Guest alex Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK The right of British citizens to protest has been enshrined in law for generations. An estimated 2 million people took part in an anti war protest prior to the ionvasion of Iraq. The UK is not at war with ANY country. Which country do you want to send those 2 million protesters to? Protest yes. Kill "other" British people, definitely not. Do you see the difference. British people do not kill other British people nor heckle those who are defending their shores as British Armed Forces and security forces. If their sympathies lie elsewhere, they can fuck off to elsewhere. Don't compare protesting against our own troops with protesting against health cuts or employment marches. That is to both you and NJS. I think your attitude and defense of those heckling our forces is shameful. Tbf though LM you can defend their right to protest whilst abhorring what they are protesting about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that fact that you do not realise how dangerous this "few" are suggests you are a naive idiot. Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"? an unbelievable question/statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK The right of British citizens to protest has been enshrined in law for generations. An estimated 2 million people took part in an anti war protest prior to the ionvasion of Iraq. The UK is not at war with ANY country. Which country do you want to send those 2 million protesters to? Protest yes. Kill "other" British people, definitely not. Do you see the difference. British people do not kill other British people nor heckle those who are defending their shores as British Armed Forces and security forces. If their sympathies lie elsewhere, they can fuck off to elsewhere. Don't compare protesting against our own troops with protesting against health cuts or employment marches. That is to both you and NJS. I think your attitude and defense of those heckling our forces is shameful. Tbf though LM you can defend their right to protest whilst abhorring what they are protesting about. Not to mention also Alex, the way of life they crave would not allow them to protest ....... They can still fuck off and if it were up to me they would be turfed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK The right of British citizens to protest has been enshrined in law for generations. An estimated 2 million people took part in an anti war protest prior to the ionvasion of Iraq. The UK is not at war with ANY country. Which country do you want to send those 2 million protesters to? Protest yes. Kill "other" British people, definitely not. Do you see the difference. British people do not kill other British people nor heckle those who are defending their shores as British Armed Forces and security forces. If their sympathies lie elsewhere, they can fuck off to elsewhere. Don't compare protesting against our own troops with protesting against health cuts or employment marches. That is to both you and NJS. I think your attitude and defense of those heckling our forces is shameful. I think it's shameful too. But the army are big boys. I'm sure they can take it. I see the difference very clearly, though I'm not sure you do given your provclivity for lumping them together in one argument. I very specifically responded to your post about deporting protesters. You replied by moving on to those that kill people. One is against the law and deerves to be punished severely, the other isn't....and doesn't. Again, where will you deport the estimated 2 million protesters who marched in opposition to war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK The right of British citizens to protest has been enshrined in law for generations. An estimated 2 million people took part in an anti war protest prior to the ionvasion of Iraq. The UK is not at war with ANY country. Which country do you want to send those 2 million protesters to? Protest yes. Kill "other" British people, definitely not. Do you see the difference. British people do not kill other British people nor heckle those who are defending their shores as British Armed Forces and security forces. If their sympathies lie elsewhere, they can fuck off to elsewhere. Don't compare protesting against our own troops with protesting against health cuts or employment marches. That is to both you and NJS. I think your attitude and defense of those heckling our forces is shameful. Tbf though LM you can defend their right to protest whilst abhorring what they are protesting about. Not to mention also Alex, the way of life they crave would not allow them to protest ....... Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that fact that you do not realise how dangerous this "few" are suggests you are a naive idiot. Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"? an unbelievable question/statement. I s'pose it's worked in the Middle East Thick as whale spunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK The right of British citizens to protest has been enshrined in law for generations. An estimated 2 million people took part in an anti war protest prior to the ionvasion of Iraq. The UK is not at war with ANY country. Which country do you want to send those 2 million protesters to? Protest yes. Kill "other" British people, definitely not. Do you see the difference. British people do not kill other British people nor heckle those who are defending their shores as British Armed Forces and security forces. If their sympathies lie elsewhere, they can fuck off to elsewhere. Don't compare protesting against our own troops with protesting against health cuts or employment marches. That is to both you and NJS. I think your attitude and defense of those heckling our forces is shameful. Tbf though LM you can defend their right to protest whilst abhorring what they are protesting about. Not to mention also Alex, the way of life they crave would not allow them to protest ....... They can still fuck off and if it were up to me they would be