NJS 4762 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Not trying to trivialise it but it would be amusing if 400 years of shit in Ireland and fuck knows how many deaths ended with some form of a United Ireland due to a vote by mainly English idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 53569 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 This is gonna be a shitshow. This just looks like a "we'll iron out the details later" moment from this The Thick of It government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 It means that NI is staying in the CU/SM. Fuck the rest of yis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like bad news for Remain sentiments on the face of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:38, ewerk said: It means that NI is staying in the CU/SM. Fuck the rest of yis. Expand If true, you would think Scotland would be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 The Scots can get fucked. They don't have a land border with the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24796 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:38, ewerk said: It means that NI is staying in the CU/SM. Fuck the rest of yis. Expand What about the DUP? Who are, after all, required by the Tories for S&C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24796 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:41, ewerk said: The Scots can get fucked. They don't have a land border with the EU. Expand Not yet. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:41, Renton said: What about the DUP? Who are, after all, required by the Tories for S&C. Expand If this is what it looks like then they'll be furious. It could well bring down the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Though... Either they're well out of the loop or May has told them something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24796 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Aye, as I thought, the circle can't be squared because it needs DUP assent. It's GE time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 So the idea seems to be that the Tories are confident that they'll get a customs agreement that looks near as dammit to the single market and that none of this will matter as a result. What the fuck man, what a colossal waste of time this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:48, Renton said: Aye, as I thought, the circle can't be squared because it needs DUP assent. It's GE time. Expand They'll not just have walked into a GE man, they'll have a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53569 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:54, Rayvin said: They'll not just have walked into a GE man, they'll have a plan. Expand You think?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I've been waiting on the Tories to collapse for months, and they're just not doing it. They won't let this become a GE issue, I think they'd sooner turn Brexit around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38184 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 They seem incompetent enough to have temporarily forgotten about the small issue of being a minority government being propped up by the DUP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 In positive news. The Mail's comment section is fucking furious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16906 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 CRUSH TEH SABOTEURS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 That's the gist of it tbh Also a lot of "You can't trust the Tories, always looking after their rich friends", "This will break up the union!" Finally starting to cotton on maybe. I do think Scotland will go if NI gets what it looks like it's getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24796 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 13:23, Rayvin said: That's the gist of it tbh Also a lot of "You can't trust the Tories, always looking after their rich friends", "This will break up the union!" Finally starting to cotton on maybe. I do think Scotland will go if NI gets what it looks like it's getting. Expand NI won't get this in the present parliament. It would undoubtedly lead to a unified Ireland in time which the unionists will NEVER accept. I'll be honest though, I'm confused at what the state of play is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6648 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) I genuinely think it's this: The government is pinning everything on the trade deal, which it expects will make this concern obsolete somehow. The single market in all but name, I think. Edited December 4, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19998 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 12:44, ewerk said: If this is what it looks like then they'll be furious. It could well bring down the government. Expand Haven't the government got a massive amount of leaveridge with this summer's massive "strong and stable bribe though? Or will the DUO cut their noses to spite their faces?.....they will won't they? Brexit for England Wales and Scotland only. Ryanair doubling flights from Krakow to George Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 04/12/2017 at 13:29, PaddockLad said: Haven't the government got a massive amount of leaveridge with this summer's massive "strong and stable bribe though? Or will the DUO cut their noses to spite their faces?.....they will won't they? Brexit for England Wales and Scotland only. Ryanair doubling flights from Krakow to George Best Expand I don't think the bribe money has yet been paid. The DUP agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on though. They can't exactly sue the DUP if they break it. How they'll react is anyone's guess, they were taking a tough stance at the weekend but it remains to be seen if that was all bluster. Anyway... Stick your Brexit up your arse Stick your Brexit up your arse LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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