The Fish 8994 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: Don't know actually. Trump's "hardline" stance might be useful to the yanks going forward as long as he doesn't go too far. The following president can maintain hardline positions and only ride back on them once diplomatic victories are achieved with the countries they concern. No US president is going to walk in and suddenly make things easier for all these countries without getting anything in return. Unless there's a war. That's fine for their enemies, but what about their friends or nations that America needs something from. They're not going to be keen to offer America a fair deal after Trump's acted the cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: That's fine for their enemies, but what about their friends or nations that America needs something from. They're not going to be keen to offer America a fair deal after Trump's acted the cunt. Does America really have any friends, or just countries whose interests are at least temporarily aligned with their own? I suspect they'd treat us and the EU in exactly the same way as their enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8994 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Does America really have any friends, or just countries whose interests are at least temporarily aligned with their own? I suspect they'd treat us and the EU in exactly the same way as their enemies. They're certainly in a position where there are nations that the United States need shit from and Trump's idiocy will, at the very least, make future negotiations more wrinkled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAgain 0 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Its hard to believe this guy is the president of anything. He would drive a school fete into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 What a gimlet this guy is....People are going to die all over the place for a few minutes vanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 i thought you loved him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i thought you loved him Fake news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 22/11/2016 at 0:46 PM, Park Life said: I wish he was running the UK as well. Parky on Trump, from page 3 of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 All that proves is Parky hates the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It's clearly a wind up. Trumping at Straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 22/11/2016 at 1:05 PM, Park Life said: Do you seriously think he would have gone through all this shit if he wasn't sincere? I agree he is politically naive and likely to be reigned in by the insiders but I never doubted his sincerity. If the political architecture in the U.S. engages with Trump there is likely to be some kind of balance to his term after the hysteria has settled and 'big politics' takes over. never doubted trump's sincerity tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 22/11/2016 at 1:32 PM, Park Life said: We will be better able to get into the specifics after the first 100 days. So far the noises about the trade deals (the one's half of Europe and America have protested about) and better relations with Russia are promising signs that he does intend a reset of sorts. This will have angered the Globalists and the Military Industrial Complex (the shadow Govt. if you like). Illegal immigration is something most of America is worried about (bar maybe California). All afaik he's committed to is deporting those that have committed crimes whilst in America. My major worry about Trump is that he lacks political finesse which is compounded by a very challenging persona and ego. If he can get out of the way of himself and reach out to both chambers will be the test. Will the corporate media back off? Depends if he gives their bosses and owners things to worry about. A lot of them have changed their tune just cause the stock market went up... Will he do something for the rust belt and the inner city? I think he will. I'm intrigued to see if he can get the 21 trillion hidden in offshore funds back into the states with some kind of amnesty or investment honeymoon. This is a pretty good idea and I hope he doesn't forget about it. Is he a nutcase? Yes. But you have to be one to run for President. let's face it, parky, you were loving trump as president in the early days - i think you even said at some point in this thread that him winning was like having you in the white house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 As I said there he is naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: let's face it, parky, you were loving trump as president in the early days - i think you even said at some point in this thread that him winning was like having you in the white house Anyone but Hitlery. Edited December 11, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 12/12/2016 at 11:53 AM, Park Life said: It's basically me moving into the White house in Jan. Brace for impact. and there she is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Dr Gloom said: and there she is He's had his fun but I draw the line at Palestine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Park Life said: As I said there he is naive. just admit it, you bought his bullshit - you thought he was going to shake the establishment up, and be the voice for the workers struggling from deindustrialisation. instead he assembled the richest cabinet in history and wants to giving the super wealthy a massive tax break, like a real man of the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: just admit it, you bought his bullshit - you thought he was going to shake the establishment up, and be the voice for the workers struggling from deindustrialisation. instead he assembled the richest cabinet in history and wants to giving the super wealthy a massive tax break, like a real man of the people. Cancelled TTIP and didn't double down in Syria. Most of my Trump spiel was aimed at winding you and Renton up. Edited December 11, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 just like your climate change craic, i don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: just like your climate change craic, i don't buy it. Yeah you'll be wanting a discount innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Park Life said: He's had his fun but I draw the line at Palestine. Not harsh enough...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Meenzer said: Not harsh enough...? Needs to knock all this Jerusalem shit on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 It’s like he woke up one morning and thought the Middle East is looking too stable. What can I do that’ll stir shit up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Was a campaign promise wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Was a campaign promise wasn't it? most of his predecessors said the same. he was the only one batshit crazy enough to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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