Renton

It's already been established that Alex is just an AI algorythm. Manc-mag is just an old fashioned waster in the Gemmill mould I think.

I agree. But I don't know who that manager is. And more importantly, I don't think Shepherd does. 40845[/snapback] Shepherd knows who it is...its Shearer!!! 40847[/snapback] 40848[/snapback] He might be OK actually. I suggested a few weeks back to get his mate Mike Newell in to help him - he's doing wonders at Luton (no doubt I have just jinxed him).

Just basically that Souness was the right man for the job. Fair enough, you specified he needed two years, so specify what a satisfactory finish would be this year (I suggest higher than Robson given the fortune he has spent), and then, if he fails to get it, admit you were wrong. Simple! You're off the hook for another 7 months! I will do likewise. 40814[/snapback] Firstly, I didn't say he was the right man for the job - I said he deserved to be given time to prove one way or the other whether he was or wasn't. And just to clarify: before I admit I'm wrong you want me to make a specific pronouncement that I can be proved wrong for? In other words, you've got nothing that I haven't admitted I was wrong about in the past. I think European qualification through the league is satisfactory. By higher than Robson, do you mean 2nd or 3rd? I think that's unrealistic tbh. 40823[/snapback] Actually, I meant 4th i.e. improving on where we were. Not unreasonable given the funds. For the record, I'm sure I remember you saying words to the effect that he would be good for us - mainly for his disciplinarian skills, but obviously I can't prove this, it being a year ago on a different board. I can't pin you down on being wrong before because you never stated specific aims, that's why I'm doing it now (I think you are saying 6th). But, I would have thought that last years performances and results were so obviously bad that if I were you I'd hold my hands up and at least say it looks like I have got it wrong. Bet you nearly did before we signed Owen. So, that's settled. If we come lower than 6th - Gemmill admits he was wrong. If we get 4th, I admit I was wrong. If we come 5th or 6th, we go into extra time! 40827[/snapback] UEFA Cup qualification would keep me happy, but I'd expect us to push on next season. Is anything outside of the top 4 a sackable offence in your eyes, or would you take that and see how we got on next year? EDIT! PS, I'd say probably 5th rather than 6th. Outside of the established top 3, I think only Liverpool should be good enough to finish above us. If, that is, they get it right - I've got a bet on with a Scouser at work that we'll finish above them though. 40832[/snapback] Anything below 4th wouldn't be acceptable to me, but more importantly it certainly wouldn't be acceptable to Shepherd. Personally I don't think we will get in the top 6 though. I'll be suprised if we do and happy to admit it. Of course, I willl never be able to prove that we would have done better with someone else at the helm - I sincerely believe this though. With our squad and the right manager, 4th should be a piece of piss frankly.

Just basically that Souness was the right man for the job. Fair enough, you specified he needed two years, so specify what a satisfactory finish would be this year (I suggest higher than Robson given the fortune he has spent), and then, if he fails to get it, admit you were wrong. Simple! You're off the hook for another 7 months! I will do likewise. 40814[/snapback] Firstly, I didn't say he was the right man for the job - I said he deserved to be given time to prove one way or the other whether he was or wasn't. And just to clarify: before I admit I'm wrong you want me to make a specific pronouncement that I can be proved wrong for? In other words, you've got nothing that I haven't admitted I was wrong about in the past. I think European qualification through the league is satisfactory. By higher than Robson, do you mean 2nd or 3rd? I think that's unrealistic tbh. 40823[/snapback] Actually, I meant 4th i.e. improving on where we were. Not unreasonable given the funds. For the record, I'm sure I remember you saying words to the effect that he would be good for us - mainly for his disciplinarian skills, but obviously I can't prove this, it being a year ago on a different board. I can't pin you down on being wrong before because you never stated specific aims, that's why I'm doing it now (I think you are saying 6th). But, I would have thought that last years performances and results were so obviously bad that if I were you I'd hold my hands up and at least say it looks like I have got it wrong. Bet you nearly did before we signed Owen. So, that's settled. If we come lower than 6th - Gemmill admits he was wrong. If we get 4th, I admit I was wrong. If we come 5th or 6th, we go into extra time!

Just basically that Souness was the right man for the job. Fair enough, you specified he needed two years, so specify what a satisfactory finish would be this year (I suggest higher than Robson given the fortune he has spent), and then, if he fails to get it, admit you were wrong. Simple! You're off the hook for another 7 months! I will do likewise.

