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When the works done then hopefully we'll have a fully searchable database of all the data any of us can tap into. You're quite handy with Excel though arent you?

Fuck me these are good! Trouble is theyre going to take a bit of work to get them into a useable format as its not straight forward comma seperated data. A bit of work but not impossible, top work Rob man!

In 98 we were one victory against a Chelsea team playing in plimmas because of a cup final away from going down. I think it was 3 or 4 points in the end but without that victory we would have gone into the last day with at least the possibility of going down. This was due to the Ferdinand sale combined with the Shearer injury - the former being Ashley-esque in its stupidity. Wasnt that because we were a Plc though and the "shareholders" demanded the sale before the end of the financial year? At the same time, it was Hall and Co who ultimately put us in that position so swings n roundabouts like. Either way though, yes Shepherd was in charge at times when we nearly went down but the magic word is nearly, Ashley managed it fairly damn quickly

Was hoping to find it on Youtube but nowt

ESPN are looking for the bloke who was arguing with Keegan when he came out to defend the sale of Cole. Does anyone have any idea of who he is or have a copy it on video anywhere?

Shearer would have been a much bigger draw to potential new players whereas its more likely to be Chris Who? Saying that, what am I thinking? new players? needing a big name manager to attract the cream of European talent???? I dont think Hughton can handle the pressure of the Prem, who knows if Shearer could have done but my guess is with his background then he'd have a much better chance.

ok so I hadnt paid the bill

How can it be more secure? one man can go bust, one gambling man at that. All it takes is another massive loss on the stock market and he could call in the debts. Plus its not just him, its the banks as well.

The only way that statement is meant to be read is that Ashley is pulling 500k per week out of his pocket to cover losses (eg £700k outgoings, 200k incomings = net loss of £500k), theres nothing stupid therefore about multiplying 52 by 500k. if what you're saying is that Llambias is lying to make us look in a worse position than we are then I wouldnt dispute that happening as we know just how little we can trust from them. To use it however as a reasoning why we are in a better position under Ashley than Shepherd would be madness. There are other considerations to take into account as well. This is the season when we renegotiated our Sponsorship and kit deals, do you think we would manage anything like the deals we did last time? A club in the Championship commands far far less in these deals than one doing well in the Prem. How therefore does that make us better off than under Shepherd? £15m from NR last time and what was it this time? 6? As for Adidas/ Puma, I dread to imagine the difference there. Corporate sponsorship down (you'd be lucky if half those boxes are being used), ticket sales down, merchandising down, the list goes on and on and on..... Our overdraft is upto the hilt and, although I havent got the details yet I see that there are 2 more mentions of loans from a Bank when you view Companies House, that doesnt sound like a good position to me. I have yet to see any proof that this football club is financially better off than it was pre-Ashley other than random contradictory statements from the owners lackey.

Daft thing is, change the words KMart to Greggs and it would be a perfectly true story for the makem one.

Does this mean you have nothing to backup your statement!? Lets see now, we could take Llambias's statement from a week ago....... My basic maths make that a £26m per annum loss just on the money Ashley is "putting in", however the first bit is interesting, "If Mike and the banks...." so that would mean they are also hodling some debt and ongoing losses. Add in the amount made from the transfer window with the sale of the likes of Bassong etc and we must be looking at an overall deficit of say, £50m in this one year? Add that to the original debt that was there when he bought the club (the debt racked up in building us a 52k seater stadium and purchasing players) and I get it to say £120m+, thats not taking into account the debt accrued in the period between Ashley purchasing the club and this season. So yes, Id say I have a fair bit to back it up, how about you?

HF has the figures and has talked about them here before but even by the clubs own admittance we're in the crap. Im sure Llambias has talked glowingly about how Sir Mike has pumped in something like £120-130m in loans to the club. When he took over there was something in the region of £70-£80m in debts (including the stadium mortgage).

One for the Old Skool.........

£200 + a years supply of Coke, in seriousness though its a piddling amount compared to the real prize of getting up there with the "big lads"

On the pitch? Bollocks. Off the pitch its bollocks too. No matter how many times HF has pointed it out some people still refuse to acknowledge the fact that we're far deeper in debt now than we ever were under the past regime. How that makes us stronger is beyond me.

As HF says, thats L7 and even then they arent exactly prominent. To get what other clubs have we need a facility to have banners and flags draped over the levels so they can be seen by all.

How old are you?? 16?? Thought it was time to have a little bumpy so the guilty pessimistics amongst you can see the error of your ways. Well called Mr A This league is anything but a piece of piss. Interestingly however, if you look at that post, hes only really right on us walking the league (so far)..... 3 of those named dont get a game, while all but one arent good enough for next season. Guthrie is borderline and could be a squad player imho. Amazingly, we score 6 and our "main striker" doesnt get a look in, Im not even sure he had a shot yesterday. Carroll is finished at this club once he goes down. As for Stroller, well history will tell his story. Nuff said. Just as the opposition are so poor they're letting us walk the league, so are they making our players look to be world beaters when in reality, none of them will have the top 6 banging down our door. We are going to be promoted but then the fun is over.

QFT

Ironic, eh? No. hahahaha..................its great reading them posts from last july......most people thought we would be shit...........apart from acca who was spot on.....i bet you people feel fools right now ..... I dont feel a fool at all, Im thankful Acca appears to have been right but there was nothing back in September to say we were going to do anything other than ok in this league.

We have one though, I dont see the logic in creating another. The idea is that we have an entire level set aside for those that want to sing, creating another section would either bomb miserably (imho) or would result in a number of those from L7 moving to the new one thereby reducing the numbers in L7 and the subsequent noise created. In turn that would mean more "non-singing" fans would be placed in L7 which would result in more trouble from those who think they're going to be able to sit and watch the match without people standing up around them. As far as I can see, what needs to be done is increase L7's voice, not dissapate it into smaller groups elsewhere, increase that, get them singing a wider range of songs with some good oldies in there and try to motivate the rest of the ground to join in. SJP is not designed for banners (unfortunately), there are no areas where a banner could logically be placed, other than L7 and hanging over the balcony which, if memory serves me has already been tried and battered down by the stewards although Im sure the likes of HF and the lads from the Ultras will be able to confirm/ refute. Edit: And Im in the NE corner, the atmosphere is fairly quiet although when a song does get going theres plenty of us joining in, but I refuse to join the bloke 3 rows in front who permanently tries for Toon Toon, Black n White Army....

Like me women......flat, grey, square, full of info......

Fuck me lads, is anything actually happening in this thread or what?

This is the problem, the wayback project doesn't archive everything only a snippet of info at a point in time.

Surely, if you're into that kind if thing then you'd be prepared. A nice hefty suicide note about how you've struggled with depression quietly for years. Much more preferable than people knowing you were simply chucking your muck Plus it makes it easier for friends and family. "sorry to hear about your Kristian, what was it? Illness? Accident?" "wank"