Renton
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How sure are you about this? Even yesterday he was positively fuming saying any opposition will face consequences "the world has never seen". What did he mean by that? But also, it doesn't take into account accidental escalation. That's the real threat imo.
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I guess occupation of Ukraine and Russia getting bogged down with a guerrilla war and sanctions. Shit for people of Ukraine (see Meenzer), but seems preferable to Armageddon to me. The red line is him attacking a NATO country, if that happens, yes, even North Macedonia, it's WW3. He knows this so if it happens it proves he is suicidal and wants to take the world with him. Not much we can do in that situation except hope he is taken out from within I guess.
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Because for instance if we intervene with air power and a plane is shot down, that could trigger article 5 of NATO's constitution and ultimately result in full war. Which could escalate to nuclear war. It's fine to have the discussion as long as we know what the consequences are, but htose consequences could literally be the death of all of us. So far no western country wants to risk it. Do you? I'm honestly not sure.
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Let's hope this is the reason. Nothing to be gained for anyone here disturbing the sarcophagus. Iirc during the original disaster Belarus was worse affected than Kiev.
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Hang on in there mate.
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Or just off his rocker. No matter what, things can never go back to normal now. The Ukrainian people will want to join the west more than ever.
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Nice in the United Kingdom this morning (I know!). I'll stop calling it the Ukraine when @Rayvin stops calling Alexander de'Pfeffel Johnson "Boris".
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I'm beginning to think @Rayvin and @Dr Gloom may be right here, we should be offering more militarily, especially in the air. I'm sure a few F22s, F35s or typhoons could reek havoc on these soviet helicopters. I've played enough Advance Wars on my DS to know that. But I'm not sure what we can do without US help here mind. I certainly think we have let the Ukraine down, and whilst I understand the reason, I can't stop feeling our nations should be ashamed. Edit: for @Meenzer's benefit.
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I've had a few memes like this. Given what the French lost in both world wars, its really not true or funny.
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Just listening to this. At 1.45, when he says Putin is accusing them of being nazis, I'm sure he says "utter bullshit".
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Watching the news there, so depressing. Have to say Putin looks positively maniacal. Best hopenhas to be he is taken out from within.
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It's okay lads, we have Boris Churchill leading us to victory.
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Look at the likes going up on that tweet. Arrest the likers too.
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Arrest this cunt for treason. Seriously.
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Wasn't going to be played there anyway. [pedant\]
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This is my take too.
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So that's the Baltic nations and the "stans" left to go? Very much doubt he has the capability to do any of that.
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Yeah, but I'm really not sure the number of troops is relevant. Air and done power will be. You need troops on the ground for occupation, which we don't need. I realise we're all sounding like armchair generals here btw, I'm not even on the Dunning Kruger curve here, I'm just thinking out loud.
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I think we're playing up the Russian's military strength here. After all, the USSR is dead and the Warsaw pact has switched sides, which obviously is what eats Putin up. The Russian economy is less than Italy and the US have been outspending them on defence by magnitudes for decades. That said, NATO is not and never was set up for offensive reasons. It is much more than a match for Russia defensively though.
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Sounds good to me, but I know fuck all how these things work, admittedly.
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He adds: Air support may come I guess. One thing is for certain though is the fog of war means it's impossible for any of us to appraise the situation.
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And here's another fact I never knew, Ukraine has a population of 42 million, the vast majority of which do not want to be occupied. Honestly, I don't know how he could hold onto it?
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What about Ukraine stopping him. An army of 250,000 soldiers with indirect Western support.
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The line in the land is a NATO country man. The treaty would oblige us to act. It's quite an important piece of paper. The idea that Putin is going to roll up to the Brandenburg gate without opposition is silly. It's massively doubtful he can even take Ukraine imo.
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If there is even a 1% chance of the latter happening I don't want to risk it. I would supply Ukraine with anything they ask for, and have a huge crackdown on all Russian assets and people in the West. These cunts will still be out shopping in Harrods today and sending Tarquinesky to Harrow after half term. They can get fucked.
