Eddie Howes Dross Relegating Mags vs brighton who I think are still chasing europe?

[Dougle 3864]

1 hour ago, OTF said:

I thought Barnes was pretty good overall, Trippier defensively was good, Burn and Schär were ok as well.

 

Add Tino to that

[Holden McGroin 8057]

3 hours ago, Tom said:

We never get anything at Brighton and things really didn’t fall for us so I’ll take that all day  

 

Awful game, they should have been down to ten men like. How VAR can spend ages on the penalty claims but miss an obvious red card that was AT LEAST a yellow is beyond me.

Just back from the game.  What did you think the red card was for? It’s something I picked up during the match.

[Holden McGroin 8057]

My thoughts from being there..We didn’t deserve to lose that and probably may have deserved to just edge it. 
 

These are a proper bogey team for us so I would have snapped your hand off for a point beforehand. 
 

isak was finding lovely pockets of space when he went to #10.

 

Barnes had a good game as did all the defenders.  Burn was pretty faultless.

 

Tonali had an off day. Willock took up some lovely positions and had some good runs but nothing came off for him.  Hopefully he sharpens up with more minutes. 
 

i genuinely thought they were going to over turn a third penalty in the stadium as the Brighton players were adamant it wasn’t.

 

lots of empty seats in the away end.

 

[wykikitoon 23870]

21 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

My thoughts from being there..We didn’t deserve to lose that and probably may have deserved to just edge it. 
 

These are a proper bogey team for us so I would have snapped your hand off for a point beforehand. 
 

isak was finding lovely pockets of space when he went to #10.

 

Barnes had a good game as did all the defenders.  Burn was pretty faultless.

 

Tonali had an off day. Willock took up some lovely positions and had some good runs but nothing came off for him.  Hopefully he sharpens up with more minutes. 
 

i genuinely thought they were going to over turn a third penalty in the stadium as the Brighton players were adamant it wasn’t.

 

lots of empty seats in the away end.

 

Probably a fair summary.  Frustrating to watch.

[Holden McGroin 8057]

Did Barnes dive for the free kick btw? 

[The Mighty Hog 593]

CN's arse starting to drop in the match report

 

https://archive.is/20250504172125/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/05/04/problem-stalking-newcastles-star-players/

[wykikitoon 23870]

No doubt Spaniel Tits is too.

[wykikitoon 23870]

3 minutes ago, The Mighty Hog said:

CN's arse starting to drop in the match report

 

https://archive.is/20250504172125/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/05/04/problem-stalking-newcastles-star-players/

So Isak slump result's in 5 goal contributions in his last 7 PL games.

[wykikitoon 23870]

According to Hope, Brighton should have had that pen when the player basically leaned onto Tonali and fell over. 

[thebrokendoll 10906]

On 04/05/2025 at 19:58, Holden McGroin said:

 

 

lots of empty seats in the away end.

 

 

really pissed me off seeing that at the time, the odd empty seats here and there you can expect where folk have gone and squeezed in next to a mate. but there was clearly a big block in the top left hand corner visible. can't think of any explanation for that other than the club deciding not to sell them.

the cunts.

[Dr Gloom 24358]

On 04/05/2025 at 20:40, The Mighty Hog said:

CN's arse starting to drop in the match report

 

https://archive.is/20250504172125/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/05/04/problem-stalking-newcastles-star-players/

 

he's clearly been out for a few erdingers with CT 

Edited 5 hours ago by Dr Gloom

[OTF 8765]

On 05/05/2025 at 05:20, Holden McGroin said:

Did Barnes dive for the free kick btw? 

[Craig 7422]

On 04/05/2025 at 14:29, toonotl said:

Fuck off man. What’s that stupid little cunt doing? Thanking the fans for selling him. Wanker.

If this was about Minteh's reaction after he scored, I interpreted it quite differently. I think the Brighton players reaction to him supports that interpretation as well, they're pissed off with him.
 

 

[toonotl 3699]

Are you saying that your interpretation is the same as that Spurs supporters? Not that I really care at all at his point three days after the fact, but I don't think that's what Minteh was saying at all.

 

I can't watch that video because it's geo-blocked but from memory he does three things. 1. He makes a prayer gesture, which I interpreted as "giving thanks" or being "grateful" in an ironic sense to Newcastle for selling him. 2. He then does the ridiculously overused "my house" pointing at the ground gesture, which I interpreted to mean "I'm here now" and I'm a complete wombat. 3. He then kisses his badge adding further credence to the idea that he's completely lost the plot, but which I also interpreted to mean "And I'm happy about being at Brighton and having been sold".

 

I think the whole escapade was incited by the away support getting on his case a couple of times prior to that, the most immediate example being when he caused Tino to roll his ankle.

 

I think his teammates may have been annoyed or more likely concerned that (a) he was inciting the opposition supporters in an incredibly inflammatory way which is never a good idea and (b) he's got caught up in the crowd booing him for his involvement in a few incidents and is clearly not concentrating fully on the game. His teammates may be saying in essence, "Forget about them, play the game".

 

Difference of opinion, of course, and impossible to verify either way. But I really think it's pretty unlikely that he's saying he didn't want to come to Brighton with that celebration. He may have been refusing to celebrate again like previously but I don't think so, I think he's perhaps even lulling the supporters into a sense that he's refusing to celebrate then gone off on them. Or, possibly another alternative, he was refusing to celebrate then the away support gave him more lip and he's turned on them then and there. Like I said, I haven't rewatched it since two days ago but that Spurs supporters idea doesn't jive with my memory of it. He seemed to be very very angry with the Newcastle supporters and not indicating in any way that he didn't want to be at Brighton.

