manc-mag

For a solicitor you're pretty crap at debate it has to be said. Honestly, I am going to take that as a compliment.

If you want to pretend my argument has changed or was hysterical that's fine with me, it's what you're trained and paid to do after all. Still doesn't make you right though. Wearing your opponent down with defective reason and italics (for a change). Waste of fucking time tbh. As I said right from the get go...there is absolutely no way either of us can be proved right or wrong. My logic is sound at least. Your "logic" is contrived and based upon a situation where you're least likely to actually see that sort behaviour. Mine is based upon actual events. You yourself state not to go without a solicitor, which really goes to show that either you know the police will have you if they can, or you think Ewerk did whatever he did. Unless you know something I don't about Ewerk, you are basically agree with me, whether you'll ever admit it or not. You are off your tits. You genuinely don't have a clue what youre talking about.

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately they had already picked me up an hour before you posted. I asked them about how the bail would affect my travelling and they said there were no restrictions on it and immigration on the US side wouldn't know anything about it. I didn't take a lawyer with me though to be honest I don't think having one would have been much of a benefit, it was basically as they told me, just a discussion of the incident (which lasted two and a half fucking hours). I seemed to be lucky in getting two sound coppers, they weren't there to trick me or catch me out, they just asked me straight forward questions and were straight down the line with me about what the allegations were and what would happen next. After the tapes had stopped rolling and they were showing me out they did even comment that the whole thing was 'fucking mental' which gives me a bit of confidence in them. I'm back home at the minute and had no plans of returning to Manchester in the forseeable future so that's why I wanted to get it dealt with today though my bail states that I have to return back on the 14th May which I imagine involves me getting a flight the whole way there, turned up to the station, signing something and then getting on a plane again. It was Grey Mare Lane Station in Eastlands, not the classiest joint in the world. Oh and Parky I did have to give a DNA sample as it was a recordable offence I was arrested for and I was told that even when I am cleared it is highly unlikely to be removed from the database, but if I'm doing nothing wrong then I've nothing to worry about. Hope it all gets resolved mate. If you do need any general advice just pm me. Re your bail, you want to get tel. contact details for the officers to find out nearer to the time whether it's actually necessary for you to come back on the 14th (seeing as it'd mean coming over from Ireland?). You don't want a wasted journey. Grey Mare Lane is a shit tip innit?! :lol:I can actually see it from my apartment in fact. Finally, I'm harsh on my profession generally (generally cos I think lawyers tend to be self important arseholes) but I would still say always take a solicitor with you to the police station. If only to know where you stand.

If you want to pretend my argument has changed or was hysterical that's fine with me, it's what you're trained and paid to do after all. Still doesn't make you right though. Wearing your opponent down with defective reason and italics (for a change). Waste of fucking time tbh. As I said right from the get go...there is absolutely no way either of us can be proved right or wrong. My logic is sound at least.

If you want to amend your original opinion to the less hysterical one above then that's fine with me. Saves a pointless argument.

Well you would as that is basically what your profession is about. (although it might just be smelling one you can't win as it is completely true) If you're trying to get a bite off me then you're using the wrong bait there-I'm probably as critical as anyone of my profession. All of your remarks addressing the behaviour of police officers are pure opinion. All of mine are pure opinion. My opinion is more moderate and therefore is probably more likely to be closer to the truth, however as it's just opinion and we can't prove anything one way or another, I'm also correct in saying it's a pointless argument. Not exactly pure opinion, the example I stated occurred (and occurred quite regularly as the female officer in question realised how effective it was). And the fact is in your professional capacity you're not going to see those sort of things (unless the police in question are vastly stupid - which in fairness they probably are these days given the level recruitment is aimed at). I have to say you don't state a case terribly well. At least I don't have to waste time arguing if you're basically going to make the argument for me. By the way the unbolded part isn't evidence to support your argument (all coppers are bent) any more so than it is evidence to support mine (some coppers are bent). You're an utter stranger to logic.

Might I suggest that your opinions would arguably have more cachet if you had the nerve to state what you did for a living.

Well you would as that is basically what your profession is about. (although it might just be smelling one you can't win as it is completely true) If you're trying to get a bite off me then you're using the wrong bait there-I'm probably as critical as anyone of my profession. All of your remarks addressing the behaviour of police officers are pure opinion. All of mine are pure opinion. My opinion is more moderate and therefore is probably more likely to be closer to the truth, however as it's just opinion and we can't prove anything one way or another, I'm also correct in saying it's a pointless argument.

I smell a pointless argument.

Look at the size of her hoop!

Speaking as someone who has had experience of the police as a criminal defence solicitor, I can categroically say they are not as bad as the average scumbag. Like any other area of life, there's a few bad apples.

You don't think Rob actually reads the threads do you? still don't know who the Legal Eagle is on here............... manc mag. Not in this thread, but Jill (Alreetlike) too iirc.

The obligation of a duty solicitor to be available to a suspect as of right within circa 30 mins renders that one a bit toothless tbh. I'd just recommend he says he is happy to come in to assist but say the earliest time he is able to do that due to pre-existing committments is x (date after he returns from USA). The police are used to dealing with flighty, unreliable, dishonest people as a rule, so if you present as reasonable and co-operative they usually dont have problems with arranging a mutually convenient time for interview.

Poontang?

Makes me laugh people are happy to go to room 101 without a brief.... No laughing matter really tbh. Perfectly understandable though if a person hasn't done anything wrong and hasn't had any previous experience of police investigation.

You do want to get off with this right? Kiss my legal plums!

If you're not currently on bail already and they are just trying to get you to come in voluntarily then I'd simply try and arrange the appointment for after you've returned from the States. If the interview was not going to resolve things instantly (ie your word against their's) then you'd almost certainly end up on bail for the meantime and so if you can postpone that situation with the US coming up then it'd be better to do that. Usually the polis are fine and will work around you if you keep them in the loop as they're used to dealing with little twats who constantly skip bail so hopefully you shouldn't have any problems. This is assuming you do have a fair minded and reasonable plod allocated to the case mind. Speaking of which, where do you live at the moment? I only ask as if you're local and you've already mentioned the America trip, you don't want a knock on the Friday morning with them suddenly trying to arrest you then. It's very, very unlikely but not entirely unheard of if you've drawn the short straw and got a vindictive plod with too much time on their hands handling things. If/when you do end up going though make absolutely sure you take a solicitor, mate. Do it by appointment with any local firm. I can recommend if you want. What station is it by the way? Longsight?

Marsh's knockers are like football socks with billiard balls in.

"I'll be able to order him around. Not horrible, just... Skol, could you file this for me? Skol, could you take that for me? Skol could you suck this for me?... Jesus! Where did that come from?" Edit: Completely irrelevant to anything, I know. Completely irrelevant but a brilliant line nonetheless.

Incidentally (on the subject of knockers), I was watching Love Actually last night on ITV 2 and if anyone wants to see Stacey (of Gavin and Stacey)'s chebs it turns out she is the soft porn star playing alongside Martin Freeman's character. Lovely stuff.

You might want to redraft the thread title. Happy Face would have all the info you need but he's 6ft5.

Alex wandering through life with his Farah slacks over his head.

Get to fuck! Wor lass would never touch it again. No changes there then.

Mutton dressed as kebab © Viz

Wouldnt touch her with a stolen dick.