Rayvin

I was insufficiently cynical about a lad named Brian who asked us to do a survey on brown rats. Hope that clears it up.

You clearly don't know many Chinese women

Those people don't qualify though, right? Only people born before 1997 qualify for this, so the young people on the streets don't make the cut sadly (well, up to 24 years old). Let's hope they don't come over primed and "grateful" to the Tories though.

Absolutely. But so is freedom of movement across Europe, is all I mean. I agree with them on this but I think it makes them rank hypocrites for all this immigration bullshit.

In fairness to the Brexiteers, from a hypocrisy standpoint, I'm seething about it too.

Did I miss some casual racism from Noelle? There's hardly anything that gets removed on here ffs

Nah, Brian didn't appreciate it last time.

The guy was clear and to the point which overwhelmed my short attention span, so I filled it in Good luck with your research. This one is more like 3 mins for anyone thinking of filling it in.

Same I guess the fact that he's a poor manager doesn't change the fact that he seems like a decent fella.

The Saudis will be far better informed about what is going on than we are though. It's not like they'll be twisting in the wind alongside us, the PL will be sending them updates and letting them know what is going on and what stage we're at. Same for Ashley tbh.

18% possession Have we ever had a half of football with a possession stat that low? That's sub-Pardew even.

All sounds very familiar Having said that I'm not entirely sure that the left wing contingent of the Labour party are the same as the SJW left. I think they're two different factions. He is clearly talking about the SJW left but identity politics weren't a big part of the Corbyn movement. They're insufferable for different reasons ofc, and his overall claims will have some overlap between the two groups I'm sure. And while Lawrence Fox may not be a racist, he's still an unmitigated cunt.

What did you do or say to earn that?

Free transfer direct replacement for Elliot who I assume is out of contract this summer. On the balance sheet it's probably close to identical. I doubt it'll be a sticking point.

So he's a TERF Presumably that's why he went onto Mumsnet's feminist forum, to find some solidarity. People are fucking weird man, what impact could trans people possibly have had on his life that he's so determined to be involved in the discussion?

Wouldn't stop the comment being true

You're so positive and sunny that it overwhelmed my cynicism and I've filled in your damn survey. Well played. Good luck with your studies. EDIT - for anyone else considering it, it'll take you about 2 mins.

I really don't think Ashley has ever cared about the fans enough to be spiteful. He'll just see the money and want out. The liquidity will be of benefit to him. I'm finding it pretty encouraging that he's mostly been totally quiet on this tbh. That US buyer aside, he clearly has no cards to play until the PL make this decision. On that note, surely now is the time for them to do so. Announce it today in the hangover of Liverpool winning the league. If they don't do that, then I can only assume that there is actually some manner of process still in play and this isn't actually the stage managed approval process that it has occasionally looked like.

I know that the easiest way to win them on here is to agree with majority opinion I also know that if you argue long enough people will either stop replying, dig their heels in against all logical sense, strawman you, or brand you a xenophobe I think on that basis I'm fairly well positioned to reflect on the national Brexit debate..!

While issue is live: Winning the argument > all other considerations Once argument is won: Rational self-interest > winning the argument Wonderful.

I mean yes, it's her fault indeed - no arguments there. And as I said, I think Starmer has handled it superbly. Ultimately I've just got pulled into another argument about technicalities of facts on offer here - I guess because I'm a xenophobe.

FFS. Ok Phil, I'm a xenophobe. You got me. Which way is the queue for supporting Brexit and voting Tory?

Fuck off.

And my prejudice is what, exactly? I believe Jews should have a homeland and that Palestine has partial responsibility for the neverending nightmare that the whole situation over there has become. Firing rockets does warrant a response to protect your citizens. I do not believe they "run the world", I do not believe they are "responsible for all the world's problems". I believe America is the answer to both of those, broadly speaking. I would also argue that the Israel/Palestine issue is really Britain's fault anyway. Now that we've established I'm not the cardboard cutout of a radical left winger you so dearly wish I was, can you please fuck off with your strawman arguments?

There were people earlier in this thread discussion who were effectively claiming that Israel had been pulled in out of nowhere for absolutely no reason. The training programs demonstrate quite clearly in my view that this isn't the case. Israel has not necessarily been thrown into this from the position of innocent bystander who was blamed solely because they are Jewish. In effect there are two considerations here: 1 - RLB believes that Israel was involved in this because Jews are behind all the world's evils. 2 - RLB missed an uncited section about Israel training US police because, due to the brutality the state of Israel uses day to day in controlling their land, and the fact that they actually do carry out training programs, this was a believable statement that didn't warrant challenge. In my view, it is far, far more likely to be the second one. Which would of course, not be antisemitic. As I have said earlier, yes, as she isn't a layman but a front bench member of a Labour party mired in antisemitism scandals, she should have known better. She should have been sacked. It was an excellent political move on a number of fronts to sack her. I approve of all of that. But to believe she was being antisemitic you have to believe point 1 above, and with the awareness that Israeli training programs for police in the US do exist, it's not possible to be 100% confident in the statement, and in my view it tends much more probably over to point 2. EDIT - just to head it off before it happens, I'll return to my bold and underlined caveat from earlier posts: I do not believe that Israel taught that training technique in question here, and even if they did it still wouldn't be their fault that the US used it.