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[Gemmill 62979]

They haven't done anything wrong imo. There is no question of what he was doing in that Jan 6th speech. He got exactly what he was hoping for. But because we're through the fucking looking glass and the bloke doesn't even get challenged anymore when he says the 2020 election was rigged, and the J6 people were wrongly imprisoned, he can try and pull something like this. 

 

[Renton 27739]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

They haven't done anything wrong imo. There is no question of what he was doing in that Jan 6th speech. He got exactly what he was hoping for. But because we're through the fucking looking glass and the bloke doesn't even get challenged anymore when he says the 2020 election was rigged, and the J6 people were wrongly imprisoned, he can try and pull something like this. 

 

 

I've heard the edited and unedited sequences. It was unnecessary. They could easily have made it clear they were different segments. The case is ludicrous though, if I was the head of the Beeb I'd ignore it.

[Gemmill 62979]

 

This cunt piling on. He's been on the BBC more than any fucker. 

 

They'll no doubt reward him with even more appearances. 

[Toonpack 15507]

4 hours ago, Renton said:

 

Its affordable for many if you downsize from a 4 bedroom to a 2 bed cottage like. As for flooding, buy on top of a hill, keep you fit as well.

 

I'm probably going Scotland anyway. 

 

When you're 65+ and qualify as a sponging old cunt ??

[Craig 12322]

 

1 hour ago, Renton said:

 

I've heard the edited and unedited sequences. It was unnecessary. They could easily have made it clear they were different segments. The case is ludicrous though, if I was the head of the Beeb I'd ignore it.

Aye, as much as Trump is a cunt who was clearly well up for inciting the riots, the splice was unnecessary and has given him ammunition to go after them. Fucking idiots IYAM

[Rayvin 8295]

I've read the speech and the BBC has indeed done him on this. I can't even defend it from context, the fighting references come up over and over again and it's never actually directed at overthrowing the capitol.

 

Maybe we really are fake news sometimes. That being said he can fuck off just in general, all the time, always.

[PaddockLad 22422]

This is the only context you need...

 

Man addresses men assembled in front of him, urges them to "FIGHT" 20 times 

Men, some of whom are armed and one carrying a makeshift gallows, immediately march and then proceed to fight law enforcement to gain illegal  access to the Capitol. Lots of evidence that both man and men were fully aware of plans to attack Capitol. 

 

That's all there is to it.... 

 

 

 

[GrahamTaylor5 1781]

13 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

This cunt piling on. He's been on the BBC more than any fucker. 

 

They'll no doubt reward him with even more appearances. 

To be fair, most people agree with Farage that it has been biased for years, which is why he has been on it so many times. This narrative will enable it to become even more biased and, as you have said, have even more appearances on it.

[Gemmill 62979]

33 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

This is the only context you need...

 

Man addresses men assembled in front of him, urges them to "FIGHT" 20 times 

Men, some of whom are armed and one carrying a makeshift gallows, immediately march and then proceed to fight law enforcement to gain illegal  access to the Capitol. Lots of evidence that both man and men were fully aware of plans to attack Capitol. 

 

That's all there is to it.... 

 

 

 

 

Aye. I'm not having this "the BBC shouldn't have done it. The BBC showed every part of trust speech for which Trump wanted the message to land. Go up to that building and fucking raise hell. And we know that because he went back to the oval office and watched it all unfold on the telly and didn't lift a finger to stop it for a long time. 

 

Absolutely fuck this idea that you also have to show the seconds when he remembered he needed to say something slightly more measured. 

[PaddockLad 22422]

12 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Aye. I'm not having this "the BBC shouldn't have done it. The BBC showed every part of trust speech for which Trump wanted the message to land. Go up to that building and fucking raise hell. And we know that because he went back to the oval office and watched it all unfold on the telly and didn't lift a finger to stop it for a long time. 

 

Absolutely fuck this idea that you also have to show the seconds when he remembered he needed to say something slightly more measured. 

 

No. Am sure there are standards and measures in your workplace that you have to stick by/observe. The same goes for journalists. The point that no fucker noticed bar a few politically appointed twats and their mates on the BBC board who laid in wait until some time given to them to leak the memo to the Telegraph is moot. The BBC fundamentally fucked up here  but were prevented from attempting to deal with it by the same malign influencers within their leadership.. now they'll spend our money paying Trump off before it gets to court and will be forever cowed when dealing with him going forward which is precisely how he's operated for the last half century

 

If only we had an experienced photo journalist within our midst to properly defend the BBC from this shit, come on @Dr Gloom get off your back and give us what we want

 

 

[Gemmill 62979]

I disagree like. And he's lodged the lawsuit with a Florida court so I'm not even sure the BBC is required to respond to it at all. Bring it over here if you're serious about it, you orange cunt. 

