Toonpack

The right wing American "gentle God's" followers say:

Well Jesus probably is the most famous American ever. He gets about a bit

Yep and when they nuke Iran, Jesus will save them

I choose to base my reaction on my established dislike of the Pope, and condemn this statement as not only stupid but also unhelpful and dangerous. In fact the last thing we need. Before people go all Leazes on me I hate all organised religion equally, they are all the problem I might be biased, and in fact I am, but I actually do find islam a particularly reprehensible faith and dislike the socieities it has created immensely. The worst aspect of it is the fact that you cannot crticise it without having a fatwa put on you, but I find it wrong on so many levels. It basically belongs in the dark ages, if there even. Other faiths have their problems but none have led to so many problems as islam imo. All as bad as each other. All as wrong as each other All evil I agree with SB there. I think you are on very dangerous ground once you start saying one is worse than the other. I also think it's inaccurate as Christianity has a very bloody past and you could make a very strong argument that even today you have the example of the very worrying influence the religious right in America has over that countries foreign policy. Thats a very good point alex. The religious right in america is arguably behind the very bloody and violent US foreign policy. Personally I think it's more than "arguably". I'm on a fair number of US forums and there are an awfull lot of them around, some of them are down-right scary, and of the really scary one's, to a man they are GWB devotee's

Nice one Meenzer

Toon Fan therefore injured and cursed by association

Gemmill was a "poster pin up" child

The best thing about missing out on Gravesen is that I don't have to cope with the all mongs who write it Graveson all the time... 186914[/snapback] Graverson has left Celtic without agreement - acording to BBC 186917[/snapback] Gravasan can't sign for them until Petrov goes to Villa. It's still on though. 186921[/snapback] Very possible BBC say

The best thing about missing out on Gravesen is that I don't have to cope with the all mongs who write it Graveson all the time... 186914[/snapback] Graverson has left Celtic without agreement - acording to BBC

Yep be getting the suite - only a B suite here each though - cheapskates and the Limo from the airport and at our disposal blah blah. Seems a NO brainer to go BUT the Mrs............................. 175227[/snapback] Sam's Town? Is that in Old Vegas, off the strip? I just got an access denied message on the work computer because of the gambling link. I've only ever stayed on the strip - proper Vegas tourist. Stayed in a "junior" suite at the Paris hotel once, which was massive, so Christ knows what a proper one's like. Assume a B suite is similar. 175237[/snapback] Couldn't tell you where it is other than in Vegas. They have an A suite, then the B suite is humungous, the BEST one is a Signature Suite which has 2 bedrooms, double humungous Just gotta convince the Mrs

Yep be getting the suite - only a B suite here each though - cheapskates and the Limo from the airport and at our disposal blah blah. Seems a NO brainer to go BUT the Mrs.............................

"They call ME Mr Tibbs"

Hoping to go next year with me buddy, he's considered a high roller and has his own "host" - he goes with a $5,000 budget and just basically plays with it till it's gone BUT he's turned over nearly 1/2 mill dollars in last 5 years) says I won't pay for anything but any gambling I do I'm just trying to persuade the Mrs

One of my best mates (a Yankee) goes to Vegas 3- 4 times a year to gamble and my favourite advice he gave me for when/if I go (sometime) is: "if you sit at a table, look at the other players and find the jerk, and if you can't spot him......it's you - leave"

I love Malcolm in the Middle

2nd to Soldier Blue tbh

Syriana About 6 films in one, all going on at the same time !!!!! Spoiled hugely by having to TRY and explain it every 10 minutes to the Mrs

When I was a lad and worked for Northern Gas we had a customer called: Mr William Ankers weird fucker he was, he used to write in all the time (this was in the days before email and call centre's) and in tiny writting around the whole edge of his envelopes and letters he used to write "eat fruit pips" !?!?!?! If anyone can enlighten me, after all these years, about the benefits of eating fruit pips I will be very gratefull Phone book also used to have a Mr Orville Orange, and my own all time favourite Cmdr W.E. Kitkat Ret'd

Cathedral - Nelson De Mille (not his best but OK) Just finished the Emperor Series of novels by Conn Iggulden, about the life of Julius Ceasar - stunningly good read(s) - Even my youngest (19) devoured them too

Not to kick over a hornets nest, but there's one thing I have to ask in regard to this answer Renton. Is it feasible to expect the person with his finger on the trigger to be entriely certain that the person in his sights is absolutely the right person? Intelligence, such as it is, leaves a lot to be desired and while innocent lives should not be lost, is it actually possible to be a hundred percent certain that you've got the right guy? I agree that simply popping everyone with a beard and a backpack is rediculous, but honestly, it is unimaginably difficult to get sufficient information on a target without them becoming aware and disappearing or, even worse, accelerating whatever plans they have... I think you're shoot to kill but only if you're sure is un-workable in this current clime 149444[/snapback] Too right, the Ramblers Association would be outraged

It was a christmas gift to the lads on there It was just lots of pics of 5 or 6 pretty girlies in their christmas attire having fun 147813[/snapback] That's not what Renton says! 147817[/snapback] Depends on how the girls were getting their fun. 147830[/snapback] PM please, for analysis purposes only obviously

Personally the Government should make a statement that the remains of anyone killed in carrying out, or attempting to carry out, a terrorist act will NOT be returned to their families but will be buried with/in a pigs carcass. That’ll put the 100 virgins off a bit

Why doesn't Israel use their nukes Alex.....whereas other countries in that area will when they get them ? Simple question, I hope you can find a book with the answer As GF says....we are still waiting for you clever guys to come up with a solution, because you don't REALLY think they will negotiate without major concessions...leading to more demands for more concessions... 145071[/snapback] Daft hypothetical question. But I'll answer if you can tell me how you know they'll do that then? Given the other countries you mention would be effectively ensuring their own destruction if they did so. 145072[/snapback] My concern with the whole issue is that, those countries political leadership will think that by destorying Israel and or nuking the west, Allah will take them to heaven. Earthly things like living and breathing and mutually assured destruction are not in the equation. Worryingly, an American friend of mine said, in response to a point I made about the USA using nukes, in an email conversation with me "GWB and this administration doesn't care, they believe Jesus will come and save them" Same problem different fundamentalism

Turkey, they view from Toonpack's hut

It doesn't get ANY better than this Except if it had been on at the pub like