Actually it depends what you're doing. 40803[/snapback] Watching Jade Goody?? Not very big! In fact, hiding!!!!!! 40806[/snapback] Don't know. She'd make a canny bouncy castle.

Imagine Leazes in a pair of rose-tinted aviators, man. 40659[/snapback] Imagine you EVER admitting you are wrong ............ about anything ! Actually, ref the post above, you were raving on about how fantastic Kluivert would be weren't you ?? And whats your excuse for last seasons fall from 5th to 14th ???? Where also is everyone who said Ameobi would be our next international flying centre forward that would score 20 goals ????????????? 40736[/snapback] I never raved about Kluivert like. At least not in the real world - maybe I was doing it in the one in your head though. The one where we signed Anelka etc. The thing that you're constantly accusing me of being wrong about is giving Souness more time. Who's to say I'm wrong? Where was the cut-off point where you were proved right and I was proved wrong? I seem to remember you wittering on about how we'd be relegated if Souness carried on. Looks like you got that one wrong eh? It's easy to be right when you create alternative worlds where Souness fucks everything up and then try and use these "facts" ("Well he would have done that though wouldn't he?") to batter people with. The fact that the events you're going on about never even happened seems largely irrelevant to you. Which is a bit stupid, wouldn't you agree? 40804[/snapback] We did have our worst ever year in the premiership last year - that is a FACT that can't be discounted. But true, you did specify that he should get two years no matter what happens, so I assume you will admit you're wrong if we fail to get into Europe in the league this year (minimum), or even the Champions league. Asides from that, I have never heard you admit you were wrong about anything, ever. So even if we do finish below 5th, I doubt you will admit you were wrong.

Actually it depends what you're doing.

I fucking hate that bint like. What does it say about our society when she is a millionaire/celebrity? 40772[/snapback] Exactly. She makes me want to emigrate. It is "cool" in our soceity to be a fat, ugly, ignorant bint with an IQ in single figures, obviously.

Some excellent and interesting height stats there. Well done. If the average Brit is 5'9'' and the average British Woman is 5'4'' inaccurate and simple sums would put the average bloke at around 6'2'' I think (unless the Guardian is so leftist as to include 'other'). 6 inches off the average is quite short, no? 40748[/snapback] Hold on, maybe those stats include babies and kids (they are citizens, or should I say subjects ). If so, I reckon the average man should be about 7'2" or thereabouts.

True. Any lasses though?

Certainly opened a can of worms though.

Well I think you are. Effectively my circle of friends quadrupled at University - and I was still friends with my mates back home and still am. Of course, I haven't kept in touch with all of them, but the ones that I have are friends for life. It sounds like you haven't made much of an effort tbh, but fair enough if you are happy I suppose.

about average for a woman. 40730[/snapback] The mean height of UK citizens is 1,755.1mm (5ft 9in). Among European men only the Dutch are taller, averaging 1,795mm and with a clear height advantage over the US men's average of 1,760.4. The average British woman is 1,620mm tall (just under 5ft 4in), compared with 1,604mm for her French counterpart, 1,610mm for the Italians and 1,619mm for the Germans. Swedish women average 1,640mm, Dutch 1,650mm and Americans 1,626.7mm Source - The Guardian I'm 6 foot by the way. 40731[/snapback] That's misleading though, as the younger generation are much taller than the older one, and this trend is continuing every year. I would say that 5'8" in a bloke of 20 makes them very short nowadays - almost dwarf stature. I too am 6' btw, which I think is the ideal height - not too tall to look gangly or have psychos picking a fight on you, but tall enough to regard people of 5'8" as dwarves!

When I was at Uni there was a general perception that the students originally from the city (which were very much in the minority then) could be antisocial and tended to miss out socially. With attitudes like that, it's not surprising. Come on, this thread is getting ridiculous. Not all students are as bad as is made out here. Student days are supposed to be the best days of your life, where you spread your wings a little, and have a laugh before the reality of adult responsibility kicks in. I met my wife and many good friends whilst at Uni. But it seems most on here just want the qualification and nothing else, which is a bit sad really.

He's the 3rd best player in the world though, guess who's 1 & 2 40632[/snapback] Arron Hughes must be one of them. 40679[/snapback] He's 4th 40680[/snapback] Musn't bite. Musn't bite..............

