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Good for the students, its about time the UK woke up from its apathy.

Nice playlist manky.

Exactly Matt, if we want to stay in this division, we've got to start doing better at home against teams that are our direct competition. The league table is far too tight to be looking at our relative positions at the minute too.

Thought Wilson was a bit shit tonight.

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They are stifling the shit out of us and we are playing badly. Tiote made a big mistake for their goal. Fucking football.

There might be a few rivers about, its on overseas TV, i'll pm you when i get home later and had a look. Always good to have a radio back up, i signed up for one month of .co.uk, cost 4.99 or something and listened to one match. Works fine though and even works on macs now. Get us joining the modern age.

If The Cross was the smaller of those two clubs next to each other, the one with the brick arches I used to love it in there. Peach@the Leisure Lounge and Love Muscle were my other regular haunts. Right next to Kings cross, there were all sorts of venues around there. They used to do a mini-festival thing in that whole area. Cant remember the name of it now. The cross was the one with loads of smallish rooms connected by brick arches. I've got an old photo of me at the cross from about 8 years ago, on first look its me with a bottle of champagne in each hand, silly glasses and a cigarette cooly balanced in the side of my mouth. On closer inspection you can see that both eyes are looking in different directions, the tab isnt lit and i've got sick/dribble on my chin and t-shirt. Love Muscle? Meenzer will know it i'm sure.

Stressed.

Really like Something Else on that Diamond Rings album. Am listening to Greg Wilson @ the Sunset Halloween Boat Party in San Francisco, from 2 weeks back. Free to download off his soundcloud. "A knife, a fork, a bottle and a cork, that’s the way we spell New York / chick in the car but the car won't go, thats how we spell Chicago"

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He's better than Crouch, yes? In which case the England debate is redundant.

His sister Helen was in my class. He was a couple of years below me, in my shadow at the time tbh. Met him at a Blyth match couple of years back, he didn't remember me. Twat.

I'll bet anybody on here anything H will be gone by Christmas. Should have had a piece of that action You would have nearly paid out 2 weeks ago by all accounts.

The spirit of Sir Bobby lives on in Noelie.

The estimates of what relegation cost are so variable it could well have been £50m but i thought revenue would drop by about £20-25m after the parachute, from high £70's down to around £50m. If all the players leaving saved that much in cash then yes there is a loss but the benefit is then you can operate on a lower cost base. This makes sense if Platini gets his way and limits the ability of clubs to run losses. The only reason why penny pinching doesnt work is because you have to invest hugely to keep up with the saudis and the russians to even have a chance. If losses become limited then you want a tight run ship with a good academy. The big clubs are stuffing themselves on players as they can spend now with certainty. In two seasons time, this may look very different. Dont worry, i'm not for one minute even contemplating the idea that Ashley planned any of this, his cock-ups are just so fucking outrageous every single time, the man is a massive tool and an idiot. Doesnt mean i cant see the glass half full though. We've been very lucky with Hughton, so i dont really need to link positives to Ashley, just to chance / good fortune and a good manager. Lets hope at least some of this positivity is till here on saturday after the Fulham match, as quite rightly said it could still go tits up for us very easily. For me though a good mid-table finish would be great as i think that will present another set of opportunities.

No, I am win! In the complete short-arse category.. peasepud wins a few categories.

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Is now not believing we will get relegated after spending nowt getting carried away though?

In high performance team literature that comes out of schools like INSEAD, there is this concept called 'break down to break through'. It basically states that the best performing teams are one that have suffered a virtually fatal 'break down' and a period of sustained adversity. The theory (based on observations and examples, its not someone making it up) is that once the team has broken down, a leader can make the team 'break through' by galvanising the team around the experience and using it to propel the team to levels of performance not thought previously possible. I learnt about this on a management course in 2006 (at INSEAD funnily enough) and always thought that relegation and the Leyton Orient game and what happened after that sounded similar. I also gave the opinion at some point that the business benefits of being able to rid an organisation of low productivity / high cost labour and re-hire from scratch, akin to a corporation nearly going bust, shedding loads of labour, re-skilling with a new mix and riding the upturn in the economy, was one of the opportunities of relegation. The challenges probably outnumbered the positives but they were still there. I dont think its either of those things by themselves but these factors have been at play. Its also possible that Chris Hughton's philosophical approach to life (egalitarian / trotskyist) has had some very positive effects on individual players. We also are blessed with a massively loyal support to keep the whole thing moving along and keep people inside the club believing in what they are doing. In short, relegation presented challenges and opportunities, the key was to keep focussed around the challenges (belief, hope, finance) and to take the opportunities (re-birth, breaking through).

Sorry CT, I mis-read that. I'm the mad git.

Or players and manager continue giving a million percent to try and ensure said manager new deal. I think this will be sorted out in the new year which is probably right. Had we lost to sunderland and Arsenal and were currently sitting fourth bottom, there would be few calling for the contract negogiations to be rushed through now. Well obviously You get your one-up-manship from the fact that you believed he could be a success, not from the fact you are correct in the current scenario and therefore would have been correct (because of this) in the scenario where we are 4th bottom. You mad git.

Doubt has been cast on that by No. 10 today. But isnt that what their bound to say Dont know.The right-wing pro-war lobby have always been a bit vague when it comes to human rights and torture. Surprisingly wooly and namby-pamby from them. Clegg's fault obviously

Doubt has been cast on that by No. 10 today.