ewerk 26441 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 What did Goram do? Strong supporter of UVF/LVF. He wore a black armband in 'honour' of Billy Wright in an Old Firm game a few days after his murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 aye all the stuff stevie mentioned about the bigotry being the main reasons he's getting hassle is spot on like.As Barney said, every other spastic over here will support one or the other, for that lot it's the equivalent of one of those lads you meet and ya say "so ya follow the footy?" and they reply with "well not really, but i support man utd!", if you're from certain areas you'll near enough always have 80% of the people saying they support TeamX + rangers/celtic. is correct. However, Lennon doesn't make things easier for himself with his attitude, which appears to someone from the outside to be as bigoted and aggressive as those "on the other side of the fence to him" IMO because he is rich, and well known, and in a position of responsibility, he should be looking to spread a more understanding view of this sort of thing, including showing a more mature and responsible attitude to referees. To be honest, bearing in mind his record in that department, its a case of what goes around comes around. What has he done that is bigoted? I'd say using the term "Dirty Orange Bastard" is bigoted. Would you I'd call that incredibly mild and said in the heat of the moment. Having met and talked to the fella about NI and playing for his country he certainly didn't come across as a bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 What did Goram do? Strong supporter of UVF/LVF. He wore a black armband in 'honour' of Billy Wright in an Old Firm game a few days after his murder. He was probably in two minds about whether he should or not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38802 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 What did Goram do? Strong supporter of UVF/LVF. He wore a black armband in 'honour' of Billy Wright in an Old Firm game a few days after his murder. He was probably in two minds about whether he should or not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 why would lennon get the sack for hes done nowt wrong whoever is targeting him are a right bunch of cunt faggots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6871 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Where'd you hear that? So are you going to answer the question? What has he done that is bigoted? sorry mate. Can't say on here, but he's finished. Rumours of N word, caught on camera and Edu at Ibrox maybe ? Be very surprised if true mind, the Hun elements in the press'd be all over it surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 aye all the stuff stevie mentioned about the bigotry being the main reasons he's getting hassle is spot on like.As Barney said, every other spastic over here will support one or the other, for that lot it's the equivalent of one of those lads you meet and ya say "so ya follow the footy?" and they reply with "well not really, but i support man utd!", if you're from certain areas you'll near enough always have 80% of the people saying they support TeamX + rangers/celtic. is correct. However, Lennon doesn't make things easier for himself with his attitude, which appears to someone from the outside to be as bigoted and aggressive as those "on the other side of the fence to him" IMO because he is rich, and well known, and in a position of responsibility, he should be looking to spread a more understanding view of this sort of thing, including showing a more mature and responsible attitude to referees. To be honest, bearing in mind his record in that department, its a case of what goes around comes around. What has he done that is bigoted? I'd say using the term "Dirty Orange Bastard" is bigoted. Would you I'd call that incredibly mild and said in the heat of the moment. Having met and talked to the fella about NI and playing for his country he certainly didn't come across as a bigot. YOU might, but at the end of the day, is it a bigoted term? Yes. Does it show he probably harbours bigoted views to even think about saying that even in retaliation? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 There's a very fine line between banter and racism/religious bigotry. That line moves every year too and IMO for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Fucking Scots cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 is correct. However, Lennon doesn't make things easier for himself with his attitude, which appears to someone from the outside to be as bigoted and aggressive as those "on the other side of the fence to him" IMO because he is rich, and well known, and in a position of responsibility, he should be looking to spread a more understanding view of this sort of thing, including showing a more mature and responsible attitude to referees. To be honest, bearing in mind his record in that department, its a case of what goes around comes around. What has he done that is bigoted? I'd say using the term "Dirty Orange Bastard" is bigoted. Would you I'd call that incredibly mild and said in the heat of the moment. Having met and talked to the fella about NI and playing for his country he certainly didn't come across as a bigot. YOU might, but at the end of the day, is it a bigoted term? Yes. Does it show he probably harbours bigoted views to even think about saying that even in retaliation? Yes. No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Well you can't say that, and not provide examples. Best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman02uk 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Well you can't say that, and not provide examples. Best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations. what he said....and calling someone a dirty orange bastard is bigoted (replace "orange" with "black" or "muslim" how would that go down) ive got mates who would be extremely offended by that (although they are bogtrotting tramps to be fair) Edited May 16, 2011 by sandman02uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Well you can't say that, and not provide examples. Best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations. Like I need to show specifics when it comes to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Well you can't say that, and not provide examples. Best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations. Like I need to show specifics when it comes to you. In other words you have nothing specific to say, because there's no evidence to back up your point of view. See in my view, of all the Irish people on here, you are the nearest to a bigot we have, shines through to me whenever Ireland is discussed. The likes of Barney and Ant are totally liberal in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Well you can't say that, and not provide examples. Best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations. Like I need to show specifics when it comes to you. In other words you have nothing specific to say, because there's no evidence to back up your point of view. See in my view, of all the Irish people on here, you are the nearest to a bigot we have, shines through to me whenever Ireland is discussed. The likes of Barney and Ant are totally liberal in comparison. Alright then, what about your comments about Matthew Syed, I reckon they're just as offensive as what Lennon said, yet we don't brand you as a racist. And I'll put the same question to you, show me one thing I have ever said on here that is even close to being bigoted. Some of my best friends are protestant. Edited May 16, 2011 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No worse than some of the stuff you've said on here. Am I going to search through your posts to find examples? No I'm not. Well you can't say that, and not provide examples. Best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations. Like I need to show specifics when it comes to you. In other words you have nothing specific to say, because there's no evidence to back up your point of view. See in my view, of all the Irish people on here, you are the nearest to a bigot we have, shines through to me whenever Ireland is discussed. The likes of Barney and Ant are totally liberal in comparison. Alright then, what about your comments about Matthew Syed, I reckon they're just as offensive as what Lennon said, yet we don't brand you as a racist. And I'll put the same question to you, show me one thing I have ever said on here that is even close to being bigoted. Some of my best friends are protestant. The only comment you'd ever find on here, and it's been used more than Bainesgate. I don't even think it was offensive, it's not slagging muslims off, just basically saying Syed is a prick, which he is. LM agrees with my statement. Re: your bigoted ways, it's more of a collective undertone I've noticed tbh, than one specific comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So you've nothing then? I think you'll find that after having lived in England and working there 90% of the time I've never said a bad word about the place. I'm also on record as saying that I'm strongly in favour of the Union. So in your own words, 'best policy is to pipe down rather than make false accusations'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Tbf, ewerk is one of the only Irish kids I've come across who would like to see England do well in tournaments. Even the 'British' lot in Norn Iron mostly want us to lose in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Tbf, ewerk is one of the only Irish kids I've come across who would like to see England do well in tournaments. Even the 'British' lot in Norn Iron mostly want us to lose in my experience. You patronising bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman02uk 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Tbf, ewerk is one of the only Irish kids I've come across who would like to see England do well in tournaments. Even the 'British' lot in Norn Iron mostly want us to lose in my experience. You patronising bastard. Would you have prefered it, if he had said "cunt"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Tbf, ewerk is one of the only Irish kids I've come across who would like to see England do well in tournaments. Even the 'British' lot in Norn Iron mostly want us to lose in my experience. You patronising bastard. I always refer to blokes as kids unless they're some old fart. And for the record, I still think you're a prick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I'm not quite sure why but at least we're clear on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Only joking btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I can never quite tell with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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