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Don't think I can go back to Ashley tbh. At least he has genuinely tried to make this happen but honestly I'm just done. There is no way the established order is ever going to let any other club properly break in and I just don't see the point in watching the same season over and over again anymore.

What would the purpose of exclusivity be if the deal was a lock in no matter what?

He could if the exclusivity has lapsed.

Is it consistent to believe in both God and aliens simultaneously?

Could this not simply be that the PL has tried to stick all of the issues surrounding the takeover on SA as a state (and therefore their leader), and the bid has resisted the notion that he's actually involved personally. This could be the very argument that we predicted would happen ages back. And if the PL is "requesting clarity" then it suggests that they're looking for an ownership structure that doesn't involve him directly in any way. That shouldn't be difficult at all, one would think.

In fairness, that's just sensible rather than telling.

That ruling, no, not surprising. The fact that the PIF didn't seem to know it was about to hit? Yes, that surprised me a bit. It just implies that we're a side issue IMO.

I think the most telling think about this was the news that Saudi's banning of BeIn came as a surprise to the people managing the bid for us. It's tempting for us to look at this and assume that the whole Saudi kingdom is energised around our takeover, but the reality may be that their fuck on with Qatar and other geopolitical considerations may be far more important to them then the takeover of a PL club. We might not be as high up the list as we all wish we were.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jul/23/cybersecurity-at-risk-after-hackers-try-to-sabotage-premier-league-transfer-deal Premier League club hacked mid-transfer deal and only prevented from giving £1m to the hackers by the bank becoming involved. Nailed on this was Charnley falling for a Nigerian Prince email.

Yep, that was really informative. Thanks for sharing.

Jesus. Well I think we can safely assume that the left wingers are not going to calm down and stop criticising Starmer then This party is such a fucking write off now. 4 years of sabotage and infighting await, same as the previous 4 years. Can we not all just fucking concentrate on the fucking Tories?!

I will add for Starmer though, that he's probably the most competent party leader we've seen in either of the two main parties, since Brown. Maybe that'll count for something in a few years. I do think Renton is right to a point, that the landscape will change hugely when all the shit hits the fan. I just worry that people are too entrenched. 'Cutting your nose off to spite your face' should become a national slogan.

The fact that Starmer isn't climbing back above the Tories (or even anywhere near) does indicate that Brexit is a factor in all of this. Culturally, there are two dividing lines in society. Informed versus poor informed, probably about sums it up. Unfortunately the 'informed' vote is split between 4 different parties, and in concentrated areas through the country, making them an inefficient voting bloc. 99% of the uninformed vote sits within a single party, and the voters are spread out far more efficiently. Corbyn was a disaster, but Starmer is going to have considerable challenges with or without the left complaining at him from the sides. He is an out and out Remainer for one thing - firmly on one side of the most toxic issue this country has seen in my lifetime.

Thanks for keeping the place running tbf man. Probably doesn't get said enough.

Congrats Ant I sometimes wonder if this place will run until we're all dead, to be picked over by future generations researching long suffering NUFC fans. I still consider myself a newer member and I've been on here 8 fucking years now Wonder how long it'll go.

I do imagine that there was a deadline but it's hard to believe that the deadline is something that the Saudis would have agreed to if the matter was broadly outside of their control. The PL are taking the piss here of course. Also I think it's quite likely that Ashley is aware that Mauriss is just smoke and mirrors for Qatar. If we're aware, he's almost certainly aware. A bird in the hand, etc.

A potato, made man.

Those messages are pathetic. Especially where she expresses discomfort and he's like "maybe I can fuck the sad feelings out of you" Tories man.

As if he's going to have a say about whether or not he accepts the result, man. You get dictators saying that kind of shit but they legitimise that by having good relationships with the military. Trump hasn't gone out of his way to cosy up to the armed forces as far as i can tell, so he's got no chance of staying in office if he's voted out. It is depressing that the majority of white people want him in power though. I'm going to vaguely hope that's more about him being republican than being Trump, but it's pathetic either way.

I hope they do it It would be the perfect coup de grace for a club that has been battered by its own fans for years, while they labour under the delusion that they're helping it. To see it finally go down in flames at the hands of it's own delusional following would be superbly poetic. "The mags may be the richest club in the world marra, but they're all jealous as fuck that we're a fan owned club, even if we are being relegated out of League Two, in administration, and with our 5th chairman in 6 months coming in following the sexual assault allegations against his predecessor. It's what football is really about, we're showing other clubs the way! FTM!!"

One of the tweet replies in there is asking if this deal falls through, will the Dubai based group that Wraith was organising for be waiting in the wings Wraith fancying himself as the next Stavely by the sounds of it.

That is the most reasonable post I've ever seen you make about Sunderland Sunderland's situation is now so dire, what Essembee says about them is neutral. Fucking hell.

He's definitely reinventing himself as a provocateur here. There's no reason to get suckered into this shit as often as he does otherwise.

At what level of ineptitude does it become nationally urgent for us to remove them from power by force? I'd say that if you'd asked me that 10 years ago, we'd be there or thereabouts. The slow boiling frog perspective is killing us.

Didn't Clinton hit 99% at one point in some models? I'm not convinced but it would be huge in the global pushback against fuckwitted insanity, if Biden wins this.