 

Anyway without being able to re-watch it from memory my interpretation at least seems to track with how the three separate gestures might be connected. I don't see how those three gestures can be connected to your interpretation (if that tweet is representative of your interpretation) as a coherent slight against Brighton (not that the celebration made much sense in general).

 

In any case, it doesn't really matter at this point. I don't care what happens in the guys career. He's gone. Who cares. He never played for us and his refusal to celebrate the first time he scored against was strange and unneeded. This celebration was just more of the same in the opposite direction (as far as I could tell). He never built a connection with the support because he never played for us. Seems a little self-important to think otherwise from his perspective. Weird of him to expect that the away support would treat him like one of their own. But, hey, whatever. Each to their own.

[Gemmill 52821]

I think there was two completely opposite things. Firstly he apologised for scoring. I think the away end didn't appreciate it, and then he started pointing at the badge and pointing as if this is his team and kissing the badge.

 

The players were just waving him away cos he was making a cunt of himself. 

[Holden McGroin 8057]

I think he was trying to say he is sorry for scoring but he is here (as in Brighton) now.

[Gemmill 52821]

These fucking Aussies are some verbose motherfuckers. Putting the Fish to shame. 

[OTF 8765]

3 minutes ago, toonotl said:

Are you saying that your interpretation is the same as that Spurs supporters? Not that I really care at all at his point three days after the fact, but I don't think that's what Minteh was saying at all.

 

I can't watch that video because it's geo-blocked but from memory he does three things. 1. He makes a prayer gesture, which I interpreted as "giving thanks" or being "grateful" in an ironic sense to Newcastle for selling him. 2. He then does the ridiculously overused "my house" pointing at the ground gesture, which I interpreted to mean "I'm here now" and I'm a complete wombat. 3. He then kisses his badge adding further credence to the idea that he's completely lost the plot, but which I also interpreted to mean "And I'm happy about being at Brighton and having been sold".

 

I think the whole escapade was incited by the away support getting on his case a couple of times prior to that, the most immediate example being when he caused Tino to roll his ankle.

 

I think his teammates may have been annoyed or more likely concerned that (a) he was inciting the opposition supporters in an incredibly inflammatory way which is never a good idea and (b) he's got caught up in the crowd booing him for his involvement in a few incidents and is clearly not concentrating fully on the game. His teammates may be saying in essence, "Forget about them, play the game".

 

Difference of opinion, of course, and impossible to verify either way. But I really think it's pretty unlikely that he's saying he didn't want to come to Brighton with that celebration. He may have been refusing to celebrate again like previously but I don't think so, I think he's perhaps even lulling the supporters into a sense that he's refusing to celebrate then gone off on them. Or, possibly another alternative, he was refusing to celebrate then the away support gave him more lip and he's turned on them then and there. Like I said, I haven't rewatched it since two days ago but that Spurs supporters idea doesn't jive with my memory of it. He seemed to be very very angry with the Newcastle supporters and not indicating in any way that he didn't want to be at Brighton.

 

Anyway without being able to re-watch it from memory my interpretation at least seems to track with how the three separate gestures might be connected. I don't see how those three gestures can be connected to your interpretation (if that tweet is representative of your interpretation) as a coherent slight against Brighton (not that the celebration made much sense in general).

 

In any case, it doesn't really matter at this point. I don't care what happens in the guys career. He's gone. Who cares. He never played for us and his refusal to celebrate the first time he scored against was strange and unneeded. This celebration was just more of the same in the opposite direction (as far as I could tell). He never built a connection with the support because he never played for us. Seems a little self-important to think otherwise from his perspective. Weird of him to expect that the away support would treat him like one of their own. But, hey, whatever. Each to their own.

 

I don't care but here's my 5000 word dissertation on the matter.

[toonotl 3699]

Just now, Gemmill said:

These fucking Aussies are some verbose motherfuckers. Putting the Fish to shame. 

 

1 minute ago, OTF said:

 

I don't care but here's my 5000 word dissertation on the matter.

 

Fuck the both of ya. How's that?  

[Craig 7422]

8 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I think there was two completely opposite things. Firstly he apologised for scoring. I think the away end didn't appreciate it, and then he started pointing at the badge and pointing as if this is his team and kissing the badge.

 

The players were just waving him away cos he was making a cunt of himself. 

I guess the only one who knew what he was trying to say was him. 

[Gemmill 52821]

Just now, Craig said:

I guess the only one who knew what he was trying to say was him. 

 

And me actually. 

[toonotl 3699]

Just now, Craig said:

I guess the only one who knew what he was trying to say was him. 

 

I think that's definitely the truth.  

[Craig 7422]

Just now, Gemmill said:

 

And me actually. 

As with everything else, the truth will be the opposite of what you hypothesize.

[OTF 8765]

6 minutes ago, toonotl said:

 

 

Fuck the both of ya. How's that?  

[toonotl 3699]

1 minute ago, Craig said:

As with everything else, the truth will be the opposite of what you hypothesize.

 

Based on this evidence, I've amended my opinion to completely agree with Craig. Not that I agreed with Gemmers, but it was close which can't be a good thing.