Rayvin

Asprilla man...Surely elite, world ruling rich wankers who are also paedos is exactly - fucking exactly - what right wing conspiracy theorists should be getting out of bed to shout and scream about..? He's even managed to incorporate pizza. It literally is pizzagate ffs. What more could you want?? He doesn't even sweat ffs. You know what else doesn't sweat? Lizards. He's a Lizard person. QAnon was right all along!! How is the right not beside itself right now, he's the walking embodiment of everything they think runs the world. Other than the fact he's not left wing.

Does the US have a cat in hell's chance of extraditing him though?

So this looks like it'll be two new first team signings and we're a third of the way through the month. I think the new owners are doing alright on this front tbh

We're definitely going to have to endure some sort of redemption arc from him when this particular branch of populism dies out. I wonder what that 15 year old version of him would have to say about where he is now. I also kinda wonder who it was that corrupted him.

Labour have not won in my politically aware lifetime, and I have at no point been on the winning side of any democratic exercise. So my pessimism is based on the trials by fire I've experienced within democracy

I can see the logic, especially with the dearth of talent they have, but honestly man they'll just contrive some new bullshit to win next time no matter who is in charge. Arguably the best thing that can happen to the Tories longer term now is that they lose next time and then can blame Labour for ruining their "otherwise flawless" Brexit, but I doubt it'll actually come to that. They'll summon up some manner of short term bullshit for everyone to get excited about, the press will expose the fact that Starmer was once filmed putting the milk in before the water when making a cup of tea, outrage will ensue, and that'll be that.

Surely a good proportion of people saying he's still an asset are Labour voters wanting him to stay because of how useless he is.

Gonna align with Fish and Gemmill on this - given how much of a fuck on signing players seems to be we've done well to get one in early doors. I think most of us would have been happy with 3 in place by end of the window and I still reckon that'll happen. Still also think this team as it presently is can scrap itself into some points in the coming days.

I mean it's par for the course at this point I suppose.

I think I can safely and sincerely agree with that.

I would be interested in seeing the gap between incomes taken and government expenditure on that front. I mean it must be public knowledge to some extent in order for the government itself to be accountable. Governments could absolutely spend the money better, we've seen that with PPE scandals and so on over the last year. You need rules in place to ensure the money isn't given away through intentional corruption (i.e. the Tories) or through poor and unaccountable management (Labour, at least as far as their local councils go). Transparency is very important as a result. I've often thought that a good way of solving this problem would be to bring in private sector consultants who specialise in efficiency/cost savings and pay them a -fair- rate, but incentivise them further by saying that they get a 10% percentage of any savings made over the course of the coming 5 year period or something like that. This means they are encouraged to fix as many problems as possible first time around. Obviously you need to have pushback from the management structure of whatever service you're dealing with to ensure non-financial performance metrics are adhered to, but that would be the give and take you would normally expect. After the 5 years, the service just keeps the lasting benefits. However, full disclaimer, I'm a management consultant who specialises in reducing costs and efficiency, so I would say all of this

Those LIARS! They're just trying to manipulate the system to they can buy players before they have to play Brentford. We should push for a full investigation into this immediately!

I don't think we should let that one worry us too much. We were fairly confident before it and the cup can always throw up results like this. Will feel a lot better if we get a few new players in this week but I doubt we'll see another performance that bad.

I do wonder a bit if all the speculation about signings is eating at the players though. Maybe they're throwing the towel in since they're getting replaced anyway?

Aye fair, need to read the room

He's a bit emotional but that doesn't make him a bad guy or a poor player. Yeah it's not the best sort of behaviour, yeah it might be a concern as time moves on, but let's not start turning on players who are on the team sheet every week. While this sort of stuff isn't great, and neither were his comments about Bruce, he's said and done a lot in the past that make me think he's a solid fella.

Well we're a complete laughing stock so that's me dipping out of comment sections on football for a bit. Can't wait for the tables to turn... and they will.

We had 23 shots, 9 on target. Yeah we didn't play well but for me it feels like if we had a striker playing we would have scored one or two just from those stats. Let's not overreact. Complacency probably was a factor too. Watford won't be the same, we haven't played this badly against other teams. We do urgently need a striker though.

That graphic is absolutely ludicrous to me every time I go through it, it really is utterly mental that we've allowed this to happen.

Interesting points. I'm not totally sold on UBI as a solution either. I think it is a solution insofar as it keeps us in the game (transitional), but it's not a solution in terms of why are we here and what are we aspiring towards. We would need a major reorientation of the way we think about things. Idealistically, I would suggest that we should pivot towards scientific advancement and exploration into space/deeper science/whatever and focus society around progress in those areas rather than individual gains. This obviously sounds very socialist indeed, but at least it's internally consistent within the ideology, more or less. I'm not sure how capitalism can survive so well once we reach this stage since the incredible disparity between rich and poor will eventually lead to a complete breakdown in society - i.e. the disparity gets so large, and the conditions for the none rich get so shit, that the system can't sustain itself. If the state is the worry there though, for you, it could well be that decentralisation comes in and takes a lot of the burden of this, one way or another. Agree on the capitalism versus corporatism point. Agree on the left right suffering point. As I have tried to judge it over the years, I would argue from my end that the right is unwilling to make the individual sacrifices necessary to prevent suffering, and the right would argue that the left is unwilling to push people to resolve their own situations. But I don't think anyone wants people to suffer, no. I think wealth disparity is a problem that needs to be solved. I don't actually mind too much about wealth when we're comparing millionaires and normal people - but billionaires? It's obscene. There's a really good graphic that demonstrates just how obscene it is, which I will link to here. https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/ That looks obscene to me, and like a problem. A problem that will eventually destroy capitalism, I might add.

Mixed economy is a better solution. Socialism needs to be the general underpinning of society for us to reach a point where the vast majority of people are protected and looked after, but you still need to have an incentive to work and try to improve your lot in life to some extent, and I think capitalism therefore has a role to play, subservient to socialist values. Ultimately this is all going to be moot in the end anyway. I'm not sure what capitalism's great plan for the world is once AI and full on automation is in play, but I rather fancy socialism is the thing with the better longterm outcome there.

How can anyone possibly think the Tories are competent with the economy. It boggles my mind, it really does.

Aye we should go for shock and awe. 5 signings by the end of next week.

Great signing, great statement of intent. Really pleased that we're finally going to be a football club again.

Do you think the fact that we're looking only for overseas players at this point means that the board do believe they will be thwarted by domestic clubs in any potential transfers?