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Laurent Robert's from there iirc. I can't believe well-off Frenchies are stuck up btw I have to say though that i was in the complete opposite state of mind to those posters wanting to be left alone. I found the lack of any interaction odd and missed the opportunity to crack on with a few people. Our lass was pregnant at the time so i was desperately seeking drinking partner. Aye Robert is from there, if i'd met anyone i would have brought him up in conversation.

Its interesting that when i booked a holiday through a french company and gone to french resorts (Reunion island), there was literally zero interaction between resort guests. I guess Danny/Gemmill etc are just a bit froggy in their attitudes.

I like meeting people whenever really, am a very sociable person but there is a difference between creepy and friendly.

They probably have one conversation then realise you're about to bench press them around the poolside area and run for their lives. Not met Gemmill then.

Wasting your days, chasing some girls, alright, chasing cocaine throught the backrooms of the world all night.

Crying out for the Grandpa Simpson gif.

Maladroit?

On the internet Danny it is, thats what you are using as a barometer of Newcastle fans as you dont know any in real life. Why? Just loook at yourself and be honest mate, it should be fairly obvious.

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Calm down Dave.

Diouf is clearly a far more despicable person that Barton. Neither will get selected for England though.

Random Factor - Outlaw. New album from the 20:20 Vision lot behind Back to Basics.

His form has dipped a bit recently imo. Fuck me that was controversial.

if it moved to Leazes corner would it not improve things since they would be closer to the players and other parts of the ground?

Says the man with a Kuqi monster avatar.

I fully accept that football has fundamentally changed and irreversibly so - I agree with SBTP that families per se is good for the game but over-focusing on them is a mistake in my view. This isn't all just about atmosphere - its about footballs place in the community as an outlet for tribalism and yes some aggression. I think claiming we're beyond the need for that outlet is naive. ? A fundamental change in the nature of football support has already occurred, not sure where a claim for being beyond a need for an outlet for tribalism or aggression was made.

Chezney, if you are going to play the contrarian you can surely do better than this. Even Christmas Tree wouldn't have the temerity to pass this off Oh come on, was just asking a question. How can it be contrarian if i also state i am not saying the position is wrong? The atmosphere on Saturday would never have reached it's crescendo had it not been for the lads in the corner that kept singing through the whole game, even while we were four nowt down. The rest of the corner to my left towards the away fans are pro-active...the families to my righht are reactive. Well as i wasnt there i cant really argue but i have been there when the lads in the corner never shut up all game and the atmosphere was shite.

Chezney, if you are going to play the contrarian you can surely do better than this. Even Christmas Tree wouldn't have the temerity to pass this off Oh come on, was just asking a question. How can it be contrarian if i also state i am not saying the position is wrong? Well as you very well know correlation =/= causality, you might as well say he second half atmosphere was so good because Mr Marshall-Barnes left early Well i definitely wasnt trying to associate the better atmosphere with the increase in family numbers, just saying that it would be strange to blame the increase in family attendance on the worse atmosphere in the modern game compared to 20+ years ago. edit : wrong way round, ye knaa what i mean.

See the difference between climate and weather..... Good answer and a great analogy. I think the change you fear has already passed and that the determination of a good atmosphere is much more complex and bizarre than just whether there are 600 or 6000 in a family enclosure. The role of expectations, social psychology, team performance, time of day, frustration, anger etc all still play a fundamental role.

Chezney, if you are going to play the contrarian you can surely do better than this. Even Christmas Tree wouldn't have the temerity to pass this off Oh come on, was just asking a question. How can it be contrarian if i also state i am not saying the position is wrong?

If the number of families is at an all time high and demand outstrips capacity and saturday was the best atmosphere since 'Tino', how does the correlation between familiies and shit atmosphere get passed off without any discussion? Not saying its wrong, just asking the question.

It's the same bloke that was ploughing one of his players' birds and faced him daily . Pulling the wool up here's a relative walk in the park . Good point.

Doesnt that basically assume that Pardew is basically putting on Oscar winning performances in front of a live TV camera every few days with no slip ups or re-takes? He cant be that good an actor.

The Muppet Show! Greatest kids show ever? Always remember me dad pissing himself laughing at certain bits and not being entirely sure why but enjoying it anyway.

Makes me angry seeing my seat in yellow. I'm seathing. Get TalkSport phoned - it is time for Marshall-Barnes to get the media onside Too much of a negative issue, he needs to protect the Marshall-Barnes brand. He can show himself to be a multi-faceted pan-topical commentator, the brand can be so much more than mildly self-mocking humorous anecdotes. As his self-appointed agent, i want him to focus on the core brand values set down by the half-time departure. Looking at a ten minute slot on Loose Women discussing premature ejaculation (jovial tone, self-deprecating style).