Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Anyone change their opinion of our win over spuds after seeing them be comprehