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I wonder if he would if he played for Real Madrid rather than Barcelona.

Completely agree, Carroll is blameless almost in this, I've had this row with loads of people, I mean fucking hell the helicopter engine was already running, there's no way the club did enough to keep him, they wanted the money and any idiot should be able to see through Pardew's propaganda every time the subject is breached. I hope Dalglish gets more abuse than Michael Owen though.

Understatement of the century. He is THE worst manager we've ever had, it would be impossible for even Souness to have made a bigger mess of it than he did. As I said he did more damage to NUFC from where we were than Souness, Ashley and Allardyce put together.

There was a few of the older lads on another thread agreeing with my assertion that he is the worst thing that has happened to Newcastle in the last 50 years. He is. He ruined one of the biggest clubs in Europe in about 18 months, don't laugh at that we WERE one of the biggest clubs in Europe on a few different levels. I remember Hagi and Stoichkov saying that they respected us and wanted to sign for us at the time, we were the FIFTH richest club in the world, and that bastard just took us apart. I don't even need to list who he got rid of and who he replaced them with, you all know. It took us years to get over his dismantling of the club, and Shepherd can not be blamed for his appointment, because lets be honest nearly everyone at the time thought it was the right move for loads of reasons. Not least he'd won a lot, plus his top relationship with Shearer. In one season he managed to half the goals tally we'd scored, and before anyone says he was unlucky with injuries, we still should've had enough and he invested in Andersson during the season, he was a joke. Gullit was blameless in my eyes, was a car crash when that poor cunt came in, and only someone like SBR could've done the salvage operation he did. To add insult to injury after fucking our fantastic club up, and that's what we were, every cunt wanted to sign for us, I mean we were like trying to get SAF at the time and with straight faces, Dalglish got THREE MILLION in compensation. Disgrace of a man. His latest antagonistic comments today ""I'm sure when Newcastle signed Alan Shearer they didn't give too much consideration to Blackburn Rovers fans, but that's football. What goes around comes around." Fuckin cheeky bastard. What goes around comes around. Is that antagonistic or not? This is the first time we've faced him since 1998 when he left, and I wish I was going to Anfield, I hope the toon fans respect Carroll, they won't, and give this twat who was a disease in our club pelters.

Sorry I don't usually moan though do I? I'm nee Tecato like I say, I just well I've said everything I wanted to say. I'd rather the country spend £25m on your and Midds wedding than that pish. One of the wealthiest families on earth, Phil's gan "ah its areet Liz the daft tax payer will sort it oot". Fucking disgusting on so many levels.

£25m for something that will last 5 years, I don't want to sound like Tecato, but all I'll say is I have lots to say about this ALL of it moaning, which is what I've done all morning on twitter. These royalists man they come from no where, no one cared yesterday, they're like Liverpool fans, but the royals have even more blood on their hands than them historically. I wish there had've been a tornado or summik in London today.

Absolutely spot on mate. To be fair it's just the younguns who are stuck to their linnen about him, but very well put, agree with everything you have said. Messi hasn't got the charisma of Maradona never will have.

See I'd say aye great goal, but not as good as the Arsenal goal and no where near the to 20 goals I've seen in the flesh. It's like people have just started watching football, it was CRIMINALLY bad defending. George Best wouldn't have scored that goal because there's no that much skill involved not many dummies he just changes direction at pace which you could argue is a skill in itself, but Best wouldn't have scored that goal because in them days and even the 80's he would've been chopped down, four or five times, it was like they were frightened to put a tackle in. Even though you're basically give a year or two my age, I put you in the Y.A.I. brigade too mate. I've said Townsend talks shite, Messi did nowt until Real went down to 10 men and basically agreed it was a good goal but no more. Clearly I'm impressionable by you. I think you're going as overboard in the opposite direction as anyone is about it being the greatest goal ever though. Show me Mark Noble or Owen Hargreaves scoring a similar goal. Daft comparison imo. tbh

Dave Beasant's whilst he was buying mushrooms in Wm Low has to my oddest one... Gary Pallister at Wimpy's at Teddington Services when he was still at Boro was a mad one, after they'd drew 3-3 at Spurs. He patted me on the head and said good lad.

See I'd say aye great goal, but not as good as the Arsenal goal and no where near the to 20 goals I've seen in the flesh. It's like people have just started watching football, it was CRIMINALLY bad defending. George Best wouldn't have scored that goal because there's no that much skill involved not many dummies he just changes direction at pace which you could argue is a skill in itself, but Best wouldn't have scored that goal because in them days and even the 80's he would've been chopped down, four or five times, it was like they were frightened to put a tackle in. Even though you're basically give a year or two my age, I put you in the Y.A.I. brigade too mate.

Reminds me of Motty's commentary in that game at Old Trafford against the Czech's "Moller and Sammer have been tremendous today, Germany bossing the midfield........KUNTZ"

Aye but are you going to give him hell for this Stevie?? http://twitter.com/#!/DavidMccreery/st...870027313389569 He's Irish and not a modern day mug like 99% of footballers these days tweeting pish about moobs and fuckin Nando's. Boring cunts. So I'll let him off. Eats at Pizza Hut anyway. One of the less common places I've got a player's autograph I got Scott Sloan's in Bimbi's (worst chips ever) in Eldon Square, and Darren Jackson's in top shop

"Beat" 2, "ran past" 3, danced around all 5. It was a really excellent goal but not quite worth the jizzfest - of course knowing that a player can't tackle you and using that to motor past him is great to watch but it's not quite as good as implied by "beat 5 men" - just saying. Exactly. See if Owen Hargreaves or a Mark Noble scores the goal, it gets voted third best goal of the week, it's Messi so it's from another world and it's the usual chimps you'd expect losing jizz over this goal. You're talking shite Stevie. And on top of that, Messi makes a habit out of scoring goals like that, other players maybe score one of those in a lifetime Fuck off you doilum*. I'm not talking shite, it was a good goal, it wasn't one to cause car crashes, and is only being talked about it in these terms because it's Messi. Impressionable young people watching TV are taken by Andy Townsend's and Peter Dreary's pish. * see my comments about the usual chimps and what I expected them to say about this goal.

Aye but are you going to give him hell for this Stevie?? http://twitter.com/#!/DavidMccreery/st...870027313389569 He's Irish and not a modern day mug like 99% of footballers these days tweeting pish about moobs and fuckin Nando's. Boring cunts. So I'll let him off.

Just to let yous know, DAVIE MAC is on twitter @DavidMccreery is on twitter I'd much talk to Davie Mac than some of the modern day footballers. Class player, what he lacked in physical attributes he made up for in desire, he was old when I saw him too but he loved the toon. His last tweet is saying we're the best fans in the world.

Yes brilliant footballers always make amazing managers don't they. It was funny though to see an insane person managing a national team. As you mentioned his drug use, does that not reflect badly on Maradona when compared to Messi? Would he have had half the stamina or speed without his marching white powder? Would he have had the energy to beat Terry Fenwick had he not snorted 3 ounces of coco before the game? It's funny you mentioned that, I was just thinking about that a couple of minutes ago, if he had any toot up his snout after that goal. I mean if you do the charlie often it's effects are really intense for about 10 to 15 minutes,he could've went to Billardo "just away for a piss" just before coming back out because Maradona's goals against England were in the 49th and 53rd minute iirc. You might have a point about that goal.

Yes brilliant footballers always make amazing managers don't they.

Who's using that stick? All that people have said is he's not achieved what Maradona has yet. If he does fair play to him, doubt he will though, that's just my opinion. He's got a chance of a longer career than Maradona though, because he's happier playing Kings of War 10 on the PS3 than he is sniffing toot off a hookers tit.

The term "also rans" was referring to ANY team that was in the Europa league as opposed to the champions league really. Their "also rans" have won 4 europa leagues in the noughties, and ours have won 1. We couldn't get a team into the quarter final, Liverpool or Man City. Oh dear. Fulham got to the final last year. What difference does it make?!?!? Liverpool chose to largely play a reserve team. Think your arguments through, it's not all about pie charts and venn diagrams in real life sonna.

Exactly, herein lies the problem. Nostalgia interrupts debate and a conclusion cannot be reached. (However I am in the Fat Ronaldo camp) Get Messi in to the Premiership where more than ever any team can beat any other team you'd see how good he is. He's going to be in the top 10 or 15 players of all time, I don't dispute that, but largely he was mediocre in the world cup, the greatest stage of all, if he conquers that, or goes to a club like Napoli and single handedly wins 2 titles on his own, then you could start classing him in Maradona's league. One thing I can say with certainty, he will never have the charisma of Maradona. As a Napoli fan, careca was a massive player for Napoli, and the entire team was not bad.... at all. Maradona was great but his argentina side of 86 would probably have had a field day against messi's team of 2010. the point i'm making is, we are making a judgement too early, messi is what 22 or 23 and as such is a far better goalscorer (numerically in terms of goals scored for the same age) than maradona already. He also plays with comparatively better footballers than maradona in his club side. I thought last nights goal was exceptional. i think he'd adapt easily to the premiership. but would have to play exactly as he does with barca. i.e. free, false nine and no 10 all rolled into one. The bit in bold is total rubbish. Argentina 1986 were devastatingly mediocre, the only two other players of note were Jorge Valdano, who seeing as though you mentioned him, was no Careca, and Burruchaga who's playing career highlight was playing for someone shite like Montpellier or Nantes. Arguably along with Italy 2006, the most ordinary team to win the trophy, they really were the stereotypical one man team. I doubt they'd have even got of the group without Maradona. You're right about Careca though he was a good striker, and Ciro Ferrara a good defender and I always like Carnevale, but they weren't Milan, certainly not Barcelona 2011, and Maradona was more than just a catalyst for Npaoli.

Ye should be on Britain's Got Talent yee like. Anyone who wears them can get them in in 10 seconds. I've had mine since I was 17, best invention ever, still considering lazer treatment though.

When you consider bottom half sides like Boro and Fulham made the final I'd agree. ...and both got beat in finals off superior Spanish also-rans Sevilla also rans the same Sevilla who were leading La Liga with 3 weeks to go that season, who were only 5 points off winning it. Also rans Atletico second biggest spenders in Spain last season, with the a £40m rated striker playing up front with the World Cup player of the tournament. Also rans Must try harder. I'm confused by your point then. How's the Spanish league so much more pish than the English? I must have misread. You used the term "also rans". Fulham and Boro are also rans. Sevilla and Atletico are the equivalent of Liverpool and Tottenham, whereas Boro and Fulham are the equivalent of Racing and Zaragoza.

"Beat" 2, "ran past" 3, danced around all 5. It was a really excellent goal but not quite worth the jizzfest - of course knowing that a player can't tackle you and using that to motor past him is great to watch but it's not quite as good as implied by "beat 5 men" - just saying. Exactly. See if Owen Hargreaves or a Mark Noble scores the goal, it gets voted third best goal of the week, it's Messi so it's from another world and it's the usual chimps you'd expect losing jizz over this goal.

Barca and Messi get praise no matter what state they're in is my point, it's non stop adulation deserved at the time or not. Ya know what messi did until those goals? fuck all squared, but for 70minutes you'd have thought he'd levitated over the stadium at some point with some of the comments about his game thus far. (not on here btw just in general between commentators and twitter etcetc) Affely for instance was decent when he came on, beat marcelo for pace and set up a goal, which was barely acknowledged. We're we watching the same game? He was all over the pitch. linking play and Real couldn't get near him! Ronaldo on the other hand had 3 freekicks in good positions 2nd half and you know what he did . . . 2 hit the wall at knee height and the other ended up in row Z. Your comments about him getting better service too Messi started and finished both goals if you watch them again, the 2nd after beating 5 players and the keeper single handedly. Not sure how that equates to good service? :razz: :D Five Two at the most Diarra didn't even attempt to make a tackle he puts his hands in the air like a Compton dealer surrounded by LAOB Count them! I have he beats two men, absolutely woeful defending. He doesn't score that against a good defence, and probably doesn't against a side with eleven men.