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  1. Fuck sake Leazes, the reason Spurs are being discussed is in relation to the point Stevie made regarding them and the mackems. I have hardly posted in here but simply reading it, it is plain to see that the responses are in regards to the point that was raised as to who was a bigger club, Spurs or the Mackems. Of course you will completely overlook it purely so you can add that to your list of cliches that you like to attach to the majority of posters on here..
  2. The vast majority of English football supporters want a return to standing in grounds, according to a survey obtained by BBC Sport. The poll, which is due to published later in March, found 92% want clubs to bring back safe standing areas. Stadia in the top two divisions have had to be all-seater since the Taylor Report into the Hillsborough disaster. Former Sports Minister Kate Hoey said: "A rational reappraisal of this issue is long overdue. It's time to talk." Pressure for another look at the issue of terracing has been growing, prompting campaigners to demand a fresh debate. The poll was conducted by Football Fans Census (FFC), an independent forum set up to gather and communicate opinion on football-related matters. FFC co-founder Tim Gentles said: "This is the fourth time we have polled fans on this issue and support for standing in safe, designated areas has consistently been over 90%." No new evidence has been presented to suggest there is a more effective way of achieving safety as well as public order than all-seater stadia Sports Minister Richard Caborn The sample for this poll was 2,100 fans from all clubs and divisions, 45% of whom were season-ticket holders. Gentles added that a recent "state of the game" survey found the right to stand was the second most important issue for fans after ticket prices. The survey's findings came as no surprise to Hoey, who tried to re-open the case for terraces during her tenure as sports minister in 2000. But despite Tony Blair and other senior Labour politicians saying they were in favour of the idea when in opposition, they changed their position when in power. As a result, Hoey was quickly silenced by Culture Secretary Chris Smith and replaced soon after by current incumbent Richard Caborn. She was also criticised by relatives of Liverpool fans who lost their lives at Hillsborough. Ninety-six supporters died on 15 April 1989 when the Leppings Lane end at Sheffield Wednesday's ground became over-crowded at the start of an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest. Standing is still allowed and popular at Championship side Cardiff City The official inquiry, conducted by Lord Taylor, blamed poor policing and inadequate facilities for the tragedy but the main recommendation was for the introduction of all-seater stadia and the removal of perimeter fencing. On Wednesday, however, an undeterred Hoey is co-hosting a seminar on the issue at the House of Commons. And with German stadia in the Bundesliga providing a working example of how modern technology and effective stewarding can provide a problem-free mix of seating and standing, she appears to be on safer ground this time. Organised by project management group Drivers Jonas, the seminar is a result of research the company commissioned to find out how satisfied fans were with the new stadia that it helped to deliver (grounds which include Middlesbrough's and Sunderland's). The company's football expert Geoff Aucock said: "We asked fans about their experience at the grounds - sight lines, toilets and so on - but the most interesting thing we found was the interest in bringing back standing areas. "It was an unprompted response as we purposefully did not ask that question. So we thought it was time to re-open the debate. Our part in this is just to make sure the decision-makers have the latest information on the developments in this field." Hoey said it was "only sensible" to bring people together to discuss the issue and expressed her disappointment that the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) and the Football Licensing Authority (FLA), the body the DCMS set up to implement the Taylor Report's recommendations, had declined invitations to attend the seminar. Nobody wants to downplay what happened at Hillsborough or return to the hooligan problems of the 70s and 80s, but fans are different now and so is the technology Phill Gatenby Football Supporters' Federation "They are frightened to put their head above the parapet but it is a pity that they don't feel they can even come to debate the subject," she said. "They have their fixed position, which was fixed 10 years ago, so I am not surprised they're not coming." Indeed, the DCMS and FLA have been consistent in their objection to any review of their all-seater policy. And safe-standing advocates have accused them of being reluctant to engage in debate. BBC Sport asked the DCMS to comment but was told to look at Hansard, the parliamentary record, for the minister's most recent comments on the subject. In reply to a question from Coventry South MP Jim Cunningham on 8 February, Caborn said: "No new evidence has been presented to suggest that there is a single more effective way of achieving safety as well as public order than all-seater stadia. "The government remains fully committed