The Fish

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you can park at my house if you like? free of charge and if you're nice and buy me a pint some time I might even drive you into to town on the day. See? The Fish ain't all bad.

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I remember the little bottles of milk that you used to get, I remember the beating I avoided from th school bully because I convinced him that we were related (we had the same surname). I remembered getting bollocked for putting out the shed window with a snowball and the teacher got so angry with us she cried. I remember from middle school pushing a kid into the urinal and him sitting in the the thing just bubbling and telling me that he wanted me to get cancer. I remember the various school trips, skiing, camping, museums etc. where we were supposed to be learning things, but instead were more interested in studying the opposite sex. In high school I was bollocked for being cheeky to teachers and the like but no telling off matched that my English class received after we tormented the substitute teacher to the point she quit. School were some of the happiest days of my life when I look back on them, but if you tried to tell me that at the time I'd have though you were mad! It's weird how the friends you made at school.. you think they'll be around forever but it's only when you grow up and are able to choose your friends that you realise only you hung about with the kids in school because they lived locally and you didn't really have much choice. It was either be mates with them or nobody.

it's the whole ethos of the company though. if these complaints were a million miles from my own (limited) experiences I would dismiss them out of hand, but they're jarringly close. anyhoo I'll start looking for a different job, but stay with Weatherseal until I'm squared away with a new position with a company which won't sell their granma for a quick buck.

no mate, I've not exactly been 100% sold on the job from day one... this is just pushing me further from it.

this is confirming some of my fears. like the bloke in the first Weatherseal horror story says, it's a good product but the company is a bit... well.. cowboy. guess it's time to look for a new job.

they've stupid names for the different type of "close" they use on a sale. the Bioss used a line I heard Jonathon Woodgate use when he asked if Newcastles back four had potential "Practise doesn't make perfect, Practise makes permanent" I get a text message from him before every pitch "See the Sale. Gung Ho!" he's a twat

look, for the love of god, I know that I've been "sold to" but I've seen the product and I've seen competitors products and the window we use is better. is it worth the price? I honestly couldn't say.... it's expensive, but when you stand it against more expensive windows it has the same things (locking mechanisms, safety features etc.) for less money. Is it akin to having a £100 bucket for washing your car? Probably. But at the end of the day it's a good window. p.s. I always sounded like this, it's not just windows man.

I rate the window... but I'm becoming less of a fan of the company.

not a sales pitch, just truth. if you could afford a good pc, you wouldn't buy a cheap one. alex you may have been fortunate and discovered the only small glazing company with the same standard product as Everest... but I fucking doubt it. Look, I know salesmen are twats, I have to work with people who get a real buzz from this job and are worryingly mercenary, people who listen to "self help" tapes and murmur mantras to themselves as they get ready to go make a sale. I'm here doing this job because it could be good money for little effort. and I know it's fun and easy to take the piss, but it's only a job and I frankly don't think the majority of people need this standard of window. I do agree that in life, in general, you get what you pay for. Go into things with your eyes open and a degree of caution and you can stop yourself being taken for a ride.

you get one from a small firm and you're paying over the top for a shit product. Fact. so Renton baby, is your set of windows and doors up to Fensa Standard? How many BSI Kite marks does the product have? is the company registered with the GGF? you're talking shite about windows mate, I'm not saying this is a cheap product, never have, what I am saying is that: You Buy Cheap, You Buy Twice. A window that doesn't open, isn't stained and measures 500mm by 500mm from Weatherseal will cost £523 before any discounts. But it is a top spec window, it may (in your opinion) be too exspensive for your average Joe and that's fine, but the people buying these windows recognise the window is worth the price. these "small established" firms are bullshit as well. 85% of them don't last 5years, (surprisingly enough the length of their guarantee) then they fold and begin trading under a new name. They fit substandard windows at a price that is cheaper than ours, Everest and Weru, but still vastly overpriced for their product. I'm not trying to sell you lot windows because you probably don't need them, can't afford them and most importantly don't want them... oh and the Salesman doesn't get half the price of windows in his "skyrocket" he gets at best 20% and is pretty much fucked if he doesn't make a sale. I tell you honestly, a real concern of mine is the current company policy of requiring a signature at the time of the appointment, we are told not to leave until we've a definite Yes or No. I don't see why we can't go back the next day after they've been able to get a couple of quotes and/or read through the contract at their leisure.

I'm not the only person who'd be rooting for the Charv's in this situation, am I? 188179[/snapback]

no experience, no qualifications. just a certain type of personality in the interview. It's Weatherseal, not Paramount by the way.

you're right, it's not cheap, but it's a top spec window. It's only really Everest and Weru that can compete on the product, but obviously Everest have Brand superority so we have to reduce the price of ours just so that we stay competitive. exactly the same set of windows and doors from Everest would add another few grand to the price.

How much commission do you get - 80%? 187895[/snapback] 5% on product and 5% on comission a full set of 7 windows and two doors costs around £10,000

would hjave preferred the dogs dinner to be honest. well, first few days of sales under my belt. Couple of blow outs, a couple of times I got all the way through the demonstration and the punters refused to buy. Sold two sets, but won't get the cash from that until the customer is approved for finance. if they go through I'll have £1,300 and £625 (approx) coming into my bank account, which will please my Bank Manager, if no-one else.

no the food was preeeeety shite to be honest. if anyone is looking to stay in a hotel in Cheshire I would not recommend the Wild Boar Hotel. It's bollocks.

got back from a training course in cheshire which was pretty good, answered a few questions I still had and also provided advice to guide me in the financial world. I start selling on Monday. anxious but pretty buzzing at the same time. as an aside, there was a 50/50 split on the course of upwardly mobile types and people who had clearly gone to the course because it was 5 days in a 3 star hotel all paid for.... you can guess which half I fit into.

why does it not surprise me that the Choir boy has his mouth wide open and looks terrified, while the bishop-y looking fellow as the smug self-satisfied aire of a man about to get his dick sucked?

whey 1st three days of my new job and Have I got some tales to tell you! no, no I haven't. feck all, nowt, nada, nothing to see here... spent most of the time listening to existing reps having their basic training re-affirmed. didn't actually sit in with any sales though, which is a shame.

5-fucking-quid man! I'm just gonna rent DVD's and burn em, like the rest of you leeches

yeah from what little I know about the game it seems that you're a new kid in the Bart Simpson mould of nuaghty kid, you know mischeivious rather than a full-on bully. it seems you've got to stand up to the bullies, do missions for girls you fancy or teachers etc. I'm guessing it's GTA: the School Years and echoing previous points it's the type of game that will have certain people up in arms, when really it fall well within the control of parents to stop the kid playing it.

Miami Vice nice action scenes and some nice shots of pretty cars/boats/planes going fast fuck all else. no where near worth £5.00... robbin bastards and that's WITH a student discount!