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[Tom 14469]

 

 

 

 

[ewerk 34727]

6 minutes ago, Craig said:

I'll say this for sure, if that was against us I'd be screaming for a red card. I agree with LondonBlue on this - it was going away from goal because Henderson pushed it that way. How VAR came to the decision that it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity is for them to explain. 
 

Not for me, Clive. If you look at Haaland’s foot just before the keeper touches it and the angle of his run then he’s clearly going to take the ball wide rather than through on goal. Plus there were two Palace defenders covering had done that.

[LondonBlue 1078]

6 minutes ago, Craig said:

I'll say this for sure, if that was against us I'd be screaming for a red card. I agree with LondonBlue on this - it was going away from goal because Henderson pushed it that way. How VAR came to the decision that it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity is for them to explain. 
 

 

And the VAR assistant was Darren Cann even though back in 2017..... Assistant referee Darren Cann has been axed from Crystal Palace's FA Cup clash with Manchester City after it was revealed he once played for the Eagles. Cann played for Palace in the late 1980s, before ending his playing career and moving into officiating in 1991.

 

guess they forgot again. no wonder city fans think "they're out to get us however they cann"

[ewerk 34727]

5 minutes ago, Tom said:

 

 

 

 

 

Aye, Craig thought that red card was justified too. At least he's consistent in his wrongness.  

[Tom 14469]

If that’s any other game than a cup final they are giving the red. As absurd as that may sound…

[Gemmill 53527]

15 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

Atwell also gave the goal in the Manchester derby. Rashford was flagged offside, moved towards the ball dragging players, but Atwell over ruled it. With an offside rule explanation never heard before or since.

 

That Rashford one was mental. He practically stepped over the ball iirc and clearly impacted the defender's decision making. 

[LondonBlue 1078]

6 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Not for me, Clive. If you look at Haaland’s foot just before the keeper touches it and the angle of his run then he’s clearly going to take the ball wide rather than through on goal. Plus there were two Palace defenders covering had done that.

 

nah he cushions it past the keeper with the outside of his foot.

as soon as henderson slapped it away haaland curves his run to chase it.

if henderson isn't there haaland gets a shot on goal. which is an obvious goal scoring opportunity. 

i'm obviously biased and not over it.

i'll try not to reply when you restate your point as discussing it just winds me up more and i need to calm down. it's done.

 

[LondonBlue 1078]

8 minutes ago, Tom said:

If that’s any other game than a cup final they are giving the red. As absurd as that may sound…

 

if that was at the other end city would have been down to 10 men. 100% convinced of that.

[Toonpack 12427]

Are we saying it's handball because his slap of the ball was outside the verticle imaginary line of the box ? He was bodily inside the box for me but the touch was outside so is that actually a handball ? If it is, they better start booking keepers who kick it out from their hands because they all handle outside the box.

[LondonBlue 1078]

3 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Are we saying it's handball because his slap of the ball was outside the verticle imaginary line of the box ? He was bodily inside the box for me but the touch was outside so is that actually a handball ? If it is, they better start booking keepers who kick it out from their hands because they all handle outside the box.

 

the position of the goalkeepers feet is irrelevant

 

its the location of the ball that matters.

 

the ball was wholly outside the area so had it been seen by the referee in real time it would have been at least a handball.

 

[Toonpack 12427]

20 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

the position of the goalkeepers feet is irrelevant

 

its the location of the ball that matters.

 

the ball was wholly outside the area so had it been seen by the referee in real time it would have been at least a handball.

 

 

If that's the case just about every kick from hands should be a free kick, seen plenty keepers grab the ball from the air stood at the edge of their area too, never seen one given as a free-kick.

 

I have no idea what the rule is btw.

Edited 8 hours ago by Toonpack

[LondonBlue 1078]

3 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

If that's the case just about every kick from hands should be a free kick, seen plenty keepers grab the ball from the air stood at the edge of their area too, never seen one given as a free-kick.

 

I have no idea what the rule is btw.

 

i think they just turn a blind eye to that as there is little in it.

 

 

 

[LondonBlue 1078]

4 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

If that's the case just about every kick from hands should be a free kick, seen plenty keepers grab the ball from the air stood at the edge of their area too, never seen one given as a free-kick.

 

I have no idea what the rule is btw.

 

i'd be curious to know what the furthest distance a keeper has ever gone outside his boxing when kicking out of his hands though. a metre?

[Alex 38171]

The Stan after last Wednesday’s Northumberland Senior Cup win at SJP

 

[Gemmill 53527]

The ball leaves their hands before they kick it. I don't think keepers are routinely running out of the box with the ball still in their hands. 

[Howmanheyman 38474]

7 minutes ago, Alex said:

The Stan after last Wednesday’s Northumberland Senior Cup win at SJP

 

 

I was genuinely looking to see if Mark Gillespie, the often NUFC videoed keeper was there somewhere at the back?

[Alex 38171]

I reckon he might just be a cardboard cutout 

[Toonpack 12427]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

The ball leaves their hands before they kick it. I don't think keepers are routinely running out of the box with the ball still in their hands. 

 

No-one said they run out of the box, they release the ball before kicking it (no shit sherlock!), but it's nigh on always outside the box when they do, just watch for it.

[Craig 7812]

Semantics maybe, but the difference is the keeper is releasing the ball whereas in the incident with Henderson the ball isn't in his possession when he come into contact with it. 

He handled it outside the box which was observed on the replays and the incident was reviewed by VAR. At the very least it's a handball and a free kick to Man City. 

As for it being about the ball or player that's relevant, if it's the goal line and the ball crosses it, it's a goal. Position of the ball, not the player is what's relevant. 

[Toonpack 12427]

13 minutes ago, Craig said:

Semantics maybe, but the difference is the keeper is releasing the ball whereas in the incident with Henderson the ball isn't in his possession when he come into contact with it. 

He handled it outside the box which was observed on the replays and the incident was reviewed by VAR. At the very least it's a handball and a free kick to Man City. 

As for it being about the ball or player that's relevant, if it's the goal line and the ball crosses it, it's a goal. Position of the ball, not the player is what's relevant. 

 

What's the rule though ? If a keeper is in the box but touches the ball (in the air) outside the box, is that handball ? 

[wykikitoon 24127]

2 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

What's the rule though ? If a keeper is in the box but touches the ball (in the air) outside the box, is that handball ? 

Yes

[Craig 7812]

4 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

What's the rule though ? If a keeper is in the box but touches the ball (in the air) outside the box, is that handball ? 

Yes

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[Craig 7812]

Conversely, a goalkeeper is allowed to handle the ball if his feet are outside his box so long as the ball remains with the bounds of the penalty area. 

 

[Andrew 5654]

Liverpool have proper chucked it in since winning the title, 4 losses all season and three have been since the start of April.

 

Salahs given up as well since getting his new contract.

 

Hopefully this all bodes very poorly for them going into next season.