to the current policy. The football authorities have also made it clear they have no wish to re-introduce any standing areas at grounds in the top two divisions." FLA chief executive John de Quidt, however, did agree to be interviewed and gave a forthright defence of the current legislation and denied that the example of standing areas in German stadia was applicable to England. De Quidt said the example he looked at, Hamburg's state-of-the-art Volksparkstadion, where the terrace steps rotate 180 degrees to be replaced by seats when necessary, was too expensive and required too much land to be replicated in England. Standing is key to German football culture, especially with the young He also defended the FLA's research into injury statistics at grounds. These indicate that injuries are decreasing and suggest that all-seater grounds are safer than grounds with standing sections. Pro-standing campaigners, however, challenge the validity of these statistics, saying they include injuries suffered anywhere on the club's premises, regardless of their relevance to standing or even if the conditions existed prior to the game. They also point to the inconsistency of standing being allowed at lower-division football and other sports and, most glaringly, music concerts at all-seater football stadia. Amanda Matthews of pro-standing group Stand Up Sit Down said: "Those statistics are not worth the paper they are printed on. The authorities trot them out because they know their argument is weak. There is no evidence whatsoever that all-seater grounds are safer than ones with standing." But de Quidt said: "The government has made its position clear, that is why we will not be attending (Wednesday's seminar). "It is a forum designed to generate more heat than light. There is a difference between entering into a debate and participating in a circus." No debate on safe standing can ignore the Hillsborough factor But with concerns over ticket prices, an ageing crowd demographic, falling attendances, inconsistencies in the legislation, a perceived lack of atmosphere at many grounds and the undiminished support for standing from fans, pressure is growing on the authorities to re-examine the all-seater requirement. Wednesday's seminar is timely as an early day motion that calls for "the government to re-examine the case for introducing, small, limited sections of safe standing areas" has received cross-party approval. And fans' group the Football Supporters' Federation (FSF) is set to present the DCMS and FLA with a dossier of new evidence that it hopes will force them to reconsider. The FSF's Phill Gatenby is one of the authors of that dossier and has recently returned from a fact-finding trip to Germany, where he saw three Bundesliga matches, all with large, reasonably-priced, trouble-free and very passionate standing sections. "Nobody wants to downplay the seriousness of what happened at Hillsborough or return to the hooligan problems of the 70s and 80s," said Gatenby. "But football fans are different now and so is the technology. Even Lord Taylor said standing was not the reason for Hillsborough. "The DCMS and FLA say it's about safety one minute, public order the next and then claim it's too expensive when those arguments fall down. "The German example is new evidence. Surely it is time for everybody to sit down and talk about this."
  3. Not even a spliff? Nope. It's enough that I am doing funny dances when I am drunk... Well thats true..
  4. Its so much better up here with the ban in place..
  5. What figures? Regarding turnover? I shouldn't even have to dig them out you South Tyneside based mong. The key word within it that surely is "could"...
  6. .. a grumpy scottish smoker? how rare He isn't Scottish though..
  7. I've given it some serious thought mate, but I'm gonna have to give it a miss. Go on, just think what a Hoot it will be...
  8. You caaaarrraazzzzeeee Students...
  9. Shay Given is adamant he will stay with Newcastle for the rest of his career. Given moved to St James' Park from Blackburn in 1997 and has established himself as one the most consistent goalkeepers in the Premiership over the last decade. He has been linked with a move away from the North East but has four years left on his current contract and insists he has no intention of leaving. "I am only a few months away from being at Newcastle for 10 years and that feels great," he explained. "I've played over 400 games for the club and I don't think I'll ever move away, even when I've stopped playing. "There have been rumours linking me with some of the Premiership's biggest clubs but I just ignore that." Given hopes to be remembered as one of the best players in Newcastle's history but is aware he has to help the club capture the silverware that has so far eluded him. He said: "It would be special to be seen as a legend. The big icons are Alan Shearer and Jackie Milburn because they were both great strikers. "They are both legends, but I would be happy if I made Newcastle's all-time XI. "I would love to pick up silverware. I would hate to finish playing having never won anything for Newcastle. "We are still in the Uefa Cup and we have a great chance of winning that as we have a decent squad. "There has been talk of Werder Bremen and Sevilla, but I fancy us and Tottenham to be real contenders for this tournament."
