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Just out of curiosity MM, how often do you go to Liverpool? I obviously don't share your view of the city but respect the fact that you gave your honest opinion.

 

I go a few times a year mate, mainly for work. Though I have been on nights out in the past (not always the most comfortable experience being on the sauce over there with a Manc accent if I'm honest). I genuinely don't think my views are coloured by any hatred of Liverpool FC either, because as I say, I've always been inclined to favour them in as far as they are the rags sworn enemy and your enemy's enemy is a friend etc etc. I know thats petty minded like but I hate Man Utd and can't help it.

 

What I will honestly say is that the single most overwhelming thing for me is (and I spose it's about first impressions really), but driving in from Manchester, before you get to the city centre of Liverpool you literally do just drive miles and miles through total urban desolation. I have never known anywhere like it. And I say that as someone who drives through Moss Side and Hulme every day!

 

 

Driving in through the Edge Lane area has always been a bone of contention and most Scousers would agree with your view entirely. Legal wrangling has held up regeneration to the area for years and the council appeared to let the area run down in an effort to speed up the legal process. All the legal issues have now been resolved and the bulldozers moved in a few weeks ago. Hopefully your future journeys will be an improvement.

 

Are they finally getting round to knocking down those blocked up houses in Kensington? Serious bottle-neck there where it goes down to two lanes from one.

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Newcastle's got it's problems like any other city. During the last decade or so the rise of charverdom has been all too noticeable, there's beggars and tramps literally on my work doorstep, and walking back from work in the evening past the Bigg market and Gate is a sobering experience.

 

I've always quite liked Liverpool and Manchester, both have some horrific areas and both have redeeming features. Same is true of Glasgow. Birmingham, on the other hand, has no redeeming features at all.

Every time I see your name "Renton last post" I think to myself I bet I shake my head and think what a cunt at the end of the post. More often than not I do.

 

OK, explain what makes me a cunt on this post then?

You put a negative slant on everything. Walking past The Gate you find galling, the only time it's over ran with cunts outside is a weekend, and the Bigg Market, what old cunts falling out the Beehive in to the bookies? As for beggars, only thing I've ever been asked for was a tab, and tramps, I haven't seen a bamp (actual bamp) in town for years.

 

There are homeless people who live outside my office though, that's just a fact, and a couple of fairly agressive beggars too. I walk past the Gate and up Barrack road quite often at night and its not always pleasent to say the least. Neither is using the Metro. You paint Newcastle as some utopia but that's just ridiculous imo, it's just like any other city. Regardless, saying this hardly make me a cunt though ffs.

 

Also the Tyne valley, nice enough, but literally nothing special about it at all. If you like it for personal reasons then fair enough, but you should be more objective in your appraisal, otherwise you just come across as an insular tit.

I can just see you walking up Barrack Road scratching your beard with one of these bags round your shoulder giving dirty looks to someone who's just walked past you smoking.

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Renton's spot on insofar as the city centre can be a properly threatening place at times. But I suppose the point is you go to the places that suit you and ignore the rest, same as anywhere else.

Threatening. How is it threatening? I've never ever ever felt threatened once ever in my life in Newcastle, and I mean that ever. Do yous live in some fuckin paralell universe or something?

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Renton's spot on insofar as the city centre can be a properly threatening place at times. But I suppose the point is you go to the places that suit you and ignore the rest, same as anywhere else.

Threatening. How is it threatening? I've never ever ever felt threatened once ever in my life in Newcastle, and I mean that ever. Do yous live in some fuckin paralell universe or something?

Maybe I do. I'm happy for you, anyway. :unsure:

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That was before Liverpool one opened which is now the most popular shopping outlet in the north west.

 

Aye... and what did you lot call the store you opened in there again? 'Everton Two'.

 

And you reckon you're not obsessed by your considerably more successful neighbours... :unsure:

 

 

It's called local rivalry and it was done for a laugh. It was actually suggested on a forum and the club picked it up.

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Renton's spot on insofar as the city centre can be a properly threatening place at times. But I suppose the point is you go to the places that suit you and ignore the rest, same as anywhere else.

Threatening. How is it threatening? I've never ever ever felt threatened once ever in my life in Newcastle, and I mean that ever. Do yous live in some fuckin paralell universe or something?

Maybe I do. I'm happy for you, anyway. :unsure:

Maybe certain people are more upset about people around them than others due to their effeminate natures.

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Renton's spot on insofar as the city centre can be a properly threatening place at times. But I suppose the point is you go to the places that suit you and ignore the rest, same as anywhere else.

Threatening. How is it threatening? I've never ever ever felt threatened once ever in my life in Newcastle, and I mean that ever. Do yous live in some fuckin paralell universe or something?

Maybe I do. I'm happy for you, anyway. :huh:

Maybe certain people are more upset about people around them than others due to their effeminate natures.

Seems a bit out of character given how much you love the gays when they help you make a point about London being great. :unsure:

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Largely agree but no way is the Tyne Valley the best countryside in England.

Tyne Valley and Northumberland past Rothbury (other than the Lakes which I discount cos its full of tourists and yanks)

I know we've had this conversation before like so we won't agree. Although I mentioned two parts of Northumberland being nicer than the Tyne Valley imo. Rothbury way being one of them (Northumber National Park / Cheviots etc). It's a canny bit further than 10 miles though. Btw I think the Tyne Valley is lovely but there's a lot of the England countryside on a par with it. Even in terms of looking quite similar.

