Isegrim

Pah, I thought the first half was one-sided but cracking, it's not our fault that the Swedes were piss poor. I don't expect anything else but an easy win for Argentina in the next game.

Just stopped in at home while other went for a meal in town. I'll join them later to watch the Argies game. It's fucking hot down here and I am already pissed like I have been for the last week...

It's the Jormans man...bassads !! Hope we get to play them... 152897[/snapback] Oh, poor bastids.... The sending off was a stupid decision, but neverless the game could have only one winner. The first 30 mins was the best ever performance I've ever seen by a Jorman team, better than everything we played at Italia 90 when we were playing a sort of decent football. I think a statistic like 30:6 shots on goals tells everything...

Weißbier out of cans? No wonder he got arrested...

Herzlichen Glückwunsch.

I certainly wouldn't call Klose "bog standard world cup panic buy". In the end it is his second world cup where he is scoring goals quite a lot of goals. Add to it 25 goals in 26 games (+ 13 assists) in the Bundesliga and a couple of goals in the Championsleague this year. But I do agree, I don't think Newcastle can afford him at the moment and should look elsewhere. 152652[/snapback] you rate him then? i can't help but think he'd be the next guivarch if we signed him. 152655[/snapback] Well he might turn out to be the next Guivarc'h, but I do find it funny when people immidiately start knocking players just because they score at a bigger tournement and aren't the big household names. Klose is far from being a "one tournament wonder", especially as it is his second tournament where he scores quite a lot of goals. Of course the next thing is that it only was against the likes of Costa Rica, Equador etc. Though, why are the big household names not scoring in these games? Klose has a good goalscoring at both domestic and international level, so should a decent tournement add "10m to what he's actually worth"? Especially looking at the inflated prices of the likes of Defoe, A. Johnson etc. 152658[/snapback] i'm no big fan of german football so i can't really comment on his domestic form. it sounds impressive though so maybe he deserves more credit than i'm giving him. i've just never been that impressed whenever i've seen him. i'm sure he's not a bad player. his scoring record is good but he is playing in a germany side that compares poorly with the greats of past decades. that said, england are no great shakes either and they get talked up way beyond their true worth. i just remember germany's route to the final last time round not being the hardest, and weren't all his goals headers? and let's be frank, there aren't that many amazing german strikers around at the moment are there? would klose get into the english, spanish or italian squads? i agree that defoe is probably overrated and overpriced too, but he's a player i'd like to see us go for. would you go for klose over defoe? who do you think would represent better value if they were both priced for, say £10m? 152664[/snapback] Before people get me wrong, I certainly wouldn't call Klose world class and I am in fact not totally convinced about him either. And people who know me know that I am the least person to hype up the German league or German football in general. But on the other hand I don't like it when people are jumping to easy conclusions like about players only playing in a poor league, only scoring against crap teams etc. Of course Jormany had an easy route in the last World Cup and were playing piss poor teams this year. But if it is so easy to score against those teams why were the big names struggling? I do think that Klose would be a decent signing for the right price. He and his style football aren't very attractive, but he knows how to score goals and I think he would prove it whereever he was playing. I wouldn't pay more than 8m for him. But having said that I would not pay more than 6-7m for Defoe or more than 2-3m for the likes of A. Johnson. So how I think you can see how I rank those players.

I certainly wouldn't call Klose "bog standard world cup panic buy". In the end it is his second world cup where he is scoring goals quite a lot of goals. Add to it 25 goals in 26 games (+ 13 assists) in the Bundesliga and a couple of goals in the Championsleague this year. But I do agree, I don't think Newcastle can afford him at the moment and should look elsewhere. 152652[/snapback] you rate him then? i can't help but think he'd be the next guivarch if we signed him. 152655[/snapback] Well he might turn out to be the next Guivarc'h, but I do find it funny when people immidiately start knocking players just because they score at a bigger tournement and aren't the big household names. Klose is far from being a "one tournament wonder", especially as it is his second tournament where he scores quite a lot of goals. Of course the next thing is that it only was against the likes of Costa Rica, Equador etc. Though, why are the big household names not scoring in these games? Klose has a good goalscoring at both domestic and international level, so should a decent tournement add "10m to what he's actually worth"? Especially looking at the inflated prices of the likes of Defoe, A. Johnson etc.

I certainly wouldn't call Klose "bog standard world cup panic buy". In the end it is his second world cup where he is scoring goals quite a lot of goals. Add to it 25 goals in 26 games (+ 13 assists) in the Bundesliga and a couple of goals in the Championsleague this year. But I do agree, I don't think Newcastle can afford him at the moment and should look elsewhere.

Speaking of P-Kays, Americans and their knowledge of football... http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/worldcup/player?statsId=2524 Isn't there a Lampard in everybody of us...

