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http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/07/07/borussia-monchengladbach-and-newcastle-united-target-luuk-de-jong-blasts-fc-twente-stance/65076/ Somehow or other I really don't think we'll be signing Luuk de Jong....

Yeah thats right because we've a long history of fullbacks who can do all that

Agreed, he's nowt startling but we've had a lot worse....works hard, generally keeps it simple and doesnt try to do what's a bit beyond his abilities too often i.e. attacking...

I lived on Easter Road around the time Keegan came back as manager. A highlight of my time there was watching Hibs and Aberdeen trading petrol bombs up and down the road after a game one Saturday evening. Hibs were handy too, well documented as you say in Welsh's first two or 3 books. Don't think he was involved too much in the violent stuff but he was "one of the lads" as it were. Hibs were as nasty as Aberdeen but lacked the numbers Aberdeen had. The rest were pretty much as you say, if there was something kicking off thered be no shortage of volunteers but little in the way of proper "firms". Aberdeen were the first organised "casual" firm in Scotland. When they played Liverpool in 81 European cup the trip to Anfield was an eye opener....Liverpool fans had been totalling posh boutiques on the continent for years and robbing stuff to wear at matches...in those days it was stuff like Benetton jumpers and Kicker boots, good quality bleached jeans, expensive, hard to find trainers etc...Aberdeen copied the style but got it completely fuckin wrong by paying for it all and going for a native Scottish angle (Pringle,Lyle & Scott etc) which made them look like the bastard offspring of Jimmy Tarbuck and Peter Alliss. But that all spread like wildfire and soon every footy lad in Britain was dressed as if he was on the 17th green at fuckin Wentworth

You might find that the Debuchy thing is a done deal and Simpson knows it, its often the way....and thats why he won't sign a new contract because he knows he's being replaced.Out of interest whats Simpson done to upset you?...

Rangers hooligan mob had strong links with the Chelsea Headhunters 20 odd years ago, so did the Hearts lot but on a lesser scale.In the league table of "tidy firms" they both lagged well behind Aberdeen and in their own city Hibs, as we found out at Tynecastle in 87 when Hib's CCS mob formed a "reception comittee" on Gorgie Road for Mags leaving the ground after a pre season friendly (Gazza scored the winner 1-0). Dont know how much of that still goes on, but its the same as most thug related shite; its not as common as it once was. My brothers father in law is a season ticket holder at Tynecastle and is the nicest man I've ever met in my life

Take more water with it Leazes!

I've read this 3 times now and still can't quite take it all in It is the singularly most ridiculous thing I've ever had the misfortune to read. Looking at the time of post I'm going to be charitable and put it down to drink.

Didnt they go to the wall because they couldnt pay the electric?...Scottish Power cut them off so they couldnt play any matches

So your opinion is dont punish them for cheating?....that'll be a good deterrant to others. This is the biggest thing in Scottish football history and its going to sort some wheat from chaff but ffs any club that arises from the ashes at Ibrox cannot possibly be allowed to get off without any sanction, regardless of the effect on the other clubs. The other clubs know it and are being shamed into accepting it by other Scottish football fans and by the Scottish public in general. The other side of that is that its difficult to know the extent other the "Rangers/Orange Lodge/Masons/all bigots together looking out for each other" type mafia that pervades large swathes of public life in Scotland and to what extent the Scottish league is polluted by it. A a stitch up or contiued intimidation of league clubs by them is the only chance of any form of newco playing football in the name of RFC in Scotland next season. If the Rangers newco does find itself somehow playing league football next season then its probably the most shameful episiode in the history of professional sport in the UK.

Is for me the correct punishment if the big tax case is proven against them, which wasnt much to do with the liquidation of the club. ...its at appeal at the moment, but the company that is appealing no longer exists..Expell them from the record books so the acheivements that they cheated in order to win can go to clubs who play by the rules. Let them play where they want after that.

Are they shipping Chamakh out as well?....if they do they may need another....champs lge etc... Express saying Fergie wants Tiote and Cabaye. Beats me why Man U can't find players of that standard themsleves, regardless of the truth of the story, which is more than likely bollocks, but you never know. Manu's midfield needs something but its not really crying out for these two, unless theyre ditching Carrick and they want Cabaye in there. I'd imagine Fergie might like Tiote too but he likes lads with a good range of passing and thats not really Tiotes strong point.

You not more pleased that the game at the stadio del shite is on the box?.....strange as a bottle of crisps.....

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No, not entirely. No one knows what will happen tbh. But this could open the floodgates. I do think thats a danger for various reasons as I've said. Its going through today so we'll see.

Where does it stop though? whod have thought the players in cricket and tennis couldve questioned the umpires call 20 years ago? Think about John Terry being able to appeal a penalty decison. That scenario is a fuckin nightmare, am sure you'll agree.

Each FA will decide what competitions it will be intoduced in. It wouldve had a major bearing on the FA cup final this year. But one game in one competition where the technology is impossible to be used across every game is hardly a decent argument in its favour. Its all to do with how many people see it. A close goal line decision at Port Vale in a 3rd round replay should be in sporting terms as important as one at Wembley in the final. But because theres potentially millions riding on Chelsea v Liverpool its different. So that makes it one rule for the rich and one for the poor. Which is life. Doesn't make it fair though. The rules should b the same for every club in the competition surely?

Why? Officals had made errors in every sport for decades and the sports had thrived. Can't you see that? Why should it change now, who wants the change and who's driving it? Instead of trotting out the party line, think about it.

You know it doesnt work like that!!! I have put a bit of thought into this...it may not seem like it, but I have...it was cricket and the complete bell ends in the sky tv commnetary box who made me think theres something going on thats not quite right a few years back.

On the face of it, nothing. If the technology has been proven to work in all conditions then I don't see a problem with it. Its where it may lead to I'm concerned about. And the reasons for introducing it in the first place. The argument in favour seems to be "well its there, lets use it" which is as lame as me complaining about rampant commercialism. Theres been one premier league match affected by it in 20 years.

Technology is available to these sports as an alternative to having human officals making important decisions. If it wasnt the power and control hungry Murdoch driving these innovations it would be someone else like him. The biggest problem facing cricket is match riggging and spot betting, and has been for the last 20 years or so. It wasn't whether a ball had pitched outside the off stump and therefore the appeal to the umpire from the bowler for lbw is turned down. Cricket had thrived for over 100 years as a global sport before Sky brought their Hawkeye system in, snickomemter,hotspot etc etc....all of it undermines the umpire. All of it brought in by Sky. I don't see how thats even debateable tbh. Its gimmicks like this,brought in for the armchair viewer and the advertisers who want to attract them, that has undermined the authority of the umpires. Rampant commercialism has replaced a sport.

Thats the only one I csn think of and the league has been going 20 years....see what I mean? It changed nothing too...manu finsihed 3rd, 18 points behind Chelsea in 2005, Spurs finsihed 9th.

Its really great to have you back CabayeAye

First point yeah, but you could actually stop the game and see if theres been any contact at all, especially in the box. Once you go a yard down that road (eg goaline only), some bell end in the media will want more. Thats how the case for goaline technology started, despite it making no difference whatsover to any significant Premier League outcome that I can remember. Correct me if I'm wrong on that. And I know enough about cricket to know that the referall system is despised by umpires and indeed some teams, India for instance. I'm not a cricket addict, but I do understand the game very well and played a fair bit in my youth and if anyone who is heavily into their cricket wants to contradict me then thats fine. So if goaline technology was to be introduced, and the ball is found not to have crossed the line fully, how is the game re started?....