[Renton 27739]

16 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

come on @Dr Gloom get off your back and give us what we want

 

A tad insensitive.

[Gemmill 62979]

He calls it his backy-wack, I believe. 

[Renton 27739]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

He calls it his backy-wack, I believe. 

 

That's why he uses wacky baccy.

[PaddockLad 22422]

40 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I disagree like. And he's lodged the lawsuit with a Florida court so I'm not even sure the BBC is required to respond to it at all. Bring it over here if you're serious about it, you orange cunt. 

 

Too late, you've only got 12 months to bring proceedings in the UK . Gibb will absolutely ensure that license fee payers money go to Trump personally. He's a place man tasked with taking down the BBC. So is the whistle blower and the memo writer. 

[PaddockLad 22422]

33 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

A tad insensitive.

 

Yes, and I have to say deliberately so

 

 

[PaddockLad 22422]

[Gemmill 62979]

Good. 

[Gemmill 62979]

He's not gonna settle for a small amount of money, it'll be in the tens of millions and would rightly result in a lot of people (and not just the gammons) refusing to pay their licence fee anymore. 

[Renton 27739]

Its remarkable that nobody ever thinks to sue him, well, not more often anyway. I think he has been proven to have told 10,000 demonstrable lies since he took office, the vast majority of which are more egregious than what panorama did. 

 

Ehat a fucked up world we live in. BBC should maintain the line, editorial mistake, we're sorry for that, but otherwise get tae fuck. I'll represent them for free.

[PaddockLad 22422]

I do think this is the beginning of the end for auntie beeb regardless of what the settlement with Trump looks like. Other media barons/outlets and the Tories have been out to get them for decades. This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Thing is they've played right into the destroyers' hands...

Edited November 11 by PaddockLad

[Renton 27739]

5 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

I do think this is the beginning of the end for auntie beeb regardless of what the settlement with Trump looks like. Other media barons/outlets and the Tories have out to get them for decades. This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Thing is they've played right into the destroyers' hands...

 

You're contradicting your own post from Peston here? Let's see what happens. No UK court is going to give Trump more than a tenner imo.

[PaddockLad 22422]

Just now, Renton said:

 

You're contradicting your own post from Peston here? Let's see what happens. No UK court is going to give Trump more than a tenner imo.

 

I put it up there for info, to share what he's heard. Also from what I read yesterday you only have 12 months to bring proceedings in the UK and that's passed. It'll be heard in Florida they reckon. 

[Renton 27739]

12 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

 

I put it up there for info, to share what he's heard. Also from what I read yesterday you only have 12 months to bring proceedings in the UK and that's passed. It'll be heard in Florida they reckon. 

 

Not sure how it works from an international law perspective. You'd imagine the BBC are subject to UK jurisdiction?

[Rayvin 8295]

Surely the BBC could only be subject to US law if they agree to be, otherwise they'd be sued daily by regimes all over the world. I was just reading that if it does get heard there, the BBC likely win anyway mind. Presumably Trump wants them to pay him £10m or so in reality so he can call it a win and point to the fake news against him.

 

This really is very stupid of the BBC, I'm actually stunned that they did this. I have read the entire transcript of that speech and you just cannot make the case that the section they included was meant to suggest people become violent at the Capitol. And more than that, honestly, I have indeed been under the impression for about 4 years that he did incite people in a very obvious way, so that 'spin' has indeed hurt his reputation (though I don't think this is solely on the BBC tbf to them).

 

It's a long, rambling speech wherein he talks about fighting for the country, against the Democrats, etc - but at no point in reading it did I honestly feel that he was saying people should become violent at that march. I can see the argument that including aggressive language in a speech like that could be considered irresponsible, but it is nowhere near as clear cut as that edit makes it seem - this part comes after several other references to fighting 'the media, donors, weak republican politicians in primaries, etc. It reads like a continuation of that theme:

 

Our brightest days are before us. Our greatest achievements, still away.

I think one of our great achievements will be election security. Because nobody until I came along had any idea how corrupt our elections were.

And again, most people would stand there at 9 o'clock in the evening and say I want to thank you very much, and they go off to some other life. But I said something's wrong here, something is really wrong, can have happened.

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.