Rayvin

What the fuck was that rap battle man The takeover could be declared dead tomorrow by all involved parties and it still wouldn't mean he was right about anything as everything he has ever said has been evidence free speculative nonsense. But aye, let's double down on our "victory" with a rap battle in public. It's like something out of The Office.

I'm not intending to change anything I've been doing because I have absolutely no trust in the government on any level and have seen no convincing data to make me think this is anything other than a political stunt that will cost lives. But let's hope, for the sake of people's lives, that Johnson has got this right.

Are those numbers for real or did you make them up? EDIT - just saw the date, nvm. I'm so used to bad news on that front that I actually found that fringe believable.

I don't even pay for it now. Haven't had a TV license for about 10 years, don't need one, don't watch it.

I reckon he's running out of steam but I have nothing to base that on.

This. Totally this. I mean I would say this is true of society in general. Put all the cheap and easy left wing social stuff on TV while railroading the most right wing policies past people in the background, and claim that this is somehow 'balanced'. It's fucking genius if it's intentional, and I strongly suspect it is.

I mean, there are youtube stations that cover the same shit which do fine - their mistake is in thinking that their audience is watching or interested in traditional news. The problem I suspect is the traditional news in some form, even GB News, does have to report on things based on some manner of factual reality come what may. On the internet, people can say any old shite without any accountability, meaning that biases can be catered to and bubbles preserved more purely. Sargon has given up on YouTube now and seems to run his own news/blogging site with a team of young Tories - and I'd wager he gets more hits and views than GB News does. But then, he's one of the least impartial people I've seen so nothing he says is going to threaten the views of those who come to watch his stuff. The right don't want free speech or honest and open debate as is abundantly clear from this BLM issue. They just want a safe space to rage against "Marxism", a word they can't define, and "wokeness", a word that they perceive as a threat to them but which isn't. And you know, there are plenty on the left who operate in the same way - but they're the lunatic fringe of the left. And what we're seeing is the increasingly lunatic mainstream of the right, not a fringe.

I like the wildlife documentaries, and some of the historical ones, they do good stuff there. Beyond that though, politically it's useless and entirely beholden to the sitting government. And the right hate everything man. If the BBC wants our support and wants people to stand up for it as it goes, it needs to stand up for itself and others first.

Agreed, he was. My view is that it spawned out of an Internet based culture war that went mainstream but I know that others feel this was just natural progression of overwhelmingly right wing media talking points in general. Trump definitely not the cause.

Christ, now the fuckheads think GB News has a "secretly Marxist agenda". None of them even know a damn thing about Marxism ffs. In fact, recently I've heard these sorts of people actually talk about things that I would consider to be Marxism, as if they're right wing issues. The "working class man" needs to stand up to elite power structures and wrestle the money away from the "woke, marxist" super rich. Utter morons.

I mean, I know. Oddly enough I consider them to be as misinformed in this as I do in other areas. And also oddly enough, that comes down to their lack of evidence. They tend to get worked up about the BBC overrepresenting minorities (15% of employed individuals are BAME and yet only 14.9% of the country is BAME, which is of course a scandal) whereas I tend to get worked up about different things, such as the accuracy or their reporting and general lack of balance. The main reason I say any of this though is that you'd be hard pushed to find many people on here who thought the BBC was a stellar institution. Except Gloom.

Have to say that this broadly fits my worldview that the BBC are running scared of the Tories and that therefore they're a waste of an institution who don't properly and robustly challenge the constant shite that we're subjected to. Why can't we hate both the BBC and the Tories?

Right there with you on that. Utterly shameful what this country has allowed itself to become.

Which would be a relevant comparison if Bruce had taken us to a major final only to lose on penalties.

Rashford came on as a sub at least once in the group stages, but I basically think you're right about that particular strategic play unless he had them working on penalties all tournament in training.

Allardyce was the guy in charge before Southgate, you reckon we would have won with him? Or any of the last 4 or 5 England managers?

Agree with this.

Very true. I would maintain that they're a minority overall but clearly they're far more visible than the rest of us.

Once in a lifetime though isn't it

Yeah you don't need all the school level academic stuff, the minimum might be a foundation course to build up to whatever it is that you want to do. I would open up dialogue with a university about it (assuming it's a degree you want of course!) and they'll be able to tell you what hoops might need to be jumped through.

Maybe I'm just not seeing it then, I mean I don't pay that much attention to the upper levels of the PL these days I guess. I wouldn't have said this team has any 'world class' players though, myself. I think they're more a professional and competent unit, than they are a team of superior individuals.

I mean the money is only as high as that because the PL is nuts though. Do any of the England team walk into any other top tier club team elsewhere in Europe? Seriously any of them?

Was just looking around reddit on the football subs and I have to say like, the rest of Europe is -not- taking this well. People fucking hate us Apparently Denmark were the fairytale team of the tournament which doesn't help us, but clearly many people in Europe are just fucking sick of us now. In general. Which I might add, I'm finding fairly amusing... It's just football ffs. And it's not as if the England team don't deserve this.

Aye I'm kinda with you tbh - Newcastle succeeding would mean more to me than this - but I remember watching the semi final of Euro 96 as a kid and being devastated about it, and that part of me is now pretty excited