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http://www.nust.org.uk/the-ultimate-protes...we-can-campaign

 

On the basis of what is already there it looks well considered and professional.

 

I am sure there will be a lot of questions and clarification in the coming weeks.

 

Interestingly for me when Mike compulsory purchased my shares I had about £1500 worth in the club. This being the minimum investment anyway I will glady put that money back in and look forward to extending my interest further by having a voice.

 

Failing a genuine billionaire in the mold of Abramovich this appears to be the way ahead for us. It would be groundbreaking, it is bold and it would be an exciting new era not only for Newcastle United but for football also.

 

What I have to wonder is if we will be able to compete at the highest level? We may well be able to become the most sustainable club in the UK, but will we have the cash to compete? If UEFA ever exert some control over salaries then perhaps we will be well placed to benefit and perhaps we could become a hotbed for young talent once more with this approach. It would certainly be an interesting ride.

 

Anyway as previously stated I am fucking delighted there is at least an opportunity for us to make the change happen. Thanks to NUST for having the courage and ignoring the naysayers to get this off the ground.

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Cheers for that :lol:

 

As Trophy says and Ive posted elsewhere, the importance and scale of this cannot be underestimated. This is something huge in British football, if it happens then we will be the first club of any real size to be owned by the fans, in fact theres only one in the Football League, the mighty Exeter City.

 

Its going to be a long hard struggle, Im not going to be an Acca and say we'll piss getting the money because we wont. Im not going to do a Stevie and say that this is only open to Geordies because its not, its open to any Newcastle fan, anywhere. We are all in this together and we need to ensure that we all pull together.

 

Im, as much as anyone aware of the current financial position of many of you (myself included), I dont expect that everyone will run out and sell their first born to raise the minimum stake (which we've listened to early comments and reduced to £1500).

 

What I would hope every single member of this message board will do is read the stuff fully, if you've got questions then ask them on here, lets have this one thread though and not bring it into every other thread.

 

Read the information with an open mind, forget any preconceived views you have on the NUST/NUSC because I can assure you everything that is and has been done in the past has been with the best intentions. This is being done with one intention only, to bring the football club out of its current dire situation and start something incredible within our football club.

 

Read the info, ask your questions and if you are in a position to invest then take financial advice, there will be a city centre shop opening for people to walk in and discuss with Financial experts, use them or use one of your own.

 

If you're not in a position to invest yourself then you could look to set up a group of people, get ten of you with £150 each, 20 with £75 or even 1500 together at a quid apiece. What the hell, lets have a toontastic share!

 

You can even just donate any amount into the Trust who will then group those donations into tranches of £1500 and buy additional shares for the trust.

 

If you've read it, agreed it but cant donate or invest then please pass the word around your mates, sit in the pub and ensure everyone you know understands what its about.

 

Ive said it once, I'll say it again, this is the best chance that our football club has to go forward, another season under Ashley is unthinkable. The future under fans ownership could be the best thing to happen to this football club.

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Initially I was very sceptical, then I read a bit more and it began to sound quite doable. I still have one or two questions, hopefully they'll be answered today.

 

Unfortunately i'm not currently in a position to invest, I simply don't have the cash or a pension scheme, but if this is still going when I do I can't see why not. It seems risk free - if NUST don't buy the club then you get your money back.

 

I don't think the scheme will see us scale the heights that we were under Keegan and Bobby, but then I don't think even a cash rich billionaire could do that now - there's simply too much competition to get back into the top 4 at present. I do however think that this will give the club a stable platform to build from and it'll secure the future of the club when the Premier League bubble (presuming we get back there) begins to contract or even worse burst.

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Initially I was very sceptical, then I read a bit more and it began to sound quite doable. I still have one or two questions, hopefully they'll be answered today.

 

The best way to be frankly and any questions that dont get answered, bung them on here and I'll attempt to get a full answer for you.

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"Barcelona on the Tyne + 1 token Irish investor"

 

be interested to see how the pension option works

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Well good luck to NUST but cant see any credibility in this whatsoever.

 

Football clubs are rich mens toys that need millions pumping in regularly just to operate never mind challenge.

 

Football clubs dont make profit.

 

If it was such a good investment, why havent Proper business men already snapped it up and made a killing.

 

Heard it said before that it costs over a million to appoint independant accountants and carry out due dilligence, who pays there fees?

 

Why would people invest in a dodgy business that doesnt even have a recognised leader or team to run it.

 

Where does the president come from? who draws up a short list? will it be a member of NUST? Will it be a proper football administrator? Again, who picks the shortlist?

 

Would love to think this will work but unfortunatley I think most fans are just not that bothered.

 

Whats probably needed is one of these blue peter appeal thingys at the monument. :lol:

 

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This will probably get more interesting if the mysterious "serious investors" come out from the shadows.

 

One very good point is that there seems to be a six week feasibility time limit on this so it shouldnt drag on like an Ashley event.

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not like you to be so incredibly cynical CT.