Read a few posts up! 151443[/snapback] Isegrim's usually a bit more accurate than that. I'm not sure there will be a contingency fund of several million quid to cover Owen's wages. Pretty sure this is one reason Ferguson kicked up such a fuss about Rooney. 151444[/snapback] The thing is why I am not sure is because there seems to be very little money in the fund, so that it would hardly cover the wages of any top player in a European league. Especially not the wages Newcastle throw at players. So it might either be a kind of insurance thing or FIFA only paying compensation based on what a player in the 3rd Trinidadian league earns. And thinking of how greedy FIFA are and normally don't want to give a penny to clubs I rather think it might be a case of the latter... 151449[/snapback] Newcastle will get something like 2m CHF out of the compensation pool from FIFA.

Sorry, but that is a stance I cannot understand at all. Bellamy was an annoying little shit who wasn't totally innocent in the whole saga that led to his departure, but also proved to be total value for money. You won't get players of his calibre often for 6m. So Newcastle's loss has been Liverpool's gain. How people can be happy with this is beyond me.

People might say they are not interested in him as he isn't a Newcastle player anymore. Unfortunately I still do care as Bellamy even when not being a Newcastle player anymore is the perfect example of the raise and fall of Newcastle United. He brought us Championsleague football and when went we dropped back in midtable mediocrity again. A nonsensical self-orchestrated downfall. Unfortunately it didn't do his own career any harm and he is back where we actually wanted to be - competing for the top four places. F***ing stupid.

You mean like: Michael Owen - The Sixteen Million Pound Man. I wish I could do one of those photoshops...

these latest reports are coming from respectable news sources. ruptured cruciate and damaged medial ligaments will require extensive reconstructive surgery. 9 months on the sidelines is a fair estimate. the same injury had shearer out for a year and gazza out for 16 months 152083[/snapback] The medial ligament story has been rubbished by .cock. And a fair estimate of the time on the sidelines is six months as this is the average time nowadays. Jormany's Philipp Lahm had this operation early in June last year and was back playing Championsleague at the end of November. I had the same operation (+ a minor operation on the meniscus) in the mid of June last year and was allowed to do full sports in December. And I even did get the best treatment as my insurance refused to pay me the best possible rehabilitation. You can't compare the effect of this kind of injury to what it was about 15 years ago.

Bollocks. I got a new cruciate ligament last year after it had not been discovered that it was torn for at least a year. I had this operation at a hospital being specialised on cruciate ligament damages and doing over 400 cruciate ligament operations each year and are the team docs of the Jorman national handball team. The operation is pretty much standard for them nowadays and the vast majority of people do take a full recovery, either if professional sportsmen or not. Of course there is a certain risk, but I wouldn't call it serious these days. I do actually know very few sportsmen who had to retire in recent year's because of this kind of injury.

It's funny how many totally bullshit stories about the injury itself and the length of rehabilitation process are coming out. Has any tabloid already reckoned that his leg might have to get amputated?

Playing Villa away while I work in Boremingham. Nice one.

A full recovery in 5-6 months is quite possible. I had mine operation excactly one year ago and was allowed to do full sports again in December. The biggest problem normally is rather the lack of match practice which means you need another couple of months to rediscover your form. 151708[/snapback] I reckon rediscovering your form as a chubby, bespectacled German lecturer is a different kettle of fish tbh. 151728[/snapback] Pah, there isn't that much of a difference between kicking a ball and kicking students into the balls for giving wrong answers...

A full recovery in 5-6 months is quite possible. I had mine operation excactly one year ago and was allowed to do full sports again in December. The biggest problem normally is rather the lack of match practice which means you need another couple of months to rediscover your form.

Read a few posts up! 151443[/snapback] Isegrim's usually a bit more accurate than that. I'm not sure there will be a contingency fund of several million quid to cover Owen's wages. Pretty sure this is one reason Ferguson kicked up such a fuss about Rooney. 151444[/snapback] The thing is why I am not sure is because there seems to be very little money in the fund, so that it would hardly cover the wages of any top player in a European league. Especially not the wages Newcastle throw at players. So it might either be a kind of insurance thing or FIFA only paying compensation based on what a player in the 3rd Trinidadian league earns. And thinking of how greedy FIFA are and normally don't want to give a penny to clubs I rather think it might be a case of the latter...

I don't know, probably depends on the policy. I only read the other day that this year is the first time FIFA agreed to pay some sort of compensation for players who injure themselves during the tournament. It's financed by a fund or something like that. Anyway, just avoiding to pay Owen's enormous wages would be healthy for Newcastle's finances...

Tough shit, the moment I saw the replay I knew that is cruciate ligaments are gone. That's six months out. Will be interesting if FIFA or England will pay any compensation so that we can buy a replacement when we normally should only have signed a partner.

Great. I feared that when England would play us they might raise their game to the occasion. Now it will be fun as I will go to Stuttgart which is just down the road from where I live with a couple of English frieds. I'll just have to buy an Equador shirt before...

I think it's just a PR stunt from Fat Fred (or LM). He knows that hardly any fan seriously want a takeover by an American hedge fond. I can already hear "Walking in a Shepherd wonderland" chants sung at the next match...

A look at today's gossip column just showed me again how fabricated most of these rag rumours are. The Star saying that Wenger has made a last ditch effort to sign Kompany when the player has already been officially presented by HSV over a week ago and also saying that Bayern want to sign Mellberg when Bayern did sign van Buyten at the very same day and certainly don't need another centre back.