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Again it depends on the circumstance, some it is, some it isn't (it's manslaughter), both are mentioned above - so you may think you're arguing with Fop, but as usual you're actually arguing with yourself. Logic - and I can see why you stick with property law. Your post no.22. You clearly state that it is assisted suicide when it is not. The bit in brackets that follows is then just gobbledygook/your train of thought where you eventually engage brain and it dawns on you that if the principal act is not a suicide then clearly it can't be classed as an 'assisted suicide' either. Oh and I'm not a property lawyer. Again it depends on the patients views, it's either effective assisted suicide OR effective manslaughter........ This is the problem with your argument technique you see, Fop-you've already changed your basic premise. Now it's 'assisted suicide' or 'effective manslaughter'. It's always a movable feast with you because you argue subjectively, without ever interrogating the logic of what you are saying first. It's incredibly childlike (as borne out by your desperation never to be proved 'wrong') and makes constructive debate impossible. At the end of the day though you only jumped on this thread because you had a problem with Luke's being a doctor. (again).

A man of few words since he first burst onto the forum in September '05. Still with bags of potential at 39; one for the future.

Again it depends on the circumstance, some it is, some it isn't (it's manslaughter), both are mentioned above - so you may think you're arguing with Fop, but as usual you're actually arguing with yourself. Logic - and I can see why you stick with property law. Your post no.22. You clearly state that it is assisted suicide when it is not. The bit in brackets that follows is then just gobbledygook/your train of thought where you eventually engage brain and it dawns on you that if the principal act is not a suicide then clearly it can't be classed as an 'assisted suicide' either. Oh and I'm not a property lawyer.

No I'm just taking issue with you calling it 'assisted suicide' (which you did), when you're conceding that the principal party is not actually committing suicide. Logic.

Hence the argument for effective manslaughter in some cases. Although the real issue is really the whole doing it but pretending not to hypocrisy. No what I mean is that your point is wrong. You said it was 'assisted suicide' but it's not. They don't want to kill themselves, they just don't want to prolong their lives in such a way. I should imagine that there'd be plenty of families hacked off if a loved one's death had been recorded as suicide in the above circumstances. The patient is not committing suicide by refusing medication that will prolong their life and hence the healthcare professional isn't assisting a suicide either. I take your point on the 'real issue' remark though.

How can it be 'assisted suicide' if, for instance, the patient doesn't intentionally want to end their own life?

Surely that would need a superimposed 2J jizzing all over him? Can you sort that for us Pud/Tom?

Come on boffins, I want this resolved before page 3.

The irony is that the Palestinians were persecuted, subjugated and had violence aimed at them for centuries before Israel was born. Of course that's never mentioned now, Palestine was clearly a land of milk and honey before mid-last century. You've got to admire Hamas though, they play the game so very, very well. They set up their safe-houses and weapons dumps next or even in things like schools, hospitals and residential areas, then fire a few rockets at Israel and then just kick back, relax and wait for the massive PR victory that ensues when Israel retaliates. It's pure genius and it would take Israel to basically accept rocket attacks with no retaliation for months or even years to fail (and that is about the only way peace may ever come about there - but it won't happen for obvious reasons). Booooo! Hiss!

and monkeys blood

Cheeses cones? With a 99 flake in presumably?

He could unite both sides in his hatred of J69. Surely find some common ground there.

That one's pretty flattering to the big fat bastard, Tom.

This forum will die a death pretty soon if it doesnt bring peace to Gaza. Or Gazza for that matter; 21 posts in Newcastle Chat and he's still no closer to slaying his demons. For shame.

The middle east problem not solved in one page of General Chat?! Pull your fucking fingers out you twats!

Basically done the fans a massive disservice by being the clubs mouthpiece when what we have needed is someone to hold the club to account and highlight mismanagement. The exact opposite of what he should have been. Fuck off you porridge faced cunt.

The back four would be well composed.

Henry Mancini?

dickhead.

It was the best of times it was the worst of times tbh

We had to laugh as my dad is 1950's serial killer, Ed Gein. © Viz

Are only clique members allowed to know soccermom's true identity? Perhaps soccermom is really Sir Cliff? Could he be a closet toon fan as well as a closet bender?

What's the kick-off between you pair all about then?

Gotta be on the nonce register.