Renton

The jokes on the joke tbh.

How long will it be until we get loads of these calls on our mobiles? I already get some.

Was he in the jungle book?

Is the structure of my chromosomes? 107660[/snapback] You need some Xs or you're dead I'm afraid.

Either that or just hang up straight away. Or leave the phone off the hook and go back to what you were doing, even better. I reckon in this case the bloke on the phone was just being incredibly dense, not properly listening to his replies. Stupidity rather than being malicious, but pretty bad nonetheless.

Everybody in Britain minus a few tories, like Blair?

Or subject, tbh.

Me too. Only have to wear it for about 4 meetings a year and weddings, so I'm not going to fork out for a designer one like wor Gemmill.

I should point out maybe that that thing is actually a fair ground ride. You get up to the top of the mountain on a funicular railway much like the one Toonraider posted, except considerably longer I'd imagine.

I'm 2 hours drive from there and I've never been, must recify that next month! Looks like fun, I was on something similar in Germany when I was very young, think it was over the black forest. 107496[/snapback] Mount Tibidabo or something, iirc. Amazing views from the top, where you can see the whole of Barcelona, Monserrat, the Balearics, and the Pyrenees (maybe see your house ). However, if you want to go on one of the rides beware the fairground's not always open - best to go on weekends or holidays I think.

Looks like the one you get up from Barcelona to that fairground place on the mountain. Piece of piss.

Don't be such a scaredy cat, you can do it! You can work your way up from there to flying!

Aye, so the failures say. Passed first time myself but then I'm an ACE driver. I would rebook the test asap if I were you though, sounds like you're good enough to pass no problems and leaving it won't help your confidence. Get straight back in the saddle as they say. 107403[/snapback] I was trying to big up his confidence. To be honest, you do more learning of actual roadcraft after you've passed your test. My brother took about 8 or 9 tests and he does about 60000 miles a year now, no accidents, clean licence. 107411[/snapback] No, I agree. Passing first time or not means little. I passed mine first time but never had the confidence to drive on my own until I absolutely had to (there was a period of maybe 4 years when I hardly drove at all). Now I drive fairly frequently, sometimes quite long distances, never had a scratch. It's all about practice/experience. Mind I still hate driving in rush hour. 107415[/snapback] Me too. I get wound up by the number of RETARDS on the roads. Something tells me you're probably the same yourself. 107421[/snapback] Correct. If I ever do have a crash it will be because of some moron, probably one from Sunderland driving an Echo van. I will be completely innocent, that's for sure. 107427[/snapback] Aye that little shite is still denying liability as well. I have had one crash which was my own fault like, where I drove into the back of some woman. She was partly to blame though because she'd stopped to let some people cross a zebra crossing - I mean WHAT WAS SHE PLAYING AT??? 107430[/snapback] Are you being serious. My wife was hit from behind by some twat when she stopped at a Zebra crossing to let people across. Be frigging scary if that was you.

Aye, so the failures say. Passed first time myself but then I'm an ACE driver. I would rebook the test asap if I were you though, sounds like you're good enough to pass no problems and leaving it won't help your confidence. Get straight back in the saddle as they say. 107403[/snapback] I was trying to big up his confidence. To be honest, you do more learning of actual roadcraft after you've passed your test. My brother took about 8 or 9 tests and he does about 60000 miles a year now, no accidents, clean licence. 107411[/snapback] No, I agree. Passing first time or not means little. I passed mine first time but never had the confidence to drive on my own until I absolutely had to (there was a period of maybe 4 years when I hardly drove at all). Now I drive fairly frequently, sometimes quite long distances, never had a scratch. It's all about practice/experience. Mind I still hate driving in rush hour. 107415[/snapback] Me too. I get wound up by the number of RETARDS on the roads. Something tells me you're probably the same yourself. 107421[/snapback] Correct. If I ever do have a crash it will be because of some moron, probably one from Sunderland driving an Echo van. I will be completely innocent, that's for sure.

Aye, so the failures say. Passed first time myself but then I'm an ACE driver. I would rebook the test asap if I were you though, sounds like you're good enough to pass no problems and leaving it won't help your confidence. Get straight back in the saddle as they say. 107403[/snapback] I was trying to big up his confidence. To be honest, you do more learning of actual roadcraft after you've passed your test. My brother took about 8 or 9 tests and he does about 60000 miles a year now, no accidents, clean licence. 107411[/snapback] No, I agree. Passing first time or not means little. I passed mine first time but never had the confidence to drive on my own until I absolutely had to (there was a period of maybe 4 years when I hardly drove at all). Now I drive fairly frequently, sometimes quite long distances, never had a scratch. It's all about practice/experience. Mind I still hate driving in rush hour.

Yawn. All this talk about who's got the best ISP. We'll be talking about rail routes next.

