The Northern League is right to be concerned at the unacceptable level of offensive language. We will watch very closely how this works out.” FA and ANL officials will now meet to discuss how the scheme can most effectively be implemented and monitored – but for the first time, a league will be allowed to advise match officials on the laws of the game. Amos admitted that the immediate responsibility for ensuring that the pilot scheme was successful would be with referees and their assistants. “In the long run it’s in the interests of us all, including referees, that football makes a stand before it’s too late.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 fuck me thats going to be fucking interesting to bastard see what the twats manage to do. I mean for fucks sake theres too much bastard swearing at fucking football these days......wankers. Seriously though, if followed properly we could see two blokes playing "fog man back" after 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Ridiculous. I'll be sent off in the first minute of our five a side games. Football is a passionate game, the odd swear word is always going to come out. Look at mild mannered Ray Wilkins, when he said "gimme that faaaaaaaaaaaking baww" live on TV against Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6961 Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 You think? I reckon 1 red card for the first 'fuck' of the day and the other players will be too shit scared to swear at the ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I think it may work but at first it could see some games turning into farce, like Stevie says its an emotional game, the likes of the ANL is full of plumbers, builders, lorry drivers and teachers. The sort of people who swear all day long so it will take a while to get people into the right frame of mind for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6451 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 You think? I reckon 1 red card for the first 'fuck' of the day and the other players will be too shit scared to swear at the ref Or even communicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Sounds like a good idea IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Sounds a shite idea IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9676 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 It's a good idea if a applied with common sense. Of course football is emotional and the odd swearing out of frustration is part of the game. I find the full foul mouth tirades of the likes of Smith, Rooney (who has cut it down a bit though) embarrassing and think no player should get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 (edited) Rubbish idea, if it did work alot of people would be concentrating on not swearing and it would take alot of the passion out the game. I think it's fine if they are going to start booking players who abuse the referee but sending off for swearing is a bit far. Edited February 16, 2008 by Barton7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6451 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Straight red for any abusive towards an official Referees should be respected by the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Great idea. I'd go further and have a Rugby type rule where only the captain can talk to the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Great idea. I'd go further and have a Rugby type rule where only the captain can talk to the referee. I don't think that would work as well. Especially for teams with the goalkeeper as the captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan 0 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I officiate on that league, will certainly be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I can tell you exactly what will happen. First few games of next season the refs will enforce it, resulting in games becoming a farce. Then refs will simply stop enforcing it, and by Christmas it'll be a distant memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC 0 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Good job it's only in the ANL 2nd. I went to watch Newcastle Benfield v Consett in the ANL 1st yesterday (Benfield won 2-1) and both sides were swearing their heads off. I've been to watch Benfield a few times this season, and seen some good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6961 Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 I think it may work but at first it could see some games turning into farce, like Stevie says its an emotional game, the likes of the ANL is full of plumbers, builders, lorry drivers and teachers. The sort of people who swear all day long so it will take a while to get people into the right frame of mind for it. Not really. Do you think the same people visit their granny and say 'Fuck off you daft cunt' ? Or if they are in a church for a christening? No, you curb your language when the occasion merits it, and talking to the ref should be one of those occasions. The argument, 'Im so used to swearing I cant stop' is ridiculous and a cop out for thick people with a small vocabulary. (not saying you are pud) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I think it may work but at first it could see some games turning into farce, like Stevie says its an emotional game, the likes of the ANL is full of plumbers, builders, lorry drivers and teachers. The sort of people who swear all day long so it will take a while to get people into the right frame of mind for it. Not really. Do you think the same people visit their granny and say 'Fuck off you daft cunt' ? I bet Stevie does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I think it may work but at first it could see some games turning into farce, like Stevie says its an emotional game, the likes of the ANL is full of plumbers, builders, lorry drivers and teachers. The sort of people who swear all day long so it will take a while to get people into the right frame of mind for it. Not really. Do you think the same people visit their granny and say 'Fuck off you daft cunt' ? I bet Stevie does. Especially if she's Scottish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I think it may work but at first it could see some games turning into farce, like Stevie says its an emotional game, the likes of the ANL is full of plumbers, builders, lorry drivers and teachers. The sort of people who swear all day long so it will take a while to get people into the right frame of mind for it. Not really. Do you think the same people visit their granny and say 'Fuck off you daft cunt' ? I bet Stevie does. Especially if she's Scottish Or scouse. Or from London Or...you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 It's a bit silly like. Imagine if you hit the bar from 30 yards or something mad or a decision blatantly goes against you Trying replacing ''Oh for fucks sake'' with ''I think weve been moddycoddled old chap,'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbySol 7 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 shite idea! but on the flip side... barton and smith would be banned too much to play.. so either option is good for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 If you swear at the ref, i.e. telling him to "fuck off" or whatever you should be sent off. If you say "for fuck's sake" when you miss or whatever it's a bit different. Strictly speaking though I thought any foul and abusive language was a red card offence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggy99 0 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 I think it may work but at first it could see some games turning into farce, like Stevie says its an emotional game, the likes of the ANL is full of plumbers, builders, lorry drivers and teachers. The sort of people who swear all day long so it will take a while to get people into the right frame of mind for it. Not really. Do you think the same people visit their granny and say 'Fuck off you daft cunt' ? Or if they are in a church for a christening? No, you curb your language when the occasion merits it, and talking to the ref should be one of those occasions. The argument, 'Im so used to swearing I cant stop' is ridiculous and a cop out for thick people with a small vocabulary. (not saying you are pud) i agree with you here like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) Its not hard to do really, as Alex said there's nothing wrong with people swearing to themselves in frustration at say missing a shot or something, but any abuse or swearing directed at officials should be a yellow followed by a red if it continues or you do it again. And any grown adults who claim they can't manage to not swear at a ref are as J69 said either thick or have an incredibly small vocabulary. Of course it would never work in the prem because the refs will never book the main culprits from the big 4 like Rooney who frequently scream abuse at them for a sustained length of time, because they're spineless bastards basically. Edited February 17, 2008 by Papa Lazaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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