Craig

I told him the answer tbh! 77275[/snapback] Who? You didn't tell me it 77299[/snapback] Chomp

I told him the answer tbh!

What version?

He threatened to leave if they signed David Speedie!

Start > Search *toolbar* ...and see if anything comes up

Can't you fire it up again from the start menu?? Start > Programs > Startup > Microsoft Office Toolbar (or something?)

Fair enough - didn't think it'd be that scummy shit-hole in Blaydon - you can hold a conversation for starters....

It was called St Anselms when I was there, affectionately known as "the Slums". I actually did OK and left with very good grades, but there are loads of people I know who left with bugger all and are bitter about it. I got an A at O level RE for writing essays about how good God was, and memorising a Mark's Gospel off by heart. 77118[/snapback] Which St Thomas More?? Not the one in Blaydon?

I went to the same school as SLP, over 10 years earlier. If he'd said that when I was there he would have been expelled, after being caned. I'm not joking. 77106[/snapback] Jesus fucking wept - whatever happened to freedom of speech? Jesus could have been a raving hom for all we know, but you'd have got expelled on the basis that it doesn't match up with what is in the world's best selling fictional novel... Viz said Elvis shot JFK for fuck's sake, does that mean we'll get arrested if we dare to suggest it was LHO?? (BTW, this is no attack on you Renton, just fucking amazed that a teacher would do that...)

So basically you got detention for daring to have a differing view to what your teacher did? And I thought we lived in a free country?

Nowt like putting words in someone's mouth is there HTL? I never realised failure to answer what you want to hear results in you deciding what my opinions are...

You followed up this childish rubbish with a number of petty snipes in later posts. Does you no credit, Craig. Show me the post(s) where you think I was reading selectively, show me the posts that prompted the childish comments you've been aiming toward me. Anyway, not that I expect you to believe me....I've never said that FS is a great Chairman, so it would seem it is you who reads selectively. Not very long ago I placed a post on the board pointing out how I thought FS is prone to error because he appoints managers for one character trait only, and that this is a reason why we fail. I've also posted a number of times that I think he knows fcuk all about football. Ignored by you, and then the idea I think FS is great is spread around as lies by you in your haste to portray me as believiing something I've never believed in. Good show, mate. As I say, this kind of stuff does you no credit at all. Doh! Seems to me that you make your mind up what someone is posting before you've even read the post. BTW It's not rocket science to come up with the idea a club needs to be properly run from top to bottom to be successful. I think everyone would agree with that, so again, you appear to have made up your mind before you even read a post. I'd be surprised if you were able to find any post from me anywhere that would indicate I think a shit club could be successful. 76759[/snapback] There goes another keyboard.... Do you do short-hand for HTT or is it the other way round?

You've got a bairn on the way though - you'll come home one day and find she's pawned it to buy nappies/formula!

New PMT smiley.....

Can't wait to read Gol's response to that considering the carry on he's just had with Dell... Work recently gave me an HP - not the top of the range, but it's a nifty little thing - well impressed...

Being the übergeek that you are, can't you expand the mod yourself? 76510[/snapback] Like I've got the time to write and test that?

