zico martin

Softening the blow had fuck all to do with it, show me one example in the past two years where those slimey fucks showed that they gave a shit about what we think. They've sent their mate out every other day for the past month to say "Andy Carroll is not for sale at any price". They had to do something to save face there if nowt else. And they came out and rubbished Hughton in the press as soon as they'd got shot of him. They play the game, they're just shit at it. would you really expect them to turn down a ridiculous price like £35M though? 8th most expensive player ever lol

i take it this one has no legs then?

be like a new signing

We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window. Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it. Humble pie about what? Nobody wants him sold, but people are rightly concerned. Why do you have to try and lord it over people and insist they eat humble pie? When I say that the time to be smug is on Feb 1, that's not strictly true. What I should say is that while the rest of us choose to be relieved that we kept our best player, knowing what you're like, you won't be able to stop crowing about how you predicted it all and acting the smug prick. And a better time for THAT would be Feb 1st. Although tbh there's never a good time for that sort of shit. So Im smug for being pleased we've YET AGAIN, turned down an offer, but others in this thread who claim the deals being done all along shouldnt eat humble pie on 1st Feb.. What utter fucking TOSH. ASM is right, come 1st Feb, the usual nay sayers will be spouting about how the clubs just waiting til the summer to get more money.....and so it goes on. TIT CT, you're a fuckin pleb man, not so much as Skidders like, but you are talking about selling Carroll in January/August etc, you are talking about WHEN Carroll will be sold. Mate, nothing is as sure as this club will, eventually, lose Carroll and Enrique to one of the top clubs attempting to win the trophies and play in europe, and they will be happy to leave when the penny drops when they realise they have to make this move for their career ambitions. Do you want to know what will help convince them to stay, and build on this "platform he has started" ? Its quite simple man, all Mike Ashley has to do is buy a couple of quality players like Carroll and Enrique to show them that THIS club is trying to go places, this will also correctly bring about a u-turn in attitudes among supporters of the club towards him and his ambitions for the club. It's THAT simple man. Tiote? Ben Arfa? exactly and not too expensive either. so do you think it is possible to put together a team to consistently play in europe and/or the Champions League rummaging around the basement transfer market ? I wouldnt say Tiote nor Barfa were basement bargains...far from it. Clever business. You can assemble a quality squad without spending alot of money if you have a quality scouting network in place and then know how to manage them. That isn't what I asked. And Tiote and Ben Arfa were relatively cheapish buys in todays market. Exactly. Ben Arfa was nearing the end of his contract [heading into his final 12 months], and his disciplinary issues with OM probably devalued his true market value at the time when he effectively talked himself out other feasible options [permanent transfers] were avilable, when Ashley was lurking in the background with a loan offer [minus a concrete 'to buy' figure set in the loan contract] which amounted to Venus Fly Trap [with all the bargaining power in Ashley's court] in waiting. And Tiote is one of those 'chancer' & inexpensive type of signings, a player in development whose attributes [physical attributes & his reading of the play] have made for an immediate impact in the physical & fast paced nature of the top flight. The most comparible signing in the premiership era would be Viera: a peripheral figure at his former club [Milan], but like Tiote made added steel to Wenger's overall football philosophy re. their outfield play, and hence a pivotal signing. Credit goes to the scouting department in this case, but they don't always come off ie. Guppy & Huckerby under KK. It's still an extremely hit & miss transfer policy, to rely on 'chancer' signings. Tiote & Ben Arfa are gifts. We've been the beneficiaries of a combination of good scouting and a volatile/ugly 'player vs club & manager' situation. Players of this ability don't consistently drop into your lap, for next to peanuts in today's market at a highly consistent rate. Even Arsenal/Wenger hunt down & ultimately are prepared to fork out the going rate for those youngsters deemed to be in the top echelon of the talent pool, this why talk of Ashley trying to emulate 'the Arsenal Model' is offensive. But the sort of signings we should be aiming for, you have be prepared to go that extra yard. Instead trolling around for mid-late 20's players in the lower leagues a kid like Delph [identified by KK], under a lengthy contract at Leeds, was exactly the type of emerging & dominating talent we should be trying to sign from the lower divisions. The prospect of a shaft type of move [where a compensation via tribunal ruling was out of the question] wasn't a feasible option. Instead Ashley/Dekka tabled an offer which brought about a reportedly colorful response from Bates. Under the previous regime such signings [ie Jenas] were completed with the upmost of professionalism............ or in the case of Delph [as KK suggested] did Ashley & Dekka purposely underbid for a player in their attempts to push the manager to the periphery of the squad's building plans. Either way it's embarrasing running of the club. common sense which still escapes some people, it would appear. Todays news is gutting and absolutely no surprise at all, tbh Get fucked you silly old cunt, why only turn up on here after the bids been accepted? You fuckin' love it, get fuckin' wankin. aye of course you stupid little arsehole I've always said how going back to the 70's and 80's would be great. We are a selling club again, get used to it. If the club wasn't left in financial ruins by the previous regime then perhaps we'd have coughed up for a better contract for him. oh not now man, please!

