Man U Hater 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 By no doubts a complete embarassment and a wanker to the club and made a shambles of running the club, but is he actually the villain people make him out to be ? Hardly prospering on the financial front under Freddie Sheperd and if he hadn't have bought the club would Newcastle have been fucked anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I'm surprised this topic hasn't been brought up sooner. Thank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It's all Keegan's fault you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 not dead then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shear class! 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I think the clucb is going in the same direction it would of whith Sheperd at the helm. I think the only differance is that it would of been a lot more fun getting there under Freddie, instead of tight ass Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 By no doubts a complete embarassment and a wanker to the club and made a shambles of running the club, but is he actually the villain people make him out to be ? Hardly prospering on the financial front under Freddie Sheperd and if he hadn't have bought the club would Newcastle have been fucked anyway It's not simply about the finances. Ashley has no idea how to run a football club and we're paying the price for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 To be honest I don't think the club would have fucked up under Freddie, as much as I didn't like the bloke Newcastle wasn't really any different from the majority of prem clubs as far as debt goes... though Freddie's choices in manager may have caused problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieMessiah 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Truth is we'll never know whether things would have been better under Freddie than they are now. It's all conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Row Z 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 The pinnacle of his stewardship was downing that pint at the Emirates. The world's best players must have been queuing up when they saw that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 "I gave you my word that as long as I remain owner, this club would continue to be run responsibly at all levels. I hope you will accept that I have stood by that pledge." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Onion 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It doesn't really matter whether it's incompetence, willful neglect or somewhere in between that's got us where we are. Just as, as far as the victim's concerned, murder or manslaughter amount to exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It would be a start to see him (and Llambias) accept the blame. Im waiting with baited breath to see exactly what pearls of wisdom they come out with when oops I mean if we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Onion 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Ashley sees himself as the victim in this. All that money wasted, poor me etc. He showed no real indication that he had any intention of changing his approach until it was getting really desperate. January's transfer window, and the period of inertia after Kinnear's heart wobble showed that. At a guess I'd say he probably blames Keegan for blowing the whole thing wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N17 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 He has good intentions.... like Daniel Levy. Levy has eventually done a good job at Spurs, maybe Ashley needs a good crack of the whip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 He has good intentions.... like Daniel Levy. Levy has eventually done a good job at Spurs, maybe Ashley needs a good crack of the whip One day he may actually make a move that looks like it has the clubs best interests at heart yes. Thing is Im nearly 40 and not sure I'll be around to see that day, more worryingly Im fairly confident that this football club wont be around either if he continues. And Im not sure he does have good intentions, Im interested to know what outsiders see as his good intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 He has good intentions.... like Daniel Levy. Levy has eventually done a good job at Spurs, maybe Ashley needs a good crack of the whip One day he may actually make a move that looks like it has the clubs best interests at heart yes. Thing is Im nearly 40 and not sure I'll be around to see that day, more worryingly Im fairly confident that this football club wont be around either if he continues. And Im not sure he does have good intentions, Im interested to know what outsiders see as his good intentions. He's been whimsical, reckless, huffy, foolhardy and that was just the first month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Shepherd had his faults too obviously and we were in decline in the last few years of his reign. The fact Ashley has accelerated that decline and made far worse decisions speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Shepherd had his faults too obviously and we were in decline in the last few years of his reign. The fact Ashley has accelerated that decline and made far worse decisions speaks volumes. In seriousness, its hard to imagine anyone taking over a large, well established, successful company with a loyal customer base and managing to fuck it up so comprehensively. Never mind a large (fat) successful billionaire businessman. Im not sure just how little Ashley comprehends the magnitude of the situation, not only for the football club but for his business empire as a whole should we go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 With that in mind, are Man U Hater and N17 wums or mongs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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