turfed out. That's an irony probably lost on them though, isn't it? But that's why this country is a far better place to live than places like Saudi. They wouldn't want to live there because they'd probably get locked up for protesting about stuff like that. As for turfing them out - you can't because they're British. You wouldn't want other countries shipping their problems here either so you can't have it both ways. If they're not British, that's a different matter although just kicking them for protesting would be pretty draconian (another thing I wouldn't like to see in this country). Don't get me wrong, I think they're way off the mark with what they wanted to do. It was the wrong place and against the wrong people but that's just my opinion and not a reason to ban a protest. I think banning it because of the trouble it may have caused is different though. In any case (as I mentioned before) I think they only want to kick up a stir and weren't planning on going ahead with the protest (like an earlier one planned for London which the group cancelled). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Spot on imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Aye, persecute people and they end up causing all sorts of problems. Just look at Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Spot on imo. A bit fundamentalist like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that fact that you do not realise how dangerous this "few" are suggests you are a naive idiot. Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"? an unbelievable question/statement. I s'pose it's worked in the Middle East Thick as whale spunk. Ripped up your footballing "arguments" for arsepaper in the past dipshit, and I'm right in this subject too. You have no reply to my response to your comments about my life either have you. You know nothing of me, and that is how it is going to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Can I just say ordinary people in the street, their attitude towards muslim fundamentalists and the whole dark side of the faith is far far far far farrrrrrrrrrrrr more negatively opinionated than you will read on a Newcastle message board. I would never state my true feelings on here because too many people would be offended. I'm not racist, I don't see skin tone, I abhor certain beliefs, interpretations and morals, I genuinely don't think LM is any different. I'd rather you gave your opinions frankly. I certainly do on here on all matters and have had no bother. Life's too short Steven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3992 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Spot on imo. Thin edge of a wedge - if you say troops are off limits for protests then next you add the royal family - maybe the pope when he comes this year, then maybe its the government that sends the troops - a very slippery slope. I understand theres a gut reaction to protesting troops but that doesn't mean a ban imo as others have said, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that fact that you do not realise how dangerous this "few" are suggests you are a naive idiot. Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"? an unbelievable question/statement. I s'pose it's worked in the Middle East Thick as whale spunk. Ripped up your footballing "arguments" for arsepaper in the past dipshit, and I'm right in this subject too. You have no reply to my response to your comments about my life either have you. You know nothing of me, and that is how it is going to stay. Way too easy to wind up man. Which goes to the whole heart of the debate of course and exposes your 'solutions' for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Can I just say ordinary people in the street, their attitude towards muslim fundamentalists and the whole dark side of the faith is far far far far farrrrrrrrrrrrr more negatively opinionated than you will read on a Newcastle message board. I would never state my true feelings on here because too many people would be offended. I'm not racist, I don't see skin tone, I abhor certain beliefs, interpretations and morals, I genuinely don't think LM is any different. Islamic fundametalism is, on the whole, horrible though. No one on here ever supports it, do they? It's not even being discussed really though, is it? I'm completely behind the Palestinians on here, I don't think it really bothers anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26758 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Behead those who insult Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Can I just say ordinary people in the street, their attitude towards muslim fundamentalists and the whole dark side of the faith is far far far far farrrrrrrrrrrrr more negatively opinionated than you will read on a Newcastle message board. I would never state my true feelings on here because too many people would be offended. I'm not racist, I don't see skin tone, I abhor certain beliefs, interpretations and morals, I genuinely don't think LM is any different. Islamic fundametalism is, on the whole, horrible though. No one on here ever supports it, do they? It's not even being discussed really though, is it? I'm completely behind the Palestinians on here, I don't think it really bothers anybody. That's not being discussed either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Britain has a long history of demonstrating against war. One million against the Iraq war iirc. Are they all going to be sent back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that fact that you do not realise how dangerous this "few" are suggests you are a naive idiot. Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"? an unbelievable question/statement. I s'pose it's worked in the Middle East Thick as whale spunk. Ripped up your footballing "arguments" for arsepaper in the past dipshit, and I'm right in this subject too. You have no reply to my response to your comments about my life either have you. You know nothing of me, and that is how it is going to stay. Way too easy to wind up man. Which goes to the whole heart of the debate of course and exposes your 'solutions' for what they are. beaten so resorting to the "wind up" route. Laughable. You meant it alright and don't deny it. What a dick. No wonder those mancunians laugh at you and your poor little feelings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Spot on imo. Thus pissing all over the rights that generations of British troops have fought and died to preserve. A fitting testament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Spot on imo. Thin edge of a wedge - if you say troops are off limits for protests then next you add the royal family - maybe the pope when he comes this year, then maybe its the government that sends the troops - a very slippery slope. I understand theres a gut reaction to protesting troops but that doesn't mean a ban imo as others have said, You're already not allowed to protest if the Chinese Government are in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooner 243 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 ok Leazes how do you feel about the following? http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/01/08/...ted-states.html i know it's not a "british" story ( my sincerest apologies) but how do you account for these muslims, since they are saying in no uncertain terms that they don't (and any muslims should not) condone terrorist attacks. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/demographics.asp another good link, as it speaks to the EU muslim "invasion" putting "invasion" in brackets like that says everything to be honest so does your incredibly myopic view of all that is non-british, what color is your hood? traditional white or is it emblazoned with a union jack? my views are based on life experience, not what some out of touch "intellectual" has brainwashed me with. By the way, your own comments above betray your own limited thinking but I don't suppose you will understand that....... please....enlighten me to your point of view. I have a genuine desire to understand the xenophobic point of view. I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion. however you still haven't commented on the above articles.....the second you may not enjoy and fair enough, my original link is for an article on the fatwa from the heads of the muslim religion in NA. They state that it goes against muslim teachings to try and enact terrorist plots.......sooooooo, what say you to that? Are they just joking? that's what I mean. Are you one of these out of touch "intellectuals" yourself who actually have no experience of anything PS.......don't tell me your link goes against muslim teachings, tell the terrorists scumbags that you are making excuses for, but make sure you tell them before they blow your head off ?????.....I am going to assume this is all just a big misunderstanding and that you mis-read the link I posted....errrrrm....you did read didn't you LM you would never go off on a tangent simply for a lark.....would you please, I re-iterate my last post, I would like to know how you account for the first article about the fatwa (religious edict) from the Imam's of NA stating it is un-muslim to enact terrorist campaigns. it is not that I am making excuses, I am just looking for clarification of how you see this direct contradiction of you view of muslims, which is that they are scumbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Britain has a long history of demonstrating against war. One million against the Iraq war iirc. Are they all going to be sent back? point being Parky, there was nothing to stop Iraqis going back to Iraq and fighting our troops if they felt they didn't want to support their actions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 The thing is Stevie I've made it clear on here that I abhor organised religion and a lot of the so called morals that go with it - that doesn't mean I judge all Muslims/Christians/Jews as cunts who "don't belong here" which is what LM suggests. I am not suggesting anything. I started off by saying those who abuse and demonstrate against British troops on British soil ought to be chucked out of the country or banged up until they agree to leave. I also said if their sympathies lie with the other country in question, then they should fuck off and fight for them, openly, in uniform unlike the cowardly fucks that they are supporting. There is nothing wrong with that, it is spot on in my view. To date, nobody, including you, has gave me any reason to say differently nor have you gave any reason why they should not do this because they certainly don't belong on the streets of the UK Spot on imo. Did you hear the US has passed a remarkably similar law btw. Any antiwar protests are to be subdued by force and anyone proven to have taken part will be forced to leave the country. The UK have agreed to take up to 250 of the deportees each month. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26758 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that fact that you do not realise how dangerous this "few" are suggests you are a naive idiot. Dangerous in what way? As someone who walked through London in July 2005 and who works in the prime target for these "dangerous" people I have to say I don't give the possibilty of any danger a second thought. If you spend your life worrying about shit like that you may as well give up. I'd also ask - if all Muslims were kicked out of the UK tomorrow how would anyone be "safer"? an unbelievable question/statement. I s'pose it's worked in the Middle East Thick as whale spunk. Ripped up your footballing "arguments" for arsepaper in the past dipshit, and I'm right in this subject too. You have no reply to my response to your comments about my life either have you. You know nothing of me, and that is how it is going to stay. I reckon he has you pegged. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...st&p=704699 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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