For me only one was completely predictable, with one being likely (Gullit). I do think though that Shepherd seems to have very little knowledge about the game of football (although he is OK on the financial side), and his PR gaffs are the stuff of legends. I was reading in the back of the program how Shepherd likes to help small teams like Mansfield out - right, if you say so Freddie. 76446[/snapback] Predictable or not, he's appointed 4 managers with only SBR being any good. If Souness bought four players and 3 were shit, quite rightly, he'd be getting stick. I've got time for Shepherd as he backs his managers but to suggest that he's only made one mistake, i.e. appoint Souness, is a bit wide of the mark. 76452[/snapback] Even more worryingly, of the ones he has appointed, all of them have won trophies at other clubs and have a successful track record in management. Until they get here. Not saying thats proof conclusive that that's Fat Fred's fault, but I think it's indicative. Personally I think the reason for our underachievement since Shepherd (who it has to be conceded has made (our) cash available to managers) is to do with lack of professionalism. The lack of professionalism at the club starts at the very top with the chairman and permeates down from there. 76472[/snapback] But Souness's track record in management is very poor overall, and anyone who had done any background research into Gullit would have known he was a grade A twat. I think the problems have resulted because of the poor choice in managers. Personally I think Dalglish wasn't given long enough (panic sacked by Shepherd, admittedly), and Robson did have some success (without winning anything), but was ultimately too long in the tooth. Just because Shepherd is a constant in this, does not make him a cause. I have heard the same argument being used against Shearer - which imo is bullshit! 76480[/snapback] It might be oversimplifying things somewhat, but I would characterise pre-Shepherd failure as the result of under-investment and post Shepherd failure as the result of a lack of professionalism. The Hall/Keegan era I discount from that tiemline as I think it was so exceptional and our failure to land the big one then was due to a lack of experience/naivety etc etc. The fans (rightfully) moan about the players attitudes/off field behaviour, but why are we surprised when we see the man at the very top of the pile setting the example he does. When he's not in brothels he's slagging the fans. When he's not coming out with outlandish/disrespectful idiotic PR soundbites he's undermining the manager and buying players himself.....it's just a farce tbh. I watched Liverpool the other night in the FA Cup-one of the best ties I've seen, a brilliant advert for football and a credit to both teams involved. Amazing stuff yet a part of me was gutted because I knew you never see that from our lot. Basically I believe that comeback (and the one in Istanbul last May) all owed to the attitude of the players and the respect/reverence they have for that club. It's not like they have better/more fans or are paid any more than our lot, they just KNOW the standards that apply and that certain performances are unacceptable. I think it's in the fabric of that club-the same applies to Man Ure and Arse. It certainly isnt in ours and as long as the likes of FF are at the apex I cant honestly see why we should expect that to change. 76489[/snapback] I think many nails have been hit right on the head with that post - pretty much sums up how things are. Course two people will argue differently....

They're the same person though aren't they? 76486[/snapback] So I'm led to believe...

I guess we've fuelled this thread up for a good 30+ pages once HTL & LM get reading..... The keyboards those two must get through......

What's the point, you'll only read what you want to read anyway....

What's that supposed to mean? Just answer a question, it's pretty easy. Who identifies the players to bring to the club in order to build a team? 76120[/snapback] The scouts! OK, pedency apart, it's Souness, but then I've never disputed that! Answer this simple one then in return: Who has the final say-so by slapping his signature on the cheque and has the power to say "not on your life am I buying that piece of shit!"? 76361[/snapback] This is something a manager would say should a club have a Chairman who is involved in team affairs when he shouldn't be. 76367[/snapback]

Certain people won't have a wrong word said about Shepherd - never said it was you.... 76362[/snapback] Struggling, I see. 76368[/snapback] Not at all - just can't be arsed re-iterating what I've already said more than once for the benefit of someone who obviously chooses to read selectively....

As I have said in many previous posts, I won't have an opinion of them either way until they've proved themselves one way or another after some time at the club... 76358[/snapback] so you want it both ways.....you really have no right to criticise mate if you only use hindsight, anyone can do that 76360[/snapback] You seem to think that my only problem with Shepherd is the appointment of Souness - wrong! That's your view... I've pointed out his other failings many times in recent weeks - not going there again!

Certain people won't have a wrong word said about Shepherd - never said it was you....

What's that supposed to mean? Just answer a question, it's pretty easy. Who identifies the players to bring to the club in order to build a team? 76120[/snapback] The scouts! OK, pedency apart, it's Souness, but then I've never disputed that! Answer this simple one then in return: Who has the final say-so by slapping his signature on the cheque and has the power to say "not on your life am I buying that piece of shit!"?