Aye, so the failures say. Passed first time myself but then I'm an ACE driver. I would rebook the test asap if I were you though, sounds like you're good enough to pass no problems and leaving it won't help your confidence. Get straight back in the saddle as they say.

Well I've taken the piss out of Renton as much as HTL in this one, so NER! 107245[/snapback] Am I part of the clique now then?

Yeah, thanks for the apology HTL. Glad that's sorted.

Bollocks to that! From the way he reacted I can't help but think he's got something to hide! JOKE Renty baby. 107221[/snapback] ;)

I knew this thread would end in tears like.

HTL, don't go on my account. I wrote what I did (about you being banned) because I was genuinely shocked - I think calling someone a paedophile, or even implying it, is pretty low. Having said that, I can see the context why you did it, I admit I was partly trying to wind you up (but also partly just mistaken about something I thought you'd said - which I maintain is not a particular unusual view). Looking back on my post I can see it was inflammatory and wrong. What was worse is I referred to you in the third person when you couldn't reply which I have found from experience always pisses people off. Anyway, as you say, if you apologise for what you said, I will apologise for what I said. I don't want you to get banned or voluntarily stop posting because I probably over-reacted. So I'm sorry, OK? We were both in the wrong, and should just forget about it. I'm not going to say anymore or it'll sound gay. P.S. Ask Gemmill about my hissy fits - I'm nearly as bad as Asprilla's Foreskin when I get going!

Just got up to here reading this thread and my irony meter has gone off the scale. Half the things that HTL advocates (and iirc this includes executing children and publically beating criminals) would fit quite nicely into an extremist state like Iraq that we are "fighting" against. He just can't see it though. 106921[/snapback] Exactly where did that come from, Renton? 107098[/snapback] I thought you were for public flogging. And the hanging of the Bulger killers (who at the age of 10 were children). Sincere apologies if I'm wrong. Mind, a lot of people would agree with that. 107106[/snapback] You're totally fucking wrong in point of fact. It would be good if you took the trouble to make sure you know what you're talking about before you attack someone with an accusation of that kind of thing. I don't recall ever reading a thread about public flogging and for the Bulger killers I'd like to see them locked up for good. How's that? Sounds considerably different to the accusation I want to execute children, for fucks sake. 107134[/snapback] I said I'd apologise if I got it wrong, publically in its own thread if you like. Plenty of people think Venebles and Thompson should have been hung, some on here, I remember this for a fact. If it's not you, then fine. Like I said though, you've over-stepped the mark big time imo, you've made the lowest insult possible without any evidence to back it up. If you can say that and get away with it, then you can say anything. Over to the mods now as far as I'm concerned.

Just got up to here reading this thread and my irony meter has gone off the scale. Half the things that HTL advocates (and iirc this includes executing children and publically beating criminals) would fit quite nicely into an extremist state like Iraq that we are "fighting" against. He just can't see it though. 106921[/snapback] I reckon he is just looking after what he percieves as the best interests of his own country, like most of us. However, unlike a lot of people on here, I don't see how allowing potential terrorists on the streets is a good thing...like it or not we are at war, like we were twice in the last century, just of a different type, against people who want to change the world to one of their liking and take away our freedom, and going by boy scout rules against such bastards and cowards is out of the question 107010[/snapback] I think it goes without saying we all want what is best for the country we live in, I know that I do. It's just some of us believe it is worth protecting what makes our society what it is and don't want us to revert back to medieval "justice" or want a return to "guilty until proven innocent". If we incarcerate people at the will of the state, lock people up for years with no evidence against them, what makes us different to Iraq? The same goes with executing children or beating people in public imo. There seems to be little point in arguing on these points anyway, I have posted on the internet long enough to know the more stubborn among us (and that includes me probably) will never be persuaded we are wrong. However, HTL seems to me to be an extreme case with very black and white viewpoints. These people always worry me, this might sound daft but I believe that the taliban were comprised of similar minded people to some of the more right-wing dogooder bashers you get on these message boards. It's the way some people see the world in black and white, the underlying certainty and fundamentalism of their beliefs. The world is not a simple place and neither are issues, it's right we should debate them in a free society if we want without claims we are loony lefty sandalistas, do-gooders, unpatriotic, or indeed wankers if we do. Anyway, rant over. Like I say I'm not sure I want to get caught up in another of these threads - its got the potential to get ugly. 107030[/snapback] Aye, it certainly has when you portray such total rubbish about me without knowing me. I reckon from your posts you're a paedophile, mate. 107117[/snapback] Fine. Reckon you've over-stepped the mark there personally HTL. You can certainly dish it out, insult people for no reason, but you can't take any criticism, can you? Mods, can we ban HTL for this? Tbh if he stays, I'm going. Yeah, I know that sounds a bit hissy but I'm fucked if I'm standing for this.