Rayvin

Exactly. The only reason I'm aware of that this is even an offence is because of the potential for match fixing and inside knowledge to come into play. In the absence of those two things, this is literally just engaging in an action that the rest of us do plenty of times throughout our lives. Yes it's an offence and he should be punished, but that's because of what could end up happening if it's not curtailed quite strongly, not because it is morally wrong in and of itself.

I'm really enjoying seeing Wilson succeed for us and it'll be great to have watched one of our current crop of players surpass a number of players I watched over the years, feels like a healthy sign of progress. One thought on him that interested me recently was that we signed him for £20m in 2020. Based on what he's gone on to have done since, I think we got a really good deal out of that - but if we would have known he'd end up being this prolific back then, what would a fair price have been? (I'm asking this specifically because to simply ask his present value would be affected by his age - back then he was going into his prime).

The only reason I said it tbf

One of my mates' mum knows Murphy's mum. Goes to the same church or something She gives out tickets to the game from time to time, sounds like, dare I say it, a really good family.

Great result, really well done. Dare I say these drubbings are starting to feel routine?

That thread with a welcome committee for all those people from the blog was the warmest welcome this place has ever given anyone as well That is quite literally the best we are capable of.

I almost mentioned this but the reality is I'm in the very dry managerial side of it rather than content decisions. Mind you if HMHM is ever interested I daresay I could look through the old contact book.

Also think this btw.

Aye but after the charade of Chelsea last year and Liverpool's bid to rerun games until they get an outcome they like, I think I'm done with the idea that we need to be playing with a straight bat personally.

It's exactly this like, the idea that people on the dole are living the high life. Crackers tbh. You see the same about prisons - "they've got a ps4 in there, what the fuck is that about?? wish I could sit around all day playing ps4, we're too soft!"

Really sorry to hear this mate - I understand the need to get back into work quickly but I think all I'd say is not to put too much pressure on yourself if you're able, you can only do the best you can. This sort of shit happens - spent 2 years in the wilderness myself and had to move back home for a while. It'll come right.

I think there's a much bigger conversation to be had here that I sort of can't be bothered to get into (shocking, I know) but just to state at minimum that while yes, many people here may well have had to drag themselves out of difficult situations, they were at least equipped with the tools to be able to do so via some combination of their education or emotional maturity. Not everyone is sent into adulthood with this same level of wider competence, and so it quickly gets on top of them and they become hopeless. I would suggest that they're not sat in front of TV all day because they genuinely want to be, it's more likely to be that they're doing it because they simply have no real hope for themselves or their lives. The solution to this in my eyes is investment in local communities, thus providing access to opportunities for self development and upskilling - probably also with a sense of empowering people to believe that they can make a change in and affect the outcomes of their own lives. I think where I struggle with the idea that we just need to stop paying these people money that they then spend on TV subscriptions is that this in itself doesn't solve anything. It just pushes them into greater poverty and probably also more crime. The idea that they all suddenly become motivated to go out and make a go of things is pretty fanciful IMO (and ignores to a large degree the amount of inactivity here that will be caused by legitimate mental health problems). Actually fixing this issue properly would require us to spend even more money on them than we presently do, as part of a focused and widespread initiative likely over the course of many years. At least that's how I see it. NB this is speaking exclusively to this theoretical 'lazy' segment of society. Which I have to say I believe is vanishingly small to begin with.

Should be winning this and also hope we have Joe back now.

I reckon if it's up to a year we just take the hit and crack on. If he really is meant to be some sort of Bruno replacement that we seized upon because he was cheap then it might all more or less work out anyway. My concern would be that he starts agitating for a move back to Milan as soon as his ban is over but I suppose we have to hope this isn't as 'managed' a situation on their end as this appears. The Athletic article suggests Howe is firmly behind him at the moment so hopefully there's no disharmony about it,

Tonali could be in for a longer ban than Fagioli because the latter didn't bet on games he was involved in. NUFC have little material recourse in terms of what we can do with the player short of sacking him, which is both rare and fairly damaging to finances. NUFC have little material recourse in terms of suing Milan although it is possible if we feel that we can demonstrate that they knew. So essentially, however unfair this is, we have to own it.

Sorry I wasn't really talking about Corbyn actually, I should have clarified. I looked at Corbyn's twitter feed and it's entirely Palestine focused other than one tweet right at the start which splits it both ways. I think that indicates he feels he's unable (or is unwilling) to express any support for Israel at all which I fundamentally disagree with. Israel fully deserved compassion and support for what happened to them in a manner that should have been expressed entirely independently from the need to acknowledge the suffering of Palestinians. I was talking more about the general sense that the media and certain sides of the debate have run off with this hospital thing because they want Israel to be the villains - and that will be true (I'm going to stress that I actually reserved judgment on it but that's largely because by the time I was aware of it, doubts were already being surfaced) - but the same definitely does happen the other way too. We are all caught in a propaganda war on this and it's really hard to know what to make of it. Reddit is awash with videos of absolutely horrifying scenes at the moment but I find it interesting that these videos are so well made, often with English descriptions of what is unfolding which naturally could be completely removed from reality. I think my views on this whole situation are fairly clear but I am wary of believing everything I'm seeing in all senses now.

We saw similar right at the start of this with the beheading babies narrative too tbf. People swallowed that whole and it's still doing the rounds despite Israel having now stated they have no evidence of it. Everyone leans in on their bias - having said that, hospitals getting hit in campaigns like this isn't unheard of. I recall the Americans hitting Red Cross hospital in Iraq while that was going on - so in that sense I suppose it is easily believable.

That doesn't mean it's not what the Arab world is thinking he might do though. Jordan may well have looked at the way this is going and concluded that he would.

In this situation you would expect at minimum that he would let the club know exactly what was going on, what the deal was, so that they could prepare for it. The fact he has failed to do this is really concerning and I would imagine we have to throw the book at him here tbh.

I would imagine the view will be that if they start taking refugees, Israel pushes harder to kick all Arab peoples out of Palestine and then locks the door behind them.

This story has been some fucking rollercoaster Swings from one extreme to the other every 12 hours.

To be clear, I'm not even "judging" Israeli people for this - I see how they get to this point and I don't doubt for a second that Britain would be sliding the same way under similar circumstances - I'd like to think I wouldn't be, but hell, who knows. I'm really just saying that I'm struggling to see how they get to a more moderate approach from here on their side. The flip side of that is that it's exactly the same for the Palestinians.

This guy is amazing and really sums up for me the fucked up thinking of some of the response to this.

I only actual reference that as relevant because it suggests that even moderate opinion in Israel is turning pro apartheid. This doesn't suggest that things get better if Netanyahu is removed.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/plurality-of-jewish-israelis-want-to-expel-arabs-study-shows/ Almost half of Israelis want to expel Arabs full stop from Israel occupied territories. 79% believe Arabs should be second class citizens if they do remain. A significant number of these people identify as centrist. This continues to feel like it's not a religious conflict to me.