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Yes and not once have I let that blind judgement. Read through the posts and you will see that I agree with needing better defenders. He never denies his faults either. I`m pissed off with the attitude towards someone who has helped this club in bigger ways than the odd goal let in. I have previously mentioned in this thread. The Chelsea one that got us into 7th for the intertoto cup and the one that got us from intertoto to UEFA. Also the really good run of form during Souness time. Playing through injury when able and generally respected the club. Do any of you slagging Roeder off think that we can afford to let him go money wise? Not for shit let me tell you. I would understand if we had 4 top 5 defenders in our ranks but wake up we havn`t. IMO if Roeder let Titus go before Carr, Babayoro, Moore or Ramage he would need locking up in a mental institute. Have any of you thought that even if NUFC want rid that they stand to get alot more for him with a longer contract. If Bramble went before Luque and other poor players in our team then our board would be stupid. As someone said earlier in this thread there are far worse players on bigger wages than Bramble in areas with more cover too. Try thinking before you type.

I`m sorry but he is better than Babayaro and Carr. Ramage is too slow. Moore is gone in 6 months. Solano is wasted in RB and needs to be on the wing, Milner proved this against Spurs. Taylor, Huntington and Edgar all look good but need a year or so coming in and out of the team gaining experience. The young players need to learn consistancy first before we can rely on them, Huntington proved this against Brum, Milner against spurs and Zoggy this whole season. If we had alot of money and it was the summer then yes look around for better but as it is he a NUFC player and people need to lay off the abuse. I'd be getting rid of Ramage, Moore, Babayaro and Carr too ideally. And it's not like playing alongside Bramble is going to help the development of the younger players. The opposite will probably be the case. Ideally doesn`t work unless your Chelsea tbh and even they have trouble getting exactly what they want. Thats my point though, we need him. The state in which Souness left the club. Why are people being out of order to a player that knows his mistakes and his faults but wants to play for the club and IS playing for the club. Some of the abuse is OTT IMO. Lets say we don`t manage to get any defenders in this window. Lets say he sees this forum and reads some of this over-reactive shite towards him getting a contract that would probably be half the amount most of the first teamers are on. How is that going to encourage a player and help us. As for the development of the younger players he would help, he`s from the Ipswich academey. Its not like he will be taking them for confidence and concentration classes is it.

That's pretty true tbh. I think the thing with Bramble that forever saves him is that he has all the physical atributes to be a genuinely great defender (and even occasionally shows that), but equally his lack of concentration and incredible ability to make stupid mistakes that give away goals and will probably cost you 10's of points a season. I guess the managers all think "if only we can cut out the mistakes", but if that was going to happen it would have happened by now IMO. On the other hand his goal against Chelsea got us into Europe and the goal against Vent I think kept us in it. Not to mention the purple patch he had under Souness for a run of about 12 games before an injury in the uefa kept us in the prem that year. I have never disputed his lapses cost us or that we need a world class defender but reading through this your a bunch of wankers that don`t spot the countless errors costing points made by a lot of defenders and midfielders not just ours week in week out in all football games. Yes even the likes of JT makes mistakes!! Not like Shambles though!! His mistakes are many and varried, some being farcicle! The difference in price being about £48 million yeah I see your point, lets get FS to get the cheque book out.

I`m sorry but he is better than Babayaro and Carr. Ramage is too slow. Moore is gone in 6 months. Solano is wasted in RB and needs to be on the wing, Milner proved this against Spurs. Taylor, Huntington and Edgar all look good but need a year or so coming in and out of the team gaining experience. The young players need to learn consistancy first before we can rely on them, Huntington proved this against Brum, Milner against spurs and Zoggy this whole season. If we had alot of money and it was the summer then yes look around for better but as it is he a NUFC player and people need to lay off the abuse.

That's pretty true tbh. I think the thing with Bramble that forever saves him is that he has all the physical atributes to be a genuinely great defender (and even occasionally shows that), but equally his lack of concentration and incredible ability to make stupid mistakes that give away goals and will probably cost you 10's of points a season. I guess the managers all think "if only we can cut out the mistakes", but if that was going to happen it would have happened by now IMO. On the other hand his goal against Chelsea got us into Europe and the goal against Vent I think kept us in it. Not to mention the purple patch he had under Souness for a run of about 12 games before an injury in the uefa kept us in the prem that year. I have never disputed his lapses cost us or that we need a world class defender but reading through this your a bunch of wankers that don`t spot the countless errors costing points made by a lot of defenders and midfielders not just ours week in week out in all football games.

