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The money he made selling our club to the first person that would give him the blood money he wanted? regardless of that persons intentions or ability? selling his shares behind the back of his business parter (ie Shepherd) while he lay in a hospital bed? All that is twatful, at best. To be, however, our clubs life president and never be seen at the ground or never be seen to be questioning whats going on is unforgivable. The final nail in the coffin however is to then write an article bleating on about how clubs being bought by people with money who want them as a plaything is wrong when he sold the club to someone who gave that very same reason for taking over. As for not having a problem with the money he made when he decided to get out, Id love to be in a position where I take on a football club "for the love of it", put in a fairly minimal investment then make millions a year out of it and then sell it on for £55m profit and still have people saying he deserves it. You're one of a kind though CT I'll give you that, in one thread you'll argue that the Halls almost bankrupted us and Ashley saved the club yet in another you say you think they fully deserved the millions they took from us. You cant have it both ways, any criticism thrown at Shepherd must also equally go to the Halls, just as the praise for the good times should to. As Caulkin said, take a look down the road for how selling your local football club should be done. Not for the highest bidder or the first past the post but ensuring they have the clubs interests at heart.

SJH- step up and put your money where your mouth is. On the one hand he bangs on about regional ownership and the clubs belonging to the people, then has a sly dig at NUST. Why not help them out with cash & experience instead of rubbishing the idea Johnny? Help the fans? but how would they pay him for that help? Surely they dont expect it for free? the fucking peasants.

You read that and at times think "yeah that makes sense" then you remember he's the bloke who made a fast few million by selling out our club to the 1st person who could fart £50 notes.

Devastating, Ive met Sophie and various members of her family a couple of times through the work the Trust was doing to help. Lovely little girl and when I met her it was literally a week after I found out I was going to be a father. Seeing a kid like that, suffering from both the cancer and its treatment yet still sitting laughing is both inspirational and heartbreaking and at that point in time made me realise just what was involved in parenthood. I cant imagine what her family are going through at this moment, no amount of stuff beforehand could prepare you for that.

Big clubs are the ones that have the fanbase, infastructure and ambition to be at the top. We used to have all that and more, now its just fanbase and who knows how many more yo yo seasons before most of those go.

Really really?

When the Geordie lass started singing I thought she was probably the wrost singer on earth....until I heard the rest of them, one or two made her seem quite good. tbf the first lass had the wrong song, I would say with a voice like hers maybe a little Barry White would have been more appropriate.

I assume from that hes willing to backdate the pay cut as his career was over two years ago.

Yeah Im working on them at the minute, trouble is because theyre taken from the sites pages they're not in an ideal format, Ive managed to extract the match data from all the other stuff (such as the players, league positions etc) and should have that into a table later on today. The likes of appearances data is straight forward although ideally Id like to generate that based on each individual games data. What we'll then need to do is work out exactly what is missing and start working on getting that in there too. I assumed the xls files were just the same data as the csv's is that the case?

I read that earleir and was quite surprised how "for" Ashley the comments were. Was going to post it myself...... I think they do reflect how the majority feel and that they just want to "move on". Even after all that has happened the current position is creating dare I say a "feel good factor". Naturally we chew these things over more regularly than a lot of fans and by the very nature of the internet set up have some very trenched in positions. I can hand on heart say 99% of fans that get in the cab just talk about the positive aspects of the Toon and not the Ashley / Llambias sagas. seriously.... you need to get more fares.

One day, just once Id like to read a Dekka statement that didnt involve telling us how "fantastic Mike is", live with the abuse you idiot and stop trying to put all the ills of this football club on the heads of the fans. You got us into this mess, you get us out of it but whether you like it or not, you'll not change the way you're viewed by the fans with statements such as this.

Are you one of those window cleaners that does the Sage like?

I'm guessing Mr Meenzer is in the audience fir this one but fuck me it's car crash TV. It's like X-Factor meets Crufts

I think at that stage it should be reclassified as a statement rather than joke.

However if he films it and puts it on youtube then he could be looking at a good pass mark for his A level. Slightly related, who was it we thought could have topped himself that time? put some post on, we took the piss and then didnt post for a week....

