Happy Face 29 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 No chance. Unless May is caught on a hot mic calling a cute puppy a cunting twat the tories are getting most votes. All we can do is minimise the number of seats they win and hurt May's mandate. Hopefully neither she or Corbyn will last very long after that happens and we'll do it all again relatively quickly with a more palatable labour leader for Middle England. Barry Gardiner is emerging as Labour's biggest star for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37833 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On thing that was noted recently (forgotten who by, might've been Nicky Campbell on Radio 5) was how archaic it was that polling days were still on Thursdays and that a Saturday or Sunday might see more people turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 10:25, Alex said: On thing that was noted recently (forgotten who by, might've been Nicky Campbell on Radio 5) was how archaic it was that polling days were still on Thursdays and that a Saturday or Sunday might see more people turn out. Expand People have too much on at the weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5382 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 09:33, Rayvin said: Not so sure, the Tories have repositioned and are going for immigration now - politics of fear. I see the Telegraph have run a story about a 'secret' Labour plan to bring in unskilled EU workers. This is the sort of shit that sticks, although I'd be fascinated to know if there's any truth to it. Expand Its too late for the Tories, the tide has changed and support is draining away. Mind, if this socialist thing goes wrong, I'm holding YOU responsible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 10:57, Christmas Tree said: Its too late for the Tories, the tide has changed and support is draining away. Mind, if this socialist thing goes wrong, I'm holding YOU responsible! Expand You'd be more than welcome to do so. I'll hold my hands up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 10:57, Christmas Tree said: Its too late for the Tories, the tide has changed and support is draining away. Mind, if this socialist thing goes wrong, I'm holding YOU responsible! Expand I reckon you'll change your mind on the way to the ballot box. Suddenly a new 'spring in you step' will be observed as you adjust your hat and bid good day to some blue rinse grannies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5382 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 10:09, Happy Face said: Barry Gardiner is emerging as Labour's biggest star for me. Expand I told you that a fortnight ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37833 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 You were spot on about the rise of UKIP too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Mike Ashley football genius. Labour are finished Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 This is an excerpt from the Guardian - I was thinking it was all quite encouraging until the last sentence. The whole country is taken hostage by pensioners, every single time. "The demographic breakdown also shows that Labour has a lead over the Conservatives among the unskilled social class DE by 43% to 36%. Labour is also ahead among 25-to 34-year-olds – just – by 43% to 34%. This is the first time in the campaign that these two groups have shown stronger support for Labour than Conservatives. It should be noted, however, that in the key skilled working class C2 voters the Conservatives retain a lead, although the gap has narrowed to only two points to 40% to 38%. The unskilled working class and 25- to 34-year-olds join the 18- to 24-year-olds, students and black and minority ethnic voters as the key groups in which Corbyn can expect to find strong support. Unfortunately for Labour, these are the groups with the lowest turnout when it comes to actually voting in the election. It should also be kept in mind that taken together, these groups of voters total 400 out of ICM’s sample of 1,470. The over-65 subgroup, in which the Tories have a commanding lead of 64% to 20%, nearly matches them alone with 392 out of the sample." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 64% hate immigrants more than they love their kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 11:14, Happy Face said: 64% hate immigrants more than they love their kids Expand It's true though. You wouldn't believe it to be the case to talk to any of them individually I'm sure, but it certainly does appear to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Euthanasia is the only way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5382 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 10:59, Park Life said: I reckon you'll change your mind on the way to the ballot box. Suddenly a new 'spring in you step' will be observed as you adjust your hat and bid good day to some blue rinse grannies. Expand Not going to happen. im still wary all this free stuff is doable and concerned about the likes of Abbott etc but am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt and take a punt. Even Corbyn is getting his act together and average working man in the street like me are far more bothered about his good intentions rather than if he forgets some figures in an interview or whether he is prepared to use Trident. I just hope the philosophy is doable and we don't end up with more austerity in 5 years time. As I've said before, we have a real choice in politics now and if this had happened earlier then I think Brexit wouldn't have happened. Its all about hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 11:17, Christmas Tree said: As I've said before, we have a real choice in politics now and if this had happened earlier then I think Brexit wouldn't have happened. Expand This is exactly what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5382 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Btw, Corbyns mad if he doesn't turn up for the debate tonight. Prime time opportunity to call May out for bottling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Corbyn doing the TV debate tonight. He has to be bold tbf to him, but I'm dreading the thought of Farron fucking this up for him somehow. You kinda trust the Greens to know which side their bread is buttered, and Nuttall is a fuckwit, but Farron could see this as a chance to mount some kind of bid to boost his ailing campaign now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5546 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 11:28, Christmas Tree said: Btw, Corbyns mad if he doesn't turn up for the debate tonight. Prime time opportunity to call May out for bottling it. Expand Already announced that he is going to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 There is no way May is going to agree to do it. It'll be damaging for her not to, but it'll be an absolute clusterfuck for her if she attends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Anyone know how good Amber Rudd is at debating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4718 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 11:11, Rayvin said: This is an excerpt from the Guardian - I was thinking it was all quite encouraging until the last sentence. The whole country is taken hostage by pensioners, every single time. "The demographic breakdown also shows that Labour has a lead over the Conservatives among the unskilled social class DE by 43% to 36%. Labour is also ahead among 25-to 34-year-olds – just – by 43% to 34%. This is the first time in the campaign that these two groups have shown stronger support for Labour than Conservatives. It should be noted, however, that in the key skilled working class C2 voters the Conservatives retain a lead, although the gap has narrowed to only two points to 40% to 38%. The unskilled working class and 25- to 34-year-olds join the 18- to 24-year-olds, students and black and minority ethnic voters as the key groups in which Corbyn can expect to find strong support. Unfortunately for Labour, these are the groups with the lowest turnout when it comes to actually voting in the election. It should also be kept in mind that taken together, these groups of voters total 400 out of ICM’s sample of 1,470. The over-65 subgroup, in which the Tories have a commanding lead of 64% to 20%, nearly matches them alone with 392 out of the sample." Expand 36% is a shocking amount of unskilled workers voting tory - what the fuck do they think they'll do for them? It's like those fuckers in the US rust belt voting convfefe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6479 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 12:09, NJS said: 36% is a shocking amount of unskilled workers voting tory - what the fuck do they think they'll do for them? It's like those fuckers in the US rust belt voting convfefe. Expand They're worse than the US ones. The US ones could at least claim that Hillary would have done fuck all for them as well (since her campaign had nothing to do with their issues). These people can't claim that about Corbyn. Actively voting against their interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34276 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 No chance. It takes days of prep. She'd rather visit pre-vetted audiences around the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37833 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 12:10, Rayvin said: They're worse than the US ones. The US ones could at least claim that Hillary would have done fuck all for them as well (since her campaign had nothing to do with their issues). These people can't claim that about Corbyn. Actively voting against their interests. Expand But immigrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34276 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) On 31/05/2017 at 12:03, Rayvin said: Anyone know how good Amber Rudd is at debating? Expand Doesn't matter too much, it's just going be an hour of calling May a chicken. Edited May 31, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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