Out of it totally the kid,overweight and can't pass piss & wobbles like a weeble Going by the commentaor's mention of names during the plays you'd have thought Pattison wasn't even there, I think his name was mentioned once in the second half. He just hasn't got it! To be fair watching it on TV you would have seen he did more of a defensive job. I think he was asked to double up with Hunty on Chimpbonda and Lennon

Agreed. Even though we might not have the scouting capabilities of Wenger, we can make up the grounds to certain extend by mnay other means. Expand the academy - which is what Roeder has done I believe. Buy promising youngsters (including Arsenal/Man U rejects). Well I bet many of us wouldn't mind Bentley, Pennant, Sidwell etc in our squad. For free, but for cash we havn`t got much of then no I wouldn`t want them. David Jones cost Derby a million. Paul McShane was a pawn in a deal to transfer Kuszczak to Man U. Jonathan Spector cost West Ham 500,000 £. At this rate (cheap) it would be mad not to cherry pick a few youngsters unwanted by Man U and Arsenal. We are a bigger enough club, well in our eyes to find our own Youth. We really shouldn`t waste time and money getting young players off other clubs. We should spend more looking on our own doorstep.

Agreed. Even though we might not have the scouting capabilities of Wenger, we can make up the grounds to certain extend by mnay other means. Expand the academy - which is what Roeder has done I believe. Buy promising youngsters (including Arsenal/Man U rejects). Well I bet many of us wouldn't mind Bentley, Pennant, Sidwell etc in our squad. For free, but for cash we havn`t got much of then no I wouldn`t want them.

I don`t understand why you have written gloat in your post ? Are you gloating ? If so about what ?

So is that the base or is the cheesy bit ginger and choc chip? Made the base with ginger snaps instead of digestives, and folded chocolate chips into the normal topping. Yum.. Now that sounds good. More birds should do chick stuff like cooking. I don't know what's wrong with me. I was hand-washing the cashmere jumper at 6.30 this morning. Have I woken up in the 1950's? I'll be making broth next Don't forget to blow the milkman when he calls... I don't have a milkman KCG - I haven't made broth for ages, but yeah I make it by boiling a ham shank (no wanking jokes please) til it's falling to bits then using the stock as the base for the broth with loads of veggies. If I could be arsed to go to Tesco I'd give it a bash but I can't The misses is making a broth/soup today, a recipe from her mum in Scotland. Uses Chicken Stock cubes and adds shed loads of veg. I never have any though, I don`t like drinking food.

Sorry but I can`t stand people vandalisling other peoples property, not that i wish death on anyone, well apart from Souness once.

Quality thread

Red wine with meals and vodka or brandy when im out.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear that and wouldn't have posted it if I thought there was much chance of a board member knowing a victim. I feel prettyu bad now - lesson learned I think. I hav`nt taken it personally, I joke about other things not close to home but just letting people know they weren`t bad girls like your usual addicts.

Nice one, I will let my daughter know how funny you find her Aunties death. I know all the jokes start with anything like this but this ones not really that funny tbh. I never knew Anette was a pro and as far as I know its a very recent thing. My brother also went to college with Gemma, she comes from a very well off family, another one who isn`t your stereotypical pro, just got in with the wrong crowd.

why? Well whos he talking to and whats he talking about? Simple really.

Can someone translate that for me?

Yeah thats shite isn`t it. Looks like I won`t be replacing that for a while.

To live for ever at my current age. To win a euro lottery roll over - buy NUFC To prove religion/god exists or doesn`t.

Failing that, just get a nice plain black one, or plaid one, and spray-paint 'cunt' on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCQ1vSj4-Mc

Do you work in an office? http://www.shoutfile.com/v/Yy3JF6P9/Sexual...ssment_amp;_You http://www.shoutfile.com/v/8exTAvXv/Darth_..._Is_Being_Funny

Daleks, Cybermen and the Master from Dr Who. Freddie becasue he got you in your dreams.

Buy a frost free one

I have kids so mine go up on the first Sunday of December. Not blaming them entirely, I do like christmas. I just have a large tree with a few bits around the house.