And in another parallel Universe Renton is arguing with Gemmill that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, Souness is a decent manager and should be given at least to the end of the year. Edit: beaten to it.

I'm pretty sure that 3 or 4 months after signing Anelka, Souness would have alienated him and forced him to be sold for a giveaway fee, thinking he was a tough guy doing the right thing for the club. And those who supported the signing of Anelka at the time, would have also called him worse than shite and backed Souness for getting rid of a disruptive influence. While watching Souness's "dyer but model professional" © still at the club.... 40566[/snapback] You got your hypothetical crystal ball lensed specs ® on again? 40570[/snapback] but I'm right. And some things are quite easy to predict, providing you don't wear rose tinted specs © that is ! 40575[/snapback] You think you're right, slight difference 40577[/snapback] Does anyone really think a player like Anelka is suddenly going to become a model pro...I mean under an understanding and sympathetic, motivational "manager" like Souness ......... unless you wear rose tinted specs © 40580[/snapback] Does anyone really think there is any point in talking about at what stage Souness would have fallen out with a player he didn't even sign? 40581[/snapback] But in a parallel universe, Souness did do exactly this. My parallel self saw it. 40623[/snapback] Apparently there is an infinite number of parallel universes, in one of them we even win the Premier League. 40631[/snapback] Interesting point, I think you have provided definitive proof that the parallel universe theory is simply too implausible to be true.

But throwing someone out for shouting "nonsense" is an infringement of freedom of speech, wouldn'tyou agree, even if it is a 'storm in a teacup'. Not sure what the relevence of ID cards is to freedom of speech though. 40622[/snapback] Yeah, I agree, but I don't think it has much to do with the Labour party, just some hired goons not engaging their brains. Forget about the ID card, I'm talking shite tbh.

I'm pretty sure that 3 or 4 months after signing Anelka, Souness would have alienated him and forced him to be sold for a giveaway fee, thinking he was a tough guy doing the right thing for the club. And those who supported the signing of Anelka at the time, would have also called him worse than shite and backed Souness for getting rid of a disruptive influence. While watching Souness's "dyer but model professional" © still at the club.... 40566[/snapback] You got your hypothetical crystal ball lensed specs ® on again? 40570[/snapback] but I'm right. And some things are quite easy to predict, providing you don't wear rose tinted specs © that is ! 40575[/snapback] You think you're right, slight difference 40577[/snapback] Does anyone really think a player like Anelka is suddenly going to become a model pro...I mean under an understanding and sympathetic, motivational "manager" like Souness ......... unless you wear rose tinted specs © 40580[/snapback] Does anyone really think there is any point in talking about at what stage Souness would have fallen out with a player he didn't even sign? 40581[/snapback] But in a parallel universe, Souness did do exactly this. My parallel self saw it.

Hey Wacky, if you ever fancy a career change you could always try nursing. I think your understanding, empathetic side shines through. 40602[/snapback] He make a great consultant from my experience. Bedside manner of an SS officer.

The action of over-zelous stewards tbf. Probably bouncers borrowed from Brighton's night club scene. It was disgraceful, but as far as "freedom of speech" goes, it's a storm in a tea cup. Unlike the identity card.

I think that's bollocks personally. To lots of students being a student is taken as an excuse to actively behave like a twat for 3 years. So by definition you're going to come across more twats. 40516[/snapback] I don't think it is bollocks. I've spent 4 years at Newcastle uni where the ones people are going on about tend to be and i never found it to be the case and i also went on nights out to both unis when i wasn't there but had friends who were. 40518[/snapback] Agree with you Papa. In the vast majority of cases, the worst case scenario of a student is being irritating or annoying. In general they are not violent or criminally minded though (other than stealing a few cones), so they don't bother me really.

It's the politically-correct idealists who get on my tits. "You can't say that, someoneorother may take offence" We had this one girl who had a campaign to stop 'slave auctions' (charity events where people auction themselves off as skivvies for the night) and rename them 'helper auctions'. She succeeded. Still, she was easy to wind up. The whole idea of Uni is surely to get some kind of grip of reality yet some emerge even further away than ever. 40506[/snapback] I knew a student "wimmin" once who insisted history should be called personstory. It had never ocurred to me that history was a sexist word before.