  10. North Tyneside Or we'll see Stevie fuck you up! Noooooo, not the "knuckle dragger"...
  11. If we got there, I will be trying to pull any favours I can. I'll be knocking on Wattie Smiths door as I'm sure he still has plenty of friends at Hampden..
  12. I know this place has been quiet as of late but is this what we have resorted to, a Tyneside Friends Reunited..
  13. My application was in a long time ago, gloryhuntingtastic tbh..
  14. There Ain't No Party Like A Scottish Mag Party...
  15. Yep, cos attendances are all that matter. I've never understood why loads of people do have a fixation about crowd/fan numbers and the "size" of a club. I've always considered it to be the equivalent of comparing the size of your dicks. Ok, it might be nice to be well hung, but it is in the end absolutely worthless if you are restricted to wanking. In the end all that matters is success. I wonder what made you think of dicks when reading this thread..
  16. So a forum for someone that's from Hampshire and has seen the toon twice in his life and defines the word "gimp", someone from Leeds that ended up supporting the toon cos he had some dodgy LSD, someone from Saudi Arabia, who in fairness knows more than most of the cunts on there, someone that's my age who hadn't been to a home game till 1994, don't know bobyule, can't say nothing about jonnhall one of the best writers I've seen on the net, again Paul pisses black n white that much is evident, but fuckin hell I can't think of many people that are crying themselves to sleep about not being given an invite. Stevie in having at pop at anyone outside of Tyneside shocker...
  17. You better tell us your source or that Glen character will throw another hissy fit...
  18. A - and B - What the big problem?
  19. Some of those "so called glory seekers" still splash out year after year to support the club. Even with those, the club still fail to fill the ground these days.... Yeah we're ONLY averaging 50,000 Aye but the point is shitloads of people, sorry gloryhunters, from outwith the area help fill the ground yet the so called uber local supporter is still failing to even see us reach full attendance. If it wasn't for these people still travelling week in week out the crowds would be even less.
  20. Some of those "so called glory seekers" still splash out year after year to support the club. Even with those, the club still fail to fill the ground these days....
  21. Glenn Roeder and Newcastle United could not be more focused on Thursday's UEFA Cup tie with AZ Alkmaar. That's why the United boss does not want James Milner and Steven Taylor to even think about playing at Wembley for the England Under-21 side until the games at the DSB Stadion and The Valley on Sunday are out of the way. But Roeder himself is keeping an eye on what is happening at Manchester City where Stuart Pearce is fighting for his managerial life. If Pearce loses his job then he could take over as full-time boss of the England Under-21 side. But on the other hand, one of the conditions of Pearce staying at the City of Manchester Stadium is that he steps down from the England Under-21 set-up. Roeder knows that his own No 2 Nigel Pearson could not be rated more highly than he is at the FA and that there is already talk about him taking over as the Under-21 boss. The United boss does not want to lose his No 2 because the pair of them complement each other and the respect between them is mutual. Pearce is now the favourite to become the next Premiership manager to lose his job - a position Roeder found himself in earlier this season in some quarters. And while Alan Pardew, Les Reed and Iain Dowie have already gone the journey, Roeder was the highest placed English manager in the Premiership last season and he would love to repeat that achievement this term. That's why he will not fly down to London with the United squad on Saturday for the game at Charlton the following day. Instead he will take in Middlesbrough's home match with Manchester City. He told me today: "Manchester City are our next visitors and it is important I see just how they are playing away from home. "It is also very important I am with my own team the night before a match and on Saturday night I will jump on a train and head to London."
  22. All I will say is don't even go there. You would never know the difference down in Phatpong, so I unlike two of my mates never bothered. Sounds like a nickname for that 42 stone wifey's fanny tbh. hehe It's one of the best places you can imagine. It's a huge market, and I mean huge where you can buy absolutely anything, and I mean anything, it comes alive at night and is heaving, there's loads of bars there, people coming up to you asking you if you want this that and the other. The night we had there I could hardly see I was that drunk, can't drink in the heat, the next day the lads told me I lost 2000 bahts playin Connect Four with some Thai prozzie. Blatant euphemism...
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