PaddockLad

Ah yes - only the UK is affected so isn't it's its obvious the root cause is the FSA. How exactly would the BofE prevented this Danny? By doing what they are doing now after the horse has bolted. Stress testing, scrutinising bank risk profiles and exposures. I don't blame the FSA, they didn't have the expertise required to scrutinise the banks and their instruments in detail. The BOE didn't have the expertise either - the root cause of this goes back to Thatcher and Reagan - the market knows best philosophy compounded by later slackness and encouragement of consumer greed. If 5 or 10 years ago Labour had announced large scale regulation of the city and a huge clampdown on irresponsible lending via credit cards and mortgages what do you think the reaction would have been? It would have ranged from mild "Old labour stifling growth" jibes to outright rebellion and would certainly have lost them the last election. If Cameron or Duncan Smith had won on that basis do you think there would have been more chance of the Tories preventing the crunch or Newcastle winning a trophy? There is a massive difference between the stimulating effect of deregulation introduced by the tories and the free for all credit fest we saw under labour. or, in other words "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile" And no one, Bank of England or FSA could've stopped them once the ball was rolling. Tories keeping their mates happy by taking a sledgehammer to financial regulation in the 80's have a lot to answer for......"Greed is good,greed works, greed is right" was supposed to be a satire, not a lifestyle for chinless twats in red braces.But they were too thick to realise.

Or could it be said that because the financial institutions had grown so powerful since de-regulation that they would've cheerfully held any government in the world to ransome in this way because of the nature of the global marketplace?

Isn't he the one of the two sacked by the Daily Mirror instead of that half wit Piers Morgan (Editor at the time) for insider trading?....was he jailed for it as well? or has he been up to no good since then? hardly a good source.

Isn't that one of the major reasons for the way those institutions who have had to bailed out recently behaved? "give us de-regulation, so we can behave in a financially reckless way or we, and our taxes (such as they are) will go abroad" De-regulation, the CoL's "Big Bang" etc, was all brought in under the Tories to keep their mates happy. By the time Labour came in stricter regulation in a global financial marketplace was virtually impossible for any Government. Yet Brown gets it in the neck for this. He's got plenty wrong, but it strikes me that there isn't a lot he could do on this. Horse,stable door and bolted springs to mind. Absolute rubbish, it was Labours decision to move control of the banking industry to the FSA from the BOA that allowed this to happen. So the "BOA" (I take it you mean the Bank of England?) would've told HBOS not to get into bed with the American sub prime lenders? or Northern Rock not to lend 125% mortgages?

Isn't that one of the major reasons for the way those institutions who have had to bailed out recently behaved? "give us de-regulation, so we can behave in a financially reckless way or we, and our taxes (such as they are) will go abroad" De-regulation, the CoL's "Big Bang" etc, was all brought in under the Tories to keep their mates happy. By the time Labour came in stricter regulation in a global financial marketplace was virtually impossible for any Government. Yet Brown gets it in the neck for this. He's got plenty wrong, but it strikes me that there isn't a lot he could do on this. Horse,stable door and bolted springs to mind.

Well if it was the same people who were getting hit at 40% before, then is it not anyone on around 35-40k p.a.? Am not sure about that, am far from up to date with these things, but the figure may well be not as high as you think. You'd need to earn £150,000 to be affected by this new rate. My heart bleeds. Has the earnings for 40% not changed then?

Well if it was the same people who were getting hit at 40% before, then is it not anyone on around 35-40k p.a.? Am not sure about that, am far from up to date with these things, but the figure may well be not as high as you think.

I think it's fair enough to be honest like. Season ticket holders should take precedence over "stay aways". In 1991/1992, we were staring relegation in the face, and I barely missed a game home or away, but that's in that past, and so is your away record if you dont have a season card. Ahh but PaddockLad hasnt said hes not getting one, hes merely cancelled the 3 years deal, which I think is fair enough. Indeed, but I wouldn't want to stand in the way of young Mr Steven having a dig, it appears to be what he's here for And I'd also suggest to the cheeky young scamp that seeing as I had 120+ points to lose, I have attended more games than I have missed over the years And the points have now this morning miraculously re-appeared, as WubbleUC hinted that they would.

I sent a letter and the sixty quid they wanted back a few weeks ago.....just logged on to the box office and my ahem "loyalty" points for away tickets have gone form 120+ to zero Anyone else noticed this? Or have all points been set to zero? It strikes me that whether I get a season ticket or not next season (and I may well do, the two year commitment was proving a bit of a millstone) then they're really just shooting themselves in the foot.Because by scratching the loyalty points I've built up over the years they're basically stopping me from getting away tickets on my ST number next season.......... so they can just fuck right off and I'll go and watch Berwick on a Saturday afternoon next season They'll need all the support they can get next season regardless of what division we're in so what is the point of pissing fans off like this?...if they have like..

