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  1. Haha i'm loving these Leo ones!
  2. Fair enough, its probs fresher im your memory than mine as there's obviously still some feeling of injustice because it lead to us scoring then penalty. I've had a look on the internet to see if I can find it to refresh my memory but can't find it anywhere... so if anyone can post some pics for comparison then it would be interesting. But yeah both very bad challenges so splitting hairs I suppose even if we do decide on a "winner". I think build can play a part though... If Nolan did that to my skinny noodle legs i'd probs never walk again It's all to do with the circumstances re: the challenge imo. Or at least that's the biggest factor, i.e. studs getting caught in the turf etc. Anyway Andy, I think you're alright and decent crack for what it's worth so I don't want to argue the toss with you too much. I think we're all just pissed off with a thug like De Jong injuring another player intentionally. Especially seeing as he looked the part for us and we haven't got a lot to cheer about. Cheers Alex, yeah I agree there's too much of it at the moment... That Karl henry one at the weekend was shocking too... seriously looked like the opposing player (I forget who it was) had been hit by a car the way he went flying. No way was there any intention to play the ball. I know what you're saying about Ben Arfa, that goal he scored against us showed the class he had, and its a shame for you's and for the league that he's going to miss probably the rest of the season... could have been a great player for you's and the creative spark you need. I notice Pires is training at arsenal at the moment... do you think it would be worth seeing if he could do a job for you's? Wont be the player he once was but certainly has an eye for a killer pass. Haven't seen enough of Pires in recent years but I'd guess he's at the stage in his career where he needs players buzzing around him. Not sure we'd give him that. Yeah me neither tbh, sometimes it sounds like a good idea but in reality their legs have gone and they aren't as hungry anymore.
  3. Fair enough, its probs fresher im your memory than mine as there's obviously still some feeling of injustice because it lead to us scoring then penalty. I've had a look on the internet to see if I can find it to refresh my memory but can't find it anywhere... so if anyone can post some pics for comparison then it would be interesting. But yeah both very bad challenges so splitting hairs I suppose even if we do decide on a "winner". I think build can play a part though... If Nolan did that to my skinny noodle legs i'd probs never walk again It's all to do with the circumstances re: the challenge imo. Or at least that's the biggest factor, i.e. studs getting caught in the turf etc. Anyway Andy, I think you're alright and decent crack for what it's worth so I don't want to argue the toss with you too much. I think we're all just pissed off with a thug like De Jong injuring another player intentionally. Especially seeing as he looked the part for us and we haven't got a lot to cheer about. Cheers Alex, yeah I agree there's too much of it at the moment... That Karl henry one at the weekend was shocking too... seriously looked like the opposing player (I forget who it was) had been hit by a car the way he went flying. No way was there any intention to play the ball. I know what you're saying about Ben Arfa, that goal he scored against us showed the class he had, and its a shame for you's and for the league that he's going to miss probably the rest of the season... could have been a great player for you's and the creative spark you need. I notice Pires is training at arsenal at the moment... do you think it would be worth seeing if he could do a job for you's? Wont be the player he once was but certainly has an eye for a killer pass.
  4. Fair enough, its probs fresher im your memory than mine as there's obviously still some feeling of injustice because it lead to us scoring then penalty. I've had a look on the internet to see if I can find it to refresh my memory but can't find it anywhere... so if anyone can post some pics for comparison then it would be interesting. But yeah both very bad challenges so splitting hairs I suppose even if we do decide on a "winner". I think build can play a part though... If Nolan did that to my skinny noodle legs i'd probs never walk again
  5. Gravesen. Awful tackle that. One of the worst I've seen and completely amazing Bernard wasn't seriously injured. Was a bad tackle no doubt about it but wasn't anywhere near as bad as Nolans tbf Was 100 times worse in my opinion, and from that second our history unravelled, if we'd have won that game, we had a good chance of winning the league and it was 1-1 at the time. I'm sorry but I disagree... the fact Bernard wasnt seriously injured and Anichebe was would certainly point to there being a difference in the challenge... factor in that Anichebe is build like a brick shit house and Bernard isnt would also point to you having to put a fair bit more in to the challenge to seriously injure him. I challenge that... I reckon Anichebe would have been down a damned sight quicker than Bernard here: Bet he doesn't make as mean a crepe either... Haha I love that video!!! Proper laughed my arse off when that happened and just did seeing it again! Fair play to the lad he did take a long time to go down!
  6. Gravesen. Awful tackle that. One of the worst I've seen and completely amazing Bernard wasn't seriously injured. Was a bad tackle no doubt about it but wasn't anywhere near as bad as Nolans tbf Was 100 times worse in my opinion, and from that second our history unravelled, if we'd have won that game, we had a good chance of winning the league and it was 1-1 at the time. I'm sorry but I disagree... the fact Bernard wasnt seriously injured and Anichebe was would certainly point to there being a difference in the challenge... factor in that Anichebe is build like a brick shit house and Bernard isnt would also point to you having to put a fair bit more in to the challenge to seriously injure him.