does anyone think the bin dippers will be happy with this sale though. Are there many players they couldn't have got for £37M ?

yeah guess you're right actually, i know what not gonna get a replacement other someone utterly embarrassing!

'more than' £35M for Andy Carrol? He really isnt worth half of that is he? Yeah he's our best striker, most passionate and energetic striker, but he's really not world class is he? One minute the talk is getting rid as he was turning into another duncan ferguson and then this happens! I'd be happy if i thought the money would be spend on 3-4 replacement players but as it is I know we're gonna have to hope Best and Ranger can come of age and pretty quickly as well! exciting four hours ahead though?

this really is pretty unbelievable, can the club appeal?

not still there though is it? or am i just blind? hard refresh. CTRL + F5 blindness it is then

not still there though is it? or am i just blind?

trickle would be nice like

was that carroll on the bench? gotta be a good sign shirley?

get in bestie!!!

great stream visually but no sound

good call by the mackems tbf - bastards mind and i hate them all but you cant blame them for that one!

Aye Billy's Boots and the like he'd play like Isegrim for weeks put his magic boots on and he'd get called up to the England team. oh yeah he was class but no 'wheelchair wonder' in ROTR like! despite a life threatening accident which left him in a wheelchair, he still managed to get up on his feet to take free kicks. Because of his splazzy legs he could make the ball do amazing spins and turns in the air before nestling into the back of the net every time!

does roy of the rovers count as that was alway my fave like?

what odds rickjard replacing hodgson after the match tonight?

only skidmark would bring FS into this.... do you reckon he wants to go to Man City, or join his mate at Real Madrid ? my money is on man city for stupid money. on his recent form (6-12 months) I dont think real would think twice about him tbh

Agreed ! I loved every sorry minute of it ! me too well i feared the worst when it started but by the second half there was more laughter in the cinema than anything ive seen before! not sure if the missus enjoyed the 3d breasts as much as me mind but it was great fun!

is it really a true story though?

so i take it any attempt by the usual suspects to corrupt any othe thread gonna be thrown in this prison type thrad here then? cool

agreed So if there was still money, why did we loan a striker and sign an uncontracted left back? are you going to take my bet ie Mike Ashley will never match the league positions of the Halls and Shepherd ? Put up or shut up. Look, you thick cunt, why would I take up that bet? I've never suggested it would happen. You miss the point completely, fucktard, Ashley won't achieve those league positions because he has to clean up the state that Shepherd left. We know the club was in a mess financially, that's why Shepherd started to loan players and sign uncontracted players, yet you criticise Ashley for doing it, when all he's doing is picking up where your man Freddy left off the Halls and Shepherd cleaned up a damn sight bigger "mess" than Ashley has found. As I've pointed out, with figures and statistics to show it. Anyway, well done for admitting Ashley won't match them. Shame you haven't got the balls to bet me. Now fuck off. It doesn't get through does it? How is it an admission? I've never claimed they would in the first place you highly hittable tool. The Halls and Shepherd did clean up a mess, you're right. Ashley is in the process of clearing up a mess. Why do you expect him to do so instantly? thats the basis of my bet lad. The Halls and Shepherd got to 3rd in the premiership in 2 years, from one foot in the 3rd division and bankruptcy and a failed share issue that couldn't even raise 1.25m quid. I bet you that within 5 years, as he's had 3 already, Mike Ashley doesn't even make the top 6 ? Bet me or not ? not wanting to get involved like but the whol football industry is very different now than 20 years ago though isn it? Im sure using stats to sure how much money needs to be spent to get a club into the top 4 would show how much of a harder, and more expensive job Ashley has.

yeah id love a pm too but why cant it be posted then? legal issues??

still waiting for jimbo's telly tbh