Had it a few times over the years before/after games at Spurs......they do seem to enjoy laughing in people's faces. Maybe it's being in the shadow of Arsenal all these years.One lad claimed we got 4k for a league cup tie around 92, which may have an element of truth, but then he launched into a dull "big club" rant, which his mates told us to ignore as he was having treatment for depression...........I expect that was the Arsenal thing again The pub we were in has now been flattened.....we discovered this at roughly 1030 yesterday morning when we were in dire need of an early pint.......does Danny know what happened to "The Park", next to Northumberland Park Station?....

Said it elsewhere....Shearer's making a point. I'm starting to think he wants to go down too. Make his job a bit easier in his first full season. He's going out of his way to say its till May 24th only.....do you really think he could stomach working for Ashley much longer?....unless he knows something we don't?.......

I basically wasted 20 mins of my life berating a complete fuckin cockmonkey in a pub yesterday afternoon, I found myself repeating much of what you have said here Mr Fish....when I had finished pulling him up for his completely cliched media influenced view of NUFC I asked the fuckin halfwit who he "supported"....yeah, you guessed it, fuckin spurs

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The ironic thing about relegation is that if we do what the Mackems did and get rid of all our high earners and then get back up on a shoestring as they did in 2005 with McCarthy, Ashley would be in a great position in terms of low costs. Hypothetical I know but it could turn out better than 3 years of finishing 17th under Kinnear. I see what you mean, but for me Ashley came in with the intention of selling us for a fat profit within 12 months. He still would if he coud break even. I don't hold out much hope for the future under the fucker if we go down. Appointing Shearer was the last throw of the dice for football's biggest gambler. He had to do something to try to hang on to his cash, and Shearer was his only real option.Relegation means a whole new ball game, and with the subsequent loss of income, Ashley could conceivably give up completely.

I'm almost in agreement with that sentement, but we lost over 30 odd million in the last financial year on crowds thatLiverpool, Everton,Villa,Spurs etc would kill for. Christ knows what the true financial posistion of the club is, but if we go down there must be a possibility that if Ashley is putting his own cash into the day to day running of the club then he will just cut his losses and pull the plug and leave us in real financial trouble. Anyone up for FC Newcastle United 2009 in fuck knows what league? 95% of me is horrified by that thought, but 5% of me thinks that you're right But I agree, football has completely eaten itself, and we've had our noses in the trough as much as anyone.Have a read of the piece from the Guardian in the Hillsborough thread to see what I mean.

From today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/ap...ter-anniversary

I spent a month doing that in 1993. Amtrak do zone railcards which are good value. Mine lasted the month and I could get on any Amtrak train in the eastern third of America. Started in New York and stopped at Washington DC, Savannah Georgia and Miami. I stayed in youth hostels which were cheap and everywhere. Sometimes they were in pretty dodgy areas though... I did that the following year and eneded up in hostels in Harlem (terrifying local vagrants) New Orleans (heard gunfire every day for a week, first burst was as we were getting our bags out of the taxi when we first arrived! ) and Anaheim (cab driver who couldnt speak a word of English crashed his cab on the way to the hostel after running a red light, nearly killed us) And most of the septics thought English was my second language.....fuckin cheeky twats Having said all that.................to me, its a great place, full of interesting things in a way that huge,dull dustbowl Austrailia just can't measure up to. The people I came across were overwhelming great as well with just one or two exceptions

Bad as the scouse. We're so special! Look at us, we care more. No you don't you are no different to any other club. Lack of trophies aside. You'd love to believe that .... but in your heart you know that nobody will ever really care either way about Tottenham Hotspur. They just aren't interesting like us. Arsenal have the slick flowing football, Chelsea have the glamour and the money, West Ham have tradition and are the lifeblood of working class football in the capital. Millwall have the hooligans, Fulham have Mohammed Al Fayed. And then there's your lot. Another club in London. Nobody hates you because you just don't matter. I know it's tough Danny Boy, but we're HERE for you. Your continued posting is acknowledgement of the fact that it's just really not possible to say anything about your club. Never mind son. We're a broad church. Enjoy the atmosphere and the passion. We take you into our fold. Let me see, we have the first domestic double in the modern game, A trophy in every decade, a tradition that makes West Ham look like a Monday night five aside team, a fan base that has never averaged under 20K despite being relegated in 77 (only us and Man Utd can say that), a European trophy in my life time. What we DON'T do however is go round saying how "special" our club is, despite only having an ability to lurch from disaster to disaster differentiating us from the likes of Boro... Glory hunting cockney twat

Was Shola playing in midfield then? We have a world class goalscorer who thrives on good service in the right areas for him to use his great finishing to best effect and if he's received 3 decent passes into space in the penalty area all season I'd be fuckin amazed. Its the midfield that seen us in the bottom 3, our strikers,Shola apart, are more than good enough for a UEFA cup spot. Shearer saved the day in a way after changing it with the right players at the right time and also Stoke sat back more than they had been doing in the last 20 mins. If our strikers had the chances Stoke had we'd have won 3 or 4 nil, as they should have.