  7. Come on thats clearly chest to foot if anything!
  8. Gravesen. Awful tackle that. One of the worst I've seen and completely amazing Bernard wasn't seriously injured. Was a bad tackle no doubt about it but wasn't anywhere near as bad as Nolans tbf
  9. It was March or April of the relegation season I think, so about 18 months ago. Not sure how much first team football Anichebe has played since. I think about 6 games before his ankle went again and he's been out ever since (that was about April of this year). Wasn't he in contention for Nigeria's WC squad? Yeah he played from about mid April till end of season (about 6 games), played a couple of friendlies for Nigeria, then got injured, came back just after the start of the season but wasn't fit and has been out ever since.
  10. It was March or April of the relegation season I think, so about 18 months ago. Not sure how much first team football Anichebe has played since. I think about 6 games before his ankle went again and he's been out ever since (that was about April of this year). Wasn't a good day for you was it? Arteta did his knee the same game iirc. Aye dont remind me of that like... him and Jags both done in the same season... plus Yakubu at the very start of it! Nightmare!!!
  11. It was March or April of the relegation season I think, so about 18 months ago. Not sure how much first team football Anichebe has played since. I think about 6 games before his ankle went again and he's been out ever since (that was about April of this year).
  12. Haha no I agree... we'll just agree that his dad's bigger than mine and move one I reckon Aye. Bigger, better looking, more morals, less baggage. Yawn! Sorry did you say something?
  13. Haha no I agree... we'll just agree that his dad's bigger than mine and move one I reckon
  14. You really wanna get in to this debate? Seriously?
  15. I seem to remember Nolan was (rightly) issued with a straight red card for that challenge and was accompanied by a ban. De Jong is available for selection from the next game and will not serve a single minute of suspension for a truly awful tackle. And for what it's worth I don't know one of our fans who were not disgusted by Nolan's challenge on Anichebe let alone defended him so I totally fail to see what point you're making... Well it could be argued that Nolan's 3 match ban wasn't even close to being the punishment he deserved... would a De Jong 3 match ban be enough to satisfy you? I highly doubt it. So the point is valid that Potentially ruining a players career is disgraceful but it happens and NO CLUB including yours is guilt free. The point you fail to recognise is that calling for De Jong's head is massively hypocritical when you own players are less than innocent of this type of thing You're not getting this are you? No one is claiming NUFC ARE guilt free. In that respect how the hell can you call us hypocritical? My own view is that MCFC should cover Ben Arfa's wages and De Jong personally should cover the medical bill for what an independent panel should determine as a disgusting challenge. You're counter to that would be that I wouldn't want the same punishment to have been metered on NUFC and Nolan for the incident you've highlighted. And you couldn't be more wrong. This kind of brutality needs kicking out of the game for good - it isn't about backing individual games or players however if you want to go down that route, let's not forget Gravesen's maiming of Olivier Bernard years ago. Fair enough I stand corrected. I agree the brutality needs to be taken out of the game... to many careers being ruined by such things.
  16. Well actually your right in the most part here... apart from the unknown reason bit, as there is a relevance due to the nature of the injuries sustained.