FYP

Cheers for that guv, the makers of the programme sent me the clip but I cant be arsed to upload to youtube, anyone feel free to.... http://www.toontastic.net/peasepud/keegan_steps.avi

Hopes Ashley realises that you cant run a football club as a you do a shop and that it needs football people running it not greasy casino managers. Realising his maistakes in the treatment of past heroes he pulls together Keegan and Shearer to oversee all things football related. Expectations Ashley promotes Llambias to "grand chief of all he surveys" while bringing in the editor of "A Love Supreme" as chief executive and making the board up of 3 kids in hoodies from Walthamstow, his pet dog and one of the blokes from the background of East 17, you know one of the two that nobody can name who just danced around looking daft. In our first game, away to Wigan, Geoff Keegan decides that its not fair leaving out the girls and insists on playing Spuggie and Jill Halfpenny up front while banning Ant n Dec from the tuck shop. Meanwhile Harry Shearer spends more time entertaining the youth team with his Bart Simpson voice than actually training them. We lose 6 nil and its all downhill from there.

Alan fucking Smith? Extended contract?

I think we tinkered with the idea a good while ago (probably when they opened theirs) of setting up our own but having t-shirts specific to this site rather than toon related. Sayings and quotes from specific members or threads..... "Thats quite a range" springs to mind as one.

Well that questions now answered. RIP Corey kidda

Nope. I wish you were too

Yep, its a confusing one that, its clearly taken from the University, the Trent is at the top of the curve of houses nearest the camera with the road to the East stand heading straight up what throws you is the building in the fore at the right of the image, it looks just like the old Metreological office which was behind the Gallowgate and which must be just out of shot on the pic.

This is the trouble with these threads and maybe its us as people, our comprehension of good and bad chairmen, owners and directors is based on what we remember personally. Like Leazes I remember the really bad days, back when we were 2nd division, a crumbling stadium and owners who really really didnt give a shit as long as they got to take their pound of flesh out of this club. My recollection is hazier than LMs though because Im younger Reading the history books will tell you who owned us, who scored what goal in whichever glorious 2nd division game. It wont however invoke the feeling of desperation and belief that "this is it", this is our lot, destined to be 2nd division nothings, push for promotion and lose out or maybe get it but have a shit season (or 2 if we're lucky) in the top flight before bombing back down. If you remember those days then you'll see Shepherd and Hall in a better light. Those on here however that are under the age of about 25 will not have any real memory of that (its not your fault its just how it is), all you know is Shepherd/Hall and then Ashley. Even if you're 20 now though, the real good stuff will have passed you before you could appreciate it. The euphoric promotion season, the charge on the Premiership, the resulting games among Europes (and arguably the Worlds) greatest teams plus two FA Cup finals are all now distant memories. For those of you born 1990 onwards you were 10 when it was all over, you missed it. What you got was the constant drip of mediocre managers and the ill treatment (not just by the board but by some fans also) of what could have been our greatest ever manager. What you saw was us dropping down the table and losing ground all the time. None of that however should take the focus away from what Ashley has done to our club, we cant permanently go on measuring things he does against some bits of what Shepherd did, we cant selectively look at the two regimes and say "well ok you give me Champions League football but I give you an allegedly tidy balance sheet" Its not Top Trumps, not a game of "who did what for/to NUFC". This is the here and now, this is the present and what we have is an owner who by his own admission has cocked up, we have a chairman who has not the slightest clue on football or any care about the club hes in charge of. Yes he wants to see us win but he doesnt give a shit for any other reason than its better for the sales and the profit margin. To contrast that against the previous regime and argue that the purchase of players back then was the wrong thing to do then you obviously werent old enough to remember the times, it was that very same purchase of big name, expensive players that got us those good times and made this club into one of the 20 richest in the world. Without those purchases we wouldnt have had Shearer, no Local Hero, no testimonial, Englands number 1 would have always been someone elses not ours. It wouldnt really have mattered though because we wouldnt have had half the team to go with him, no Ginola, no Ferdinand, no Asprilla, none of those names that we recount when giving those glowing testimonials of amazing games past. This isnt a Shepherd arse lick post, at the end I was as sick of him as the rest of you, I cant stand here and say (as Leazes rightly can...and does regularly ) "I told you so" because he did and I told him to fuck off, that "anything has to be better than what we have". I was wrong, anything is clearly not better than the past as has being proven time and time again throughout the last couple of years. Its time to stop comparing Shepherd to Ashley in the financial world because frankly we havent seen just how badly this club is in the shit and I suspect we never will do until its too late. Its amazing though that some people can even contemplate arguing about how we're financially secure under Ashley when the club themselves regularly put out "oh fuck we're dying on our arses financially" statements. Compare the two where it matters however, out there on the pitch and the past regime become absolute fucking saints compared to this lot and that is where it matters as far as Im concerned.