The Fish

in that case you're playing a full house on the board, which is different to the situation that was first described. but how about KKKJ10 you hold A7 he holds A6 the best possible hand is KKKAJ for both parties, however in the way I've been taught... you have in your pocket a better hand than your opponent. As such you win. can you see the logic in the way I've been taught?

your point - " the object is to win the other guys money, nothing more" my point "Split pot doesn't win you the other guys money" I KNOW that you make the best five card hand from the 7 available cards, but I'm sure that I was taught that in that particular sitatuion described (where the best hand is identical for two players unless they use both cards in their pocket.) it's not a split pot and instead both players play their pocket cards. if this is a subtle difference in the way we've been taught then that's fine, but I'm so arrogant in this regard to say that you're 100% wrong and I'm !00% right. but rather that I'm pretty certain that the way I've described reduces the number of split pots and therefore stays more true to the idea of Poker... the point you make " the object is to win the other guys money, nothing more" The way I've been taught you win the guys money, your way you split the pot with the other guy.

did you actually see my point fly by you as you launched into that brash staement?

do you cede my point?

quite happy to admit I'm not as confident in this regard as toonpants is, but I will stick to my doubts to his 100% accuracy. it strikes me that his way would create far too many split pots which is against the nature of the game. the way I've been taught reduces split pots... but until I can be arsed to e-mail Devil Fish or the like then by all means take Toonpants adamant statement.

West Wing Smallville the early series of Buffy Band of Brothers Over There- is supposed to be good, a lot of my mates have told me to watch it, but it's on Sky and I'm a pauper at the moment. So I'm recommending it even though I've not actually watched it. 8 Simple rules- recommended in the same way as Two and a Half Men, in that it's shit... I know it's shit, you know it's shit, they know it's shit....but it's easily watchable and there are some genuine laughing-on-the-inside moments

pretty sure I'm right. the rules toonpants presented were General rules and didn't make mention of this, quite particular, scenario. I'm pretty sure I'm right.

not a split pot in a case like this it's the other card in the hand that dictates the winner. in this case the 7 beats the 6, the 8 doesn't come into it. I know that the highest hand available to them is the pair, the ace the nine and the eight but in this case you use the cards in the hand, not the spread.

no, you're a 'king joker

Edit just noticed there are three exmaples... bear with me... A- split pot because they've identical hands two pair 2's and four's plus ace kicker B- Billy wins cos he's got pair of four's with ace, eight, seven to Tony's pair of fours with ace eight six C- Billy wins; he has the best hand, pair of fours, ace high, 9 then 7 tony has pair of fours, ace high, then 9 then 6

Independent Women- Elbow Hounds of Love- Futureheads

it's honestly a British trait that we like to moan to eachother but don't like to "make a scene" which is crazy really. I'm as guilty as everyone else, but we've paid for a service, a meal, a car, an hour and yet if something isn't up to scratch (or in the latter case if something begins to scratch) we won't do anything about it because we're so stigmatised into think ing poorly of those people who do complain.

go into a 3 store, explain the problem, tell them you're furious with the customer service you've received and that you want to cancel your contract with them effective immediately. They'll probably apologise, offer you an upgrade or if you're lucky maybe a month or two without the line rental as an apology. If they offer the latter accept it, but put away the money you would have spent on the line rental and at the end of those two months go back in, pay off the line rental for your remaining months. Keep whatever phone you have at the time, go to an Orange store, tell them you're thinking about changing contract from 3 to Orange, ask them what deal they can give you. They'll ask you what kind of package you were on with three, be honest. They'll try and beat that by offering you a better package (if they have one), a better phone when you sign up or money off your next bill when you trade your old phone in. that's what happened with me. I went from £35 a month with 200 texts and 750 minutes, to a thousand texts and a thousand minutes cross peak, cross network for £30. I switched from one of the first 3G models to a good phone, got £50 creditted to my account so my first bill was paid for and some of my next bill.

it's the squealing that bothers me

when you call, say "I'd like to be put through to a call centre based in England" if he refuses tell him that because of his non-compliance you will burn his village just like your great grand father did.. 173712[/snapback] Are you prince philip? 173744[/snapback] no, I'm rubber and your glue, what ever you say bounces off me and onto you. it might be worth cancelling the contract, just pay off the remaining months flat fee and you can terminate the contract there and then. best bet is to go into the store, and at least when you threaten the pillaging they can see by the torch and pitchfork, that you're not fucking about. I'm bored these days so I could probably rustle up a mob for you...

burn the village man.... it's quicker.

that's not flying, it's falling with style

Glad to see you're not wasting it then.... oh hold on Carling?????? 173723[/snapback] he's going to sell them on eBay and buy some decent lager with the profits.... shirley....

when you call, say "I'd like to be put through to a call centre based in England" if he refuses tell him that because of his non-compliance you will burn his village just like your great grand father did..

Check out foxnews.com or wait a couple of years and flick over to Sky News. It is scary, and we'd be just as bad over here if we were being indoctrinated with that shit constantly. The likes of Bill O'Reilly/Ann Coulter are hilarious to watch, until you remember people believe it. 173620[/snapback] check out the Daily Show with John Stewart, for an american satirical news show it's pretty good. It does build a lot of it's material around how poorly the real news was reported by "reputable" news channels. for example Fox news (among others) were studying the link between the wars in the middle east and Nostradamus' prophecies.... seriously... they were tryingto work out if this is Armageddon...

shall I get Leazes round? we could have the trifector...

It started at £5,000000 then upped to 15 by the end of the post it was 25. You're not a taxman are you 173492[/snapback] I just see the bigger picture. (Dad used to work for HMRC and I did some time there too)

could you drop everything? if you felt the Heat coming round the corner? I think the odds for proper big thefts are not 60-40 getting away with it. I'd wager there are big thefts going on right now, hidden in the electronic mess of the internet. There'll be scams and grifts going on that we have no knowledge of, where the chance of getting away with it is a lot better than 60% or maybe I just wish there was