He is that fat footed bloke everyone takes the piss out of in 5 a side. Even though Shearer says he's shit hot in training? Every manager we've had has said the same...Souness said three mornings out of four he was "unplayable" in training. He must've been close to an England call up around the time we were playing in the champions league....he was banging them in at the Likes of Leverkusen and Liverpool, and the under 21s, and all Erikkson was picking in the England squad at the time was Heskey, Owen and Darius fuckin Vassel! At the time, he was definetly playing better than Vassel. But he hasn't kicked on, as mentioned above he's gone backwards. I watched him amble on to the pitch for the second half at Stoke on Saturday, a minute or so behind his teamates. He looked completely uninterested, just like he was out for a stroll in the sun. Someone pointed this out and everyone stood around us saw it and the more charitable among them just laughed and put their heads in their hands. The others...well...look at the first post on this thread.

I am surprised he hasnt stepped down after what has happened.We will take a long time to recover from this Labour government. Really?......."never apologise, never resign" being the mantra of the modern political classes in the 21st century..... This is piss poor playground stuff played out over an otherwise dull (news wise) bank holiday weekend. The tories smell blood over something these un-elected pricks (the government advisers) spend most of their time doing ie finding ways to snipe at the opposistion.Don't for a minute think that the tories dont employ their own spinners to do the same job. McBride works in number 10, but is Brown really going to see every email the fool sends? Blair and that fuckin tosspot Campbell never apologised for the Iraq war or the death of Dr Scott so to expect an apology and a resignation from the Prime Minister for a bit of name calling that he knew nothing about is like asking for the death sentence for dropping litter. Politicians and thier un-elected lackeys in this country are almost all to a man/woman self serving careerist fuckers with more interest in feathering their own nests than serving those who elect them.They're not alone in this,but they are better behaved and less corruptthan most,even in Europe......Silvio Burlisconi or Gordon Brown anyone?

Seeing as you're plainly concerned as to the religious significance of Good Friday on the population of London in general, I do find it a bit galling that you were out on the fuckin lash and needing a 30 quid taxi home on one of the most religiously significant days in the christian calender. See you at Matins next Sunday before the match?.....hmmm...thought not...... Ha ha, Good Friday doesn't really affect me either. I dont use it an excuse to rip people off. You work in the City of London?......is the concept of irony lost on you lot?

Seeing as you're plainly concerned as to the religious significance of Good Friday on the population of London in general, I do find it a bit galling that you were out on the fuckin lash and needing a 30 quid taxi home on one of the most religiously significant days in the christian calender. See you at Matins next Sunday before the match?.....hmmm...thought not......

Shit thats ok, our top notch recruitment team are bound to have another left back at the club by now.....isn't that right Dennis?.....Tony?.....are you lads there?......

She was a fat racist charver though, famous for basically being a....thick fat racist charver. To reward the youth of today with stardom, jewels and more money than they could have made in a lifetime if they were doing what they are capable of is the problem with this country now. What message does it give? Either stick in at school, get a job and work hard all of your life or, leave school with fuck all, go on a reality programme (where the only reason they selected you was because you were so pig shit thick) get ya minge out, say some stupid stuff to show just how thick you actually are then appear in OK magazine. Call a Bollywood star names because you think you're better than her and become reviled by the general world but its ok because at some stage you'll die and suddenly they'll think you're a saint. If you want to blame anyone for your pretty valid points then blame the media who gave her the platform to perform on. She was a product of her piss poor enviroment, which a lot of people are being brought up in, judging by the amount of people who appear to identify with her. The media were catering to these people,plainly not yourself. She wasn't a fat racist charver, she was a thick, daft lass who was a product of the Britain we've all contributed to in 2009. She saw a chance to make a better life for herself by just being herself and not worrying about what others thought,until her hard nosed upbringing reared its head and she spoke to someone in a way that she had been spoken to many times herself, coupled with the inflated ego that all the exposure in the media was bound to cause in someone of limited intelligence with large numbers a parasites around her making themselves huge amounts of cash on the back of her making a show of herself. I doubt if its the worst thing thats happened to the Indian girl either. Is that what you dont like?....the mirror she holds up via the media so we can all see the way less fortunate among us live, and the way they have to degrade themselves in public to make a better life for themselves?