Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 So this is my new "thing" at the minute. I always been quite interested in this stuff and why we do what we do or why some people have phobias etc. A year or two back I used some Tony Robbins techniques and cured my fear of spiders. Last night I spent about 20 minutes using similar techniques and cured my 20 year Phobia of flying. (Of course I can't "prove" the flying phobia to myself until I get on a plane, but I can feel the change and know it's gone). Downloaded some audio sessions from a guy called Jamie Smart and currently spending the weekend listening to them. He also has a book out called Clarity (Daniel Sturridge credits the book with helping him find form). Being me of course, I now have visions of being a hypnotist! Anyway, very interesting subject that we should all pay more attention too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36482 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 It is an interesting topic, which is very much a first for you. Perhaps you could look into curing yourself of breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39361 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I also spent 20 using these techniques to cure my fear of being rimmed by a mountain gorilla, (Of course I can't "prove" the gorilla sex phobia to myself until I get on a plane and get monkey fucked in Rwanda, but I can feel the change and know it's gone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 20 minutes to cure a life-long phobia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 There's no end to his talents a fucking hypnotist now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4984 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yesterday it was sewage, and today it's hypnotherapy. CT does keep discussion in this place varied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18391 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 There is no easy way to 'cure' a genuine fear of flying. If there was, nobody would have the phobia. It's fucking horrific btw, especially if you fly quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 I also spent 20 using these techniques to cure my fear of being rimmed by a mountain gorilla, (Of course I can't "prove" the gorilla sex phobia to myself until I get on a plane and get monkey fucked in Rwanda, but I can feel the change and know it's gone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 20 minutes to cure a life-long phobia? Ok so I padded it out a little. Seriously, if you decide to do anything, how long does it take? If you smoked for 25 years and decide to stop.....? As I say it's an interesting subject that in fairness I couldn't begin to really sell to anyone on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yesterday it was sewage, and today it's hypnotherapy. CT does keep discussion in this place varied. One has to empty the mind of all the shit before one is open to new shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4984 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 One has to empty the mind of all the shit before one is open to new shit. That was almost profound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 There is no easy way to 'cure' a genuine fear of flying. If there was, nobody would have the phobia. It's fucking horrific btw, especially if you fly quite a bit. Most phobias can be cured. Btw it's not a "genuine" fear. It's a perceived false reality. Bit like being terrified of a spider. Your not born with that fear, you have it dumped on you by someone else. Having spent most of my life scared of spiders (the wife was the spider squasher), I literally got rid of the fear in minutes. To the extent that I now catch them by letting them crawl onto my hand and safely transporting them outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18391 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Most phobias can be cured. Btw it's not a "genuine" fear. It's a perceived false reality. Bit like being terrified of a spider. Your not born with that fear, you have it dumped on you by someone else. Having spent most of my life scared of spiders (the wife was the spider squasher), I literally got rid of the fear in minutes. To the extent that I now catch them by letting them crawl onto my hand and safely transporting them outside. I can't comprehend why anyone would be scared of a domestic spider though (big foreign ones fair enough). Flying in a wafer thin pressurised tube of aluminum at 550 mph and 37,000 feet however...... I can't realistically avoid flying or run away from it. The only way I can cope is by making peace with my life and accepting the real possibility of death. So much harder to do this with a kid though. I know this is irrational, and I know the cause of it (flying incident). Over 100 flights later, I know I can not shake this, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36482 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I reckon you can be easily cured of a flying phobia. Step 1 is to stop being such a soft cock. Get that sorted and we'll talk about step 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18391 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 That goes through my head at least 500 times a flight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 I can't comprehend why anyone would be scared of a domestic spider though (big foreign ones fair enough). Flying in a wafer thin pressurised tube of aluminum at 550 mph and 37,000 feet however...... I can't realistically avoid flying or run away from it. The only way I can cope is by making peace with my life and accepting the real possibility of death. So much harder to do this with a kid though. I know this is irrational, and I know the cause of it (flying incident). Over 100 flights later, I know I can not shake this, ever. Have you tried Hypnotherapy? £100 quid and it could be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36482 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 That's CT's mates' rates, Renton, so don't hang about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12993 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Now, let me tell you, Renty boy, I have read up on this for a massive 45 minutes and I say it'll get rid of that namby-pamby fear. Look at me now, I was scared of spiders the size of 10 pence pieces and now I'm trapping them in bowls and hitting them with slippers and all sorts. I'm sure that your perfectly rational fear of being rocked about by gale force winds, 5000 miles into the sky and plummeting to earth, well aware that you're going to be killed on impact, possibly even before if your heart packs in and having to hold on to the hand of your loved ones until your knuckles turn bone white, surrounded by the sounds of frantic screaming and crying can be cured by some baldy arsehole speaking into your ear for 20 minutes. Do what I do with flying and get drugged up and sleep through your demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 It's this simple.... "Almost all phobias can be successfully treated and cured". This is the NHS advice (probably written by you in your NICE days). http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Phobias/Pages/Introduction.aspx I can understand You personally doubting you can ever be cured, but surely you owe it to yourself and your family to try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill 0 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think I'll just stick to lashing valium down my neck every time I fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36482 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Fucking wimps. As soon as the fasten seatbelts sign is off, I'm at the front of the plane, arms outstretched shouting "I'M THE KING OF THE WORRRLD!" You've got to take control of yourselves and the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9340 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) at some of the posts in here. fwiw I think Hypnotherapy could work. Certainly seems rational to me and I'm not one for mediums or psychics or anything like that. I do believe that it's possible to enter a suggestible state where a simple command can be buried beneath the layers of nonsensical neuroses we pile upon ourselves. Phobias are one side of it, but I think things that aren't as incidental, but have more impact on your life could be addressed by the right kind of influence. fear of failure, comfort eating, non-chemical addictions (perhaps reliance would be a better term?). I don't think it would cure chemical addictions, nor would it resolve more severe neuroses like honest to goodness OCD, but I think Hypnotherapy could work. I would add that I think a large number of the practitioners are charlatans in the same group as mediums and psychics, but that's the risk with stuff like this. Edited January 4, 2014 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Good post Fish. I think one of the problems is that relatively speaking it's such a new and developing science in itself understanding not only how the brain works but also how we and others "program" it. I also think if you are serious about solving an issue it is fairly east to come by reputable people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) NLP sometimes works on girls and you get that delightful evil feeling as some kind of master of reality artist. Few years back used to assist a mate of mine who was trained in it doing 'coaching' for elite businessmen who had lost their way... Always giggle when I think back to that.. Edited January 4, 2014 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Fucking wimps. As soon as the fasten seatbelts sign is off, I'm at the front of the plane, arms outstretched shouting "I'M THE KING OF THE WORRRLD!" You've got to take control of yourselves and the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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