Worcestershire is a very underrated county, and Warwickshire, similar but it's not the same imo. There's about 30 miles of the A696 in to Scotland where you're on the road and you think you're in heaven. Take your lass up it and across the border, with "Love lifts up where we're belong on the stereo" see if you agree.

:unsure::huh:;)

 

Fuckin hell Stevie

 

How to spoil a nice drive.

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Largely agree but no way is the Tyne Valley the best countryside in England.

Tyne Valley and Northumberland past Rothbury (other than the Lakes which I discount cos its full of tourists and yanks)

I know we've had this conversation before like so we won't agree. Although I mentioned two parts of Northumberland being nicer than the Tyne Valley imo. Rothbury way being one of them (Northumber National Park / Cheviots etc). It's a canny bit further than 10 miles though. Btw I think the Tyne Valley is lovely but there's a lot of the England countryside on a par with it. Even in terms of looking quite similar.

Worcestershire is a very underrated county, and Warwickshire, similar but it's not the same imo. There's about 30 miles of the A696 in to Scotland where you're on the road and you think you're in heaven. Take your lass up it and across the border, with "Love lifts up where we're belong on the stereo" see if you agree.

:huh:;):no

 

Fuckin hell Stevie

 

How to spoil a nice drive.

:unsure:

Also think it's a bit daft writing the Lake District off because of the tourists. Apart from the fact it's undeniably beautiful it's very easy to get away from the hordes of people.

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Speaking of the thread title. Small crowd for the wall pushers...

23,000 home fans, total disgrace with attractive opposition, and reduced prices, we were getting nearly double in the Intertoto. Like I say there's not a more fickle crowd in world football. Easily the worst supporters in this country.

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Largely agree but no way is the Tyne Valley the best countryside in England.

Tyne Valley and Northumberland past Rothbury (other than the Lakes which I discount cos its full of tourists and yanks)

I know we've had this conversation before like so we won't agree. Although I mentioned two parts of Northumberland being nicer than the Tyne Valley imo. Rothbury way being one of them (Northumber National Park / Cheviots etc). It's a canny bit further than 10 miles though. Btw I think the Tyne Valley is lovely but there's a lot of the England countryside on a par with it. Even in terms of looking quite similar.

Worcestershire is a very underrated county, and Warwickshire, similar but it's not the same imo. There's about 30 miles of the A696 in to Scotland where you're on the road and you think you're in heaven. Take your lass up it and across the border, with "Love lifts up where we're belong on the stereo" see if you agree.

:huh:;):no

 

Fuckin hell Stevie

 

How to spoil a nice drive.

:unsure:

Also think it's a bit daft writing the Lake District off because of the tourists. Apart from the fact it's undeniably beautiful it's very easy to get away from the hordes of people.

 

Hard Knot Pass for one... :o

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Earlier this year in the Lakes i overheard an Essex-type woman at breakfast complaining to her husband that there was 'nothing but lakes and mountains' in the Lake District. :unsure:

 

I wish I was there today like, gorgeous weather.

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Btw Stevie, I know I've mentioned this before, but your taste in tunes man. ;)

:huh:

My taste in tunes is wide and varied :unsure: I'm the sort of bloke who would be a good DJ at someones 40th birthday party in a social club.

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Btw Stevie, I know I've mentioned this before, but your taste in tunes man. ;)

:huh:

My taste in tunes is wide and varied :unsure: I'm the sort of bloke who would be a good DJ at someones 40th birthday party in a social club.

Err, can you put 'I love an atmosphere' By Russ Abbott on, please, DJ Stevie?

 

That'll get them up. :no

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Btw Stevie, I know I've mentioned this before, but your taste in tunes man. :no

;)

My taste in tunes is wide and varied :unsure: I'm the sort of bloke who would be a good DJ at someones 40th birthday party in a social club.

Err, can you put 'I love an atmosphere' By Russ Abbott on, please, DJ Stevie?

 

That'll get them up. :o

:huh: "and when you take me there you and I'll be dancing in the cool night air ooh ooh ooh.."

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Btw Stevie, I know I've mentioned this before, but your taste in tunes man. :no

;)

My taste in tunes is wide and varied :unsure: I'm the sort of bloke who would be a good DJ at someones 40th birthday party in a social club.

Err, can you put 'I love an atmosphere' By Russ Abbott on, please, DJ Stevie?

 

That'll get them up. :o

:huh: "and when you take me there you and I'll be dancing in the cool night air ooh ooh ooh.."

They don't make them like that anymore!

 

Thank fuck! :no

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Speaking of the thread title. Small crowd for the wall pushers...

23,000 home fans, total disgrace with attractive opposition, and reduced prices, we were getting nearly double in the Intertoto. Like I say there's not a more fickle crowd in world football. Easily the worst supporters in this country.

 

We only got 28,000 against Alkmaar in the last 16 of the competition...

 

Ebbe Skovdahl: "Statistics are just like mini-skirts, they give you good ideas but hide the most important thing." :unsure:

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Speaking of the thread title. Small crowd for the wall pushers...

23,000 home fans, total disgrace with attractive opposition, and reduced prices, we were getting nearly double in the Intertoto. Like I say there's not a more fickle crowd in world football. Easily the worst supporters in this country.

Worst in Europe: OFFICIAL.

 

UEFA: liverpool fans the worst in Europe.

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