  17. There's no hypocrasy there as you've more or less pointed or yourself. Nolan's 'challenge' was disgusting. Just about any other player and that 'challenge' would have broken his leg. I'd have no hesitation or objection if he had copped a much more severe ban than he did. Each and every tackle like that in my opinion should be punished severely. Once a precedent is set these sort of brash intentionally physical challenges, courtesy of the penalty suffered, will start to become less and less common. That is in the best interest of the game, the players, the supporters and everyone involved. The FA rule that deems that incidents seen by the referee cannot be revisited is fucking ludicrous as it suggests that referees never get it wrong. As everyone knows that is patently not the case. I agree with what you're saying here... I also think that only giving a 3 match ban for even the most vile of challenges is a disgrace. i think a 10 or 15 match ban should be brought in for challenges that intentionally cause injury to an opposing player
  18. I agree the referee didnt do his job properly... I also think the FA dont do their job properly by handing out significant bans for such things. As for Fellaini... well those elbows of his are a bit of a problem i'll happily admit. But look at his lovely barnet! How can you stay mad at someone with such awesome hair! That's why we love Coloccini. Vs Both good but I think Fellaini wins hand down (elbows up) tbh
  19. Not simple enough for Ketsbaia neither. I'm looking at the tackles as individual incidents. Eaxctly! Glad to see someone making sense on here! Each individual tackle should be looked at on its own merits. Nolan and De Jong deserve the same punishments for each individual tackle. Should De Jong then be further punished for being repeat offender? Yes! Does that minimise the brutality of Nolan's challenge... no! Was Nolan's tackle as bad if not worse than De Jong's? Yes Is that simple enough for you Tuco? I'm struggling to see anyone who is condoning Nolan's challenge. I'm not saying anyone is saying Nolan's challenge wasnt a disgrace, the point i'm making is that its easy to be up in arms about someone doing it to your own player, whilst ignoring your own players guilt in such matters. It just smacks of hypocracy thats all You've just contradicted yourself there tbh. How? I've bolded the bits to make it easier for you. Ok fair play I see what you're saying. My point is more that by calling for De Jong's head you're (i.e. fans not specifically you) are being hypocritial, because by saying things like "Lenghty ban" etc you're ignoring your own "previous" in such matters. The admiting of Nolans own guilt in such matters was an after thought in response to my criticisms It wasn't though. It was hardly in our immediate thoughts since it happened a while ago but I don't know of a single Newcastle fan who didn't think it was a terrible challenge / would have opposed Nolan receiving a lengthy ban. You don't even have a point btw. Fair enough
  20. I agree the referee didnt do his job properly... I also think the FA dont do their job properly by handing out significant bans for such things. As for Fellaini... well those elbows of his are a bit of a problem i'll happily admit. But look at his lovely barnet! How can you stay mad at someone with such awesome hair!
  21. I think that whilst dangerous tackles have no place in the game, its difficult to find sympathy for fans complaing about one of theirs being crocked when they've dished it out themselves in the past. Everyone knows the De Jong Tackle was terrible, and tbh most fans will have a great deal of sympathy for Ben Arfa. Most fans will also hope that the FA do indeed take retrospective action against De Jong. However like i say these tackles wrongly happen and if you dish it out then you can't be too vocal about it when you get it back. Do you think you play for Everton btw? Yes I am Victor Anichebe lol!
  22. Not simple enough for Ketsbaia neither. I'm looking at the tackles as individual incidents. Eaxctly! Glad to see someone making sense on here! Each individual tackle should be looked at on its own merits. Nolan and De Jong deserve the same punishments for each individual tackle. Should De Jong then be further punished for being repeat offender? Yes! Does that minimise the brutality of Nolan's challenge... no! Was Nolan's tackle as bad if not worse than De Jong's? Yes Is that simple enough for you Tuco? I'm struggling to see anyone who is condoning Nolan's challenge. I'm not saying anyone is saying Nolan's challenge wasnt a disgrace, the point i'm making is that its easy to be up in arms about someone doing it to your own player, whilst ignoring your own players guilt in such matters. It just smacks of hypocracy thats all You've just contradicted yourself there tbh. How? I've bolded the bits to make it easier for you. Ok fair play I see what you're saying. My point is more that by calling for De Jong's head you're (i.e. fans not specifically you) are being hypocritial, because by saying things like "Lenghty ban" etc you're ignoring your own "previous" in such matters. The admiting of Nolans own guilt in such matters was an after thought in response to my criticisms
  23. I think that whilst dangerous tackles have no place in the game, its difficult to find sympathy for fans complaing about one of theirs being crocked when they've dished it out themselves in the past. Everyone knows the De Jong Tackle was terrible, and tbh most fans will have a great deal of sympathy for Ben Arfa. Most fans will also hope that the FA do indeed take retrospective action against De Jong. However like i say these tackles wrongly happen and if you dish it out then you can't be too vocal about it when you get it back.
  24. Not simple enough for Ketsbaia neither. I'm looking at the tackles as individual incidents. Eaxctly! Glad to see someone making sense on here! Each individual tackle should be looked at on its own merits. Nolan and De Jong deserve the same punishments for each individual tackle. Should De Jong then be further punished for being repeat offender? Yes! Does that minimise the brutality of Nolan's challenge... no! Was Nolan's tackle as bad if not worse than De Jong's? Yes Is that simple enough for you Tuco? I'm struggling to see anyone who is condoning Nolan's challenge. I'm not saying anyone is saying Nolan's challenge wasnt a disgrace, the point i'm making is that its easy to be up in arms about someone doing it to your own player, whilst ignoring your own players guilt in such matters. It just smacks of hypocracy thats all You've just contradicted yourself there tbh. How? My point is that you might wanna tone down the calls for De Jong's head because your own players arent exactly whiter than white in such matters.
  25. Well apart from the fact I support the team and since the Nolan "challenge" he's only played a handfull of games, then always ends up breaking down with a fucked ankle or knee and is out again for months... the same ankle and knee that Nolan savaged. But yeah i'm sure you know more than me
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