Renton

The SS of the animal world, without a doubt.

Nail on head. 144923[/snapback] Sums up LM exactly. I love his sig too.

I love the fact that he thinks J69's opinion of a footballer is relevant to this discussion. Jesus did cry indeed.

That's actually quite amusing. Still pissed off the Renton bot was a lower number than the Leazes bot in a previous post though!

The one of the cat wearing an SS uniform isn't real - I guess. The first one I think probably is - why wouldn't it be?

Once again you prove you don't read comments made by others - I have already answered Lazarus on a previous post stating that of course I'd shoot someone who was pointing a gun at me or my troops, regardless of age. Once again you are too thick to see this irrelevent to the situation described in this thread though. As for the rest, give ut a rest man, your response was virtually identical to what I predicted. Go and upgrade yourself or something. 144736[/snapback] I think the only thing it proves Renton, is as well as being a left wing, do gooder thick idiot, you are also a cowardly twat for not having the balls to answer Lazarus question. End of. Credibility shot to shreds. What is the point of "debating" with people that can't answer questions ? You aren't up for anything are you ? You go on about "debating", as if you are some sort of intellectual [haha] then can't do it. What a fuckin joke you are man. Wierd...but isn't it you that fell out with HTL too, because you didn't answer his questions and made accusations about him instead ? Wierd too, again, but your response is exactly what I expect from thick do gooder wankers. No balls, no debate, no anything, clueless. 144762[/snapback] Leazes, I used to think you were just a bit thick, now I realise you are a complete moron. Read my post numbered 189 on this thread. Now read the bit in bold on this very post! You really are a an absolute cretin, and every single person here knows it. The only person that doesn't know you are thick is you, because ironically you are too thick to see it. I "fell out" with HTL on several occasions, for various reasons. As you no doubt know, the straw that broke the Camel's back with him is when he likened me to paedophile, for no good reason. Most people, even on the internet, would think that is an insult too far. So in summary, will you just fuck off and at least learn how to read before you spout your shit? No? Then just fuck off full stop then. 144803[/snapback] Renton, I used to think you were just a thick naive do gooder, now I think you are a wanker as well. As I said, it's no problem to me if a do gooder doesn't agree with me, however many there are, when I know I'm right ... at the end of the day, you harp on about "debating" but you only want to "debate" with people who agree with you...fuck knows what you would do if your own safety was threatened, you would shit yourself, that is why you won't answer Laz's question directly. I can just imagine you now, thinking to yourself "he can't disagree with me, I'm intelligent, why doesn't he understand .. boo fuckin hoo". You still don't answer Lazarus post. Arseholes like you ... that think you know everything, but know fuck all. You waffle on about Iraq, asylum seekers, "rights"...you are clueless. Totally clueless. I think you should stick your face back into your Guardian after wiping your arse with it first. Wierd - again - but I think you should fuck off and go and learn about the real world before spouting your fancy dan theories about it, and go and debate with some other deluded twat like yourself, that thinks terrorists are lovely little boys who are going to give up bombing this country and killing people, simply because someone like you tells them they are bad little boys. Or let the people trying to find these cunts get on with it rather than screaming about their "rights" - THAT is the actions of a fucking moron. 144807[/snapback] You really are a complete arsehole. I haver answered Laz's question THREE times now (all directly). What more do you fucking want you moron? I'm sorry to all the other users of toontastic, but how can you reason with a man like this? I have taken the liberty of highlighting a few of your cliches btw, just in case anyone was unaware of what a complete stereotype you are. Jesus wept just doesn't quite say it enough, does it. You'll be a character on Little Britain before you know it.

Once again you prove you don't read comments made by others - I have already answered Lazarus on a previous post stating that of course I'd shoot someone who was pointing a gun at me or my troops, regardless of age. Once again you are too thick to see this irrelevent to the situation described in this thread though. As for the rest, give ut a rest man, your response was virtually identical to what I predicted. Go and upgrade yourself or something. 144736[/snapback] I think the only thing it proves Renton, is as well as being a left wing, do gooder thick idiot, you are also a cowardly twat for not having the balls to answer Lazarus question. End of. Credibility shot to shreds. What is the point of "debating" with people that can't answer questions ? You aren't up for anything are you ? You go on about "debating", as if you are some sort of intellectual [haha] then can't do it. What a fuckin joke you are man. Wierd...but isn't it you that fell out with HTL too, because you didn't answer his questions and made accusations about him instead ? Wierd too, again, but your response is exactly what I expect from thick do gooder wankers. No balls, no debate, no anything, clueless. 144762[/snapback] Leazes, I used to think you were just a bit thick, now I realise you are a complete moron. Read my post numbered 189 on this thread. Now read the bit in bold on this very post! You really are a an absolute cretin, and every single person here knows it. The only person that doesn't know you are thick is you, because ironically you are too thick to see it. I "fell out" with HTL on several occasions, for various reasons. As you no doubt know, the straw that broke the Camel's back with him is when he likened me to paedophile, for no good reason. Most people, even on the internet, would think that is an insult too far. So in summary, will you just fuck off and at least learn how to read before you spout your shit? No? Then just fuck off full stop then.