 

Not unless it's some made up bollocks about being sold at the end of the week.

 

 

 

Top stuff Pud, I personally would rather see us stay in the lower leagues for the next decade if it meant that all growth and improvement were based on sustainability and long term thinking.

 

Seriously, football is about the people who go and watch, not some faceless twat with a portfolio of synergised sporting lifestyle brands.

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There will be blood. The big football crash is coming!

 

The path it's on is unsustainable outside the top four. As we are seeing the days of rich men digging deep to sustain also rans in the premier league is coming to an end.

 

A re-allignment is coming.

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Im considering. From my own perspective I need to consider it thoroughly. Of course there are questions to be answered, but to me, writing it off without full consideration is as bad as diving in head first without the same.

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There will be blood. The big football crash is coming!

 

The path it's on is unsustainable outside the top four. As we are seeing the days of rich men digging deep to sustain also rans in the premier league is coming to an end.

 

A re-allignment is coming.

Well, you've never been wrong before.

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There will be blood. The big football crash is coming!

 

The path it's on is unsustainable outside the top four. As we are seeing the days of rich men digging deep to sustain also rans in the premier league is coming to an end.

 

A re-allignment is coming.

Well, you've never been wrong before.

 

A clever point , shrewdly put, yet left naked and alone by the lack of a counter argument.

 

Pleased you agree.

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There will be blood. The big football crash is coming!

 

The path it's on is unsustainable outside the top four. As we are seeing the days of rich men digging deep to sustain also rans in the premier league is coming to an end.

 

A re-allignment is coming.

Well, you've never been wrong before.

 

A clever point , shrewdly put, yet left naked and alone by the lack of a counter argument.

 

Pleased you agree.

We're all happy then.

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I think my bro and dad are up for this, the latter is an IFA so can advise on the SIPPS stuff which I kna nout about. I do know that my pension has performed terribly since its inception and so I am none too worried about shoving a lump in here.

 

Personally, and I appreciate I may be alone in thinking this, I will risk what I am prepared to lose because this represents such a unique opportunity to change the way football is. It was the people's game. It can be played by anyone with a ball costing less than a tenner. It has been exploited beyond all recognition. If us fans do not manage to wrestle something back now then when? If not us then who?

 

If I have a couple of less quid a year when I am 70 because of this well I reckon I can cope. This is the kind of opportunity you would only regret not taking. If you took it and it went pear shaped, well, like I say – put in what you can afford to lose.

 

'Remember when we gathered enough momentum to buy our own club but it just didn't happen?'

 

'I heard about that, it was a couple of seasons before we were bought by McDonalds Corp wasn't it?'

 

'Aye, we used to have a Magpie as a mascot not that fucken clown y'kna'

 

'Really? Oh my dad would never talk about it like.'

 

etc.

 

If you view this as an amazing opportunity to create a genuine community club then invest. If you want to ensure profit on your pension or savings then look elsewhere. However all good portfolios have a diversity of stock and no other stock will give you as much interest and passion as this.

 

We need as many fans as possible who are prepared to not just say No to Mike but to take it further and pay to remove this contemptible fool, invest in a sustainable future and build a brave new world together.

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Is there going to be a payment portal which would allow payment by Mastercard / Visa?

 

I have zero cash but a penchant for racking up credit card debt so that would be perfect.

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So far I'd say I'm likely to invest, it may have to be on the credit card. Is there a way to invest in instalments even if this requires the initial 10% up front?

 

This has to made as easy as possible to get the maximum interest in it from supporters in my opinion.

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probably will invest myself,

I'm assuming by investing in the club i shall also get my "accepted by stevie" certificate that forgives my non-local status :lol:

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probably will invest myself,

I'm assuming by investing in the club i shall also get my "accepted by stevie" certificate that forgives my non-local status :lol:

You'll need to pay the £25000 premium for the Stevie certificate.

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Havent got a penny to me name, but i have a pension thats sat doing nowt from a previous job that i cant have for another 40 years or something.

 

Looking forward to hearing the details on how this method will work, once released

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Maybe the NUST should just run a weekly lottery with half the proceeds going into a 'buy Ashley out and also cover the running costs' fund.

 

It would take a very long time but it might appease some of the doom merchants like the above poster. :lol:

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Maybe the NUST should just run a weekly lottery with half the proceeds going into a 'buy Ashley out and also cover the running costs' fund.

 

It would take a very long time but it might appease some of the doom merchants like the above poster. :lol:

 

Probably not a bad idea to try some fundraising things like that in addition to the more important matter of getting people to invest larger ammounts directly. And to really rub it in, have people selling tickets for the lottery outside SJP on matchdays!

 

I certainly think this whole project is well worth a go, but i suspect it will need some clear eveidence that a large ammount of money has already been taken in to show its a genuine possibility to get alot more fans on board, and hopefully they can do this.

 

My other worry is that you could end up with all the money raised an offer put in and Ashley decides to be a complete cunt as usual and turn it down because its the fans and he wants to piss us off even more!

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