Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Nice bait and switch. We are in the EU - nobody wanted it. We went to war in Iraq - millions didn't want it...We bailed out the banks - nobody was asked. Not sure we can start lecturing the americans about rights and democracy. You're saying that as if you've sat back and said nowt about the bank bailouts. All of a sudden you're a mute prole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 You're saying that as if you've sat back and said nowt about the bank bailouts. All of a sudden you're a mute prole? I should have shot some motha fuckas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Err democracy was built on guns. Or do you speak German? We ain't wiping out guns here. Just not selling them alongside Grand theft auto 5. There were no private citizens with uzi's flown into Germany or Japan that I'm aware of. 50 cent wasn't leading a storm on the white house when he got popped 9 (NINE) times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) We ain't wiping out guns here. Just not selling them alongside Grand theft auto 5. There were no private citizens with uzi's flown into Germany or Japan that I'm aware of. 50 cent wasn't leading a storm on the white house when he got popped 9 (NINE) times. How would we defend ourselves if a dictatorship took over? (Far fetched I know ). Vote Ukip? Put the rubbish in the wrong bins? Edited December 16, 2012 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 So we should have guns to, to you know, defend ourselves? Fuck sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6866 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It's not a case of taking these steps in the naive belief gun crime will be eradicated completely. The point would be to shift from a gun loving country to one less so. And keep taking steps as and when it's politically possible. If only licensed gun stores could sell them....and were restricted to ONLY selling guns and ammo, then perhaps it would become more stigmatised. As it shuld be. Being able to pick up a gun with the milk is the sort of thing that will keep Americans in the mindset you're talking about. They can't, that's a huge and erroneous simplification. In nearly all states (Connecticut being one of the strictest) you have to pass police and federal checks to buy a gun, you cannot just walk into somewhere and walk out with a gun like it was a packet of sweets, not sure about ammo purchase but in most places guns aren't a walk in walk out sort of thing (in Texas you can if you have State resident ID). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 So we should have guns to, to you know, defend ourselves? Fuck sake 40% of America is starving (on food stamps). The Govt is bought and paid for many times over. It will come to it that americans are going to have another revolution. That ain't gonna happen with water pistols bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 How would we defend ourselves if a dictatorship took over? (Far fetched I know ). Vote Ukip? Put the rubbish in the wrong bins? I already put the rubbish in the wrong bins. Fight the power. If America hasn't turned on its overlords by now, with the guns they have, I don't think they're ever gonna be suitably motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 They can't, that's a huge and erroneous simplification. In nearly all states (Connecticut being one of the strictest) you have to pass police and federal checks to buy a gun, you cannot just walk into somewhere and walk out with a gun like it was a packet of sweets, not sure about ammo purchase but in most places guns aren't a walk in walk out sort of thing (in Texas you can if you have State resident ID). HF gets his gun info from The Wire man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 They can't, that's a huge and erroneous simplification. In nearly all states (Connecticut being one of the strictest) you have to pass police and federal checks to buy a gun, you cannot just walk into somewhere and walk out with a gun like it was a packet of sweets, not sure about ammo purchase but in most places guns aren't a walk in walk out sort of thing (in Texas you can if you have State resident ID). I am aware. But I have seen the guns in Walmart. Fat men perusing the selection with their toddlers. Mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I already put the rubbish in the wrong bins. Fight the power. If America hasn't turned on its overlords by now, with the guns they have, I don't think they're ever gonna be suitably motivated. I personally believe gun ownership is the only thing keeping that country from a full blown police state/dictatorship (some would say it is already). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I am aware. But I have seen the guns in Walmart. Fat men perusing the selection with their toddlers. Mental. It's just culturally foreign to you. I'd probably have the same response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It's just culturally foreign to you. I'd probably have the same response. The natural habitat of your average amican being the school massacre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The natural habitat of your average amican being the school massacre In only 10 states does gun death outnumber car death Alaska: 104 gun deaths, 84 motor vehicle deaths Arizona: 856 gun deaths, 809 motor vehicle deaths Colorado: 583 gun deaths, 565 motor vehicle deaths Indiana: 735 gun deaths, 715 motor vehicle deaths Michigan: 1,095 gun deaths, 977 motor vehicle deaths Nevada: 406 gun deaths, 255 motor vehicle deaths Oregon: 417 gun deaths, 394 motor vehicle deaths Utah: 260 gun deaths, 256 motor vehicle deaths Virginia: 836 gun deaths, 827 motor vehicle deaths Washington: 623 gun deaths, 580 motor vehicle deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Morgan Freeman's take on what happened yesterday : "You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why. It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody. CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next. You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Damn cars getting safer. Should put airbags in the tips of bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Like reports of his death earlier, attribution of that quote to Morgan Freeman on Facebook is wide of the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruler of Planet Houston 1 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I couldn't help reading that quote in a morgan freeman narration voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6866 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I am aware. But I have seen the guns in Walmart. Fat men perusing the selection with their toddlers. Mental. If Sports Direct was in the US it would sell guns, hunting is HUGE in the USA, they think of it as nothing different to an aisle of fishing rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 This sums it up for me. "I just cannot understand a society where gun ownership is a universal right and healthcare is a privilege." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 If Sports Direct was in the US it would sell guns, hunting is HUGE in the USA, they think of it as nothing different to an aisle of fishing rods. Exactly. A fucked up national psyche that needs gun ownership to be stigmatized for its own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6866 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Exactly. A fucked up national psyche that needs gun ownership to be stigmatized for its own good. You can't stigmatize the majority, minority aye, piece of piss, see smokers as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Only 35% of Americans live in a house with a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17797 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Smoking used to be a majority activity. I can only assume Parky is on drugs or pissed with his facile comments btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26391 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Link ?? I would guess the lower gun crime States are actually those with better education and less poverty http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/ You're right of course, there are many factors involved but you can't ignore the fact that there is a correlation between gun control and gun crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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