I suspect we don't hear about them all. And just to make it clear for the benefit of people who don't listen (not meaning you), I do appreciate the troops in Iraq are doing a horrendous job and are under intense pressure. It is only the actions of a very small few that I condemn. Oh, and i might add I in no way supprt, condone, or justify the acts of terrorists either, and neither do I think islamic extremists can be reasoned with, just in case any stupid people haven't realised that yet.

Quick Craig, its looks like weve been sussed, its time to implement Renton v1.32 and Leazes 2.1 (agreement module). 144723[/snapback] Actually Renton: Leazes Mag: P.S. This is a joke Leazes before you get your knickers in a twist about me thinking I'm dead clever, which I honestly don't. Compared to you though this relative comparison might be about right.

144724[/snapback] I've already got 6 scarves. Are we getting a Shearer's bar token I wonder?

Once again you prove you don't read comments made by others - I have already answered Lazarus on a previous post stating that of course I'd shoot someone who was pointing a gun at me or my troops, regardless of age. Once again you are too thick to see this irrelevent to the situation described in this thread though. As for the rest, give ut a rest man, your response was virtually identical to what I predicted. Go and upgrade yourself or something.

heres the situation: regular sniper fire and explosions dead bodies are regularly booby-trapped Ambulances are used to smuggle weapons A white flag can be a trick insurgents dress as women anyone with a mobile phone could be about to detonate on roadside bomb driving a hummer is not a show of force , its making yourself a target there is no front line battles are fought house to house many soldiers are on their second or third tour the rules of engagement often change from being extremely strict to being extremely loose drug abuse is a problem among soldiers i could go on. in that evironment - we expect our soldiers to uphold our western values under the most incredible pressure. occasionally, they dont. Could you ? 144731[/snapback] Lazarus, I was referring to the specific story posted by Alex at the start of this thread - the accusation that Marines went on a rampage and deliberately massacred civilians. I've always been referring to that allegation, and I don't see how anyone in the right mind can justify or condone that. I really don't see how the above is relevant in that context.

In an alternate Universe where cats rule the world.....

Give it up, man, or go argue it with the garage wall; at least it might fall down eventually. 144671[/snapback] I know. Expecting Leazes stock response number 3: "You can't debate with terrorists, and you are naive to think you can. The trouble with you lefty do-gooders....... etc"

I'd like to ask Leazes a question Lets say that you are the LT in charge of a squad of men and one evening you meet this person in the street. Do you: 1) shoot at her straight away 2) hesitate for a few seconds etc..... This is more relevant to the incident that is alleged to have happened - hope this helps you understand what relevance is.

Agree exactly. I would shoot without a doubt, but this has no relevance to the subject matter of THIS thread! Which is why I didn't bother answering it before, and why I suspect other people ignored it, and consequently the thread died. It's ironic Leazes that you chased me up over this, because yet again it demonstrates your inability to discern what is and isn't relevant to a discussion. Just like in every other thread I have read from you.

Not knowing you personally has fuck all to do with it, as well you know. I think the fact you don't know who Chemical Ali was proves your ignorance. Especially since you are constantly harping back to the genocidal acts HE was perpretrating to back the invasion of Iraq. Frankly, your debating style is pathetic. Whether it be about this subject or Shepherd, you constantly rely on the same stock-in-trade replies, completely regardless of their relevance. I don't know about you but quite honestly I am bored shitless by it as I suspect other posters have, which is why they don't enter threads featuring you any more. It's a shame I have taken so long to twig on as to what you really are. I've had better debates with AI bots. Farewell.

You think this "war" (again, I think that is the worng term) can be won using bombs and violence? Don't be fucking daft, and read about the history of other powers that have tried to win by doing this. Look at Northern Ireland even. The problem is, how do you identify the enemy? I'm not saying i have the answers, but blowing up everyone because of their religion/colour/place of birth, or deporting them for these reasons, is not the answer, I'm fairly sure.

Only rebellious ones!

It doesn't make sense for England to have the UK anthem representing them. Plus, as has been said, it is a dirge, and I would never sing it because it is basically a song supporting the monarchy, which I despise. I don't like Land of hope and Glory either - it seems to old and stale. My vote would be for Jerusalem, or better still, for a new uplifting anthem to be composed.

possible link ? http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13526901,00.html One thing I'll say for you Renton, is you don't realise how pointless it is to debate with terrorists, just as it is with yourself, believing we don't have a serious problem here, with these incidents escalating all the time the way they are. At least your consistently naive. Have you forgotten already those hijackers being allowed to stay...just one example, only a few weeks ago. Tremendous for the country aren't they ? 144562[/snapback] Have you read that link? What does it add over the other one? Do you know how many people have held under the prevention of terrorism act, only for the police to release them, as they had done fuck all? These people might well have done something wrong, but unlike you, I'm prepared to wait and see. Where have I ever said we should debate with terrorists? Please, tell me. Also, once again, how am I like chemical Ali? I've only asked you six times now. As for the hijacking ruling, I agreed at the time it was a ludicrous decision, along with every person on this board. Please though, can you tell me the relevance to this story? So, as I suspected, there is no point in this thread at all, is there, other than let you have another inarticulate tirade against an enemy you can't or more likely won't even define. Pointless. 144564[/snapback] "Inarticulate tirade"... a typical response from a left wing do-gooder that thinks all these terrorists will be be respond to debate and negotiation. The only thing they understand is the bullet. Pure and simple. I hope you share the same condemnation of the muslim countries who want to ship out all westerners.... If you can't see how these problems are escalating, and accept we need to do something decisive about them, you are blind. 144571[/snapback] Jesus wept. You haven't answered a single point, AGAIN. That's it, I give up. 144573[/snapback] Blimey. Why do I have to spell out everything to people on here [see the thread about Iraq - have you answered the question posed by Lazarus !!! Last time I looked, I was the only one, and still had to spell it out for the dumb yank] Chemical Ali was basically that blind bastard that denied Baghdad was being attacked with rockets exploding all around him. And you think you are intelligent 144577[/snapback] Where did I say I was intelligent? I'm coming to the conclusion that you are a bit thick though. Chemical Ali was the person who gassed thousands of Kurds under Hussein's reign. He was in short a genocidal murderer. This link might help you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2855349.stm Comical Ali was the person who denied Iraq were losing the war despite there being American tanks clearly visible in the distance. It was an obvious pun on Chemical Ali, but the two could not be more different characters (Comical Ali has been freed with no charge). This link might help you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3024046.stm Fancy not knowing the difference. Now you have clearly demonstrated your complete ignorance on these complicated matters, I know that it's not worth debating with you. Thanks for wasting my time.

possible link ? http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13526901,00.html One thing I'll say for you Renton, is you don't realise how pointless it is to debate with terrorists, just as it is with yourself, believing we don't have a serious problem here, with these incidents escalating all the time the way they are. At least your consistently naive. Have you forgotten already those hijackers being allowed to stay...just one example, only a few weeks ago. Tremendous for the country aren't they ? 144562[/snapback] Have you read that link? What does it add over the other one? Do you know how many people have held under the prevention of terrorism act, only for the police to release them, as they had done fuck all? These people might well have done something wrong, but unlike you, I'm prepared to wait and see. Where have I ever said we should debate with terrorists? Please, tell me. Also, once again, how am I like chemical Ali? I've only asked you six times now. As for the hijacking ruling, I agreed at the time it was a ludicrous decision, along with every person on this board. Please though, can you tell me the relevance to this story? So, as I suspected, there is no point in this thread at all, is there, other than let you have another inarticulate tirade against an enemy you can't or more likely won't even define. Pointless. 144564[/snapback] "Inarticulate tirade"... a typical response from a left wing do-gooder that thinks all these terrorists will be be respond to debate and negotiation. The only thing they understand is the bullet. Pure and simple. I hope you share the same condemnation of the muslim countries who want to ship out all westerners.... If you can't see how these problems are escalating, and accept we need to do something decisive about them, you are blind. 144571[/snapback] Jesus wept. You haven't answered a single point, AGAIN. That's it, I give up.

There was intent on Guy Fawkes' part, and most of those terrorists are technically your citizens, not ours; yiz pedantic proddy bastards! 144569[/snapback] Technically, it's the United Kingdom of Britain AND Northern Ireland. So while people from Northern Ireland are UK citizens, they are in fact Irish, but not British. So ner ner.

Northern Ireland, War of the Roses, Guy Fawkes, etc.? 144566[/snapback] Did Guy Fawkes technically blow anyone up 144567[/snapback] Aye. And those oirish bastards aren't british either.

They worked alright in Iraq, right ? No good pretending the technology couldn't be perfected, rather than bury your head in the sand. 144538[/snapback] Theres a diffenece between military dispersal techniques and a couple of nutters trying to put a terrorist weapon together - a bomb blows things up - the chemicals would go with it. This has all the signs of that one where they sent tanks to Heathrow or the one where Old Trafford was "targetted" (no charges ever brought) - absolute propaganda fuelled bullshit. I know there are people out there with the intent to do these things but we all know that your "final solution" to a relatively small problem is to ship out millions of people who happen to cotribute more to Britain than millions of "true" british. 144543[/snapback] "Relatively small problem".....usual left wing head in the sand bollocks 144553[/snapback] Relative to deporting a couple of million people (the majority of whom are citizens) I'd say it was small. 144556[/snapback] "British" people, don't blow other British people up 144563[/snapback] You don't think British people ever murder other British people? What about that psycho who blew up the gay pub in Soho, was he not British? Come on Leazes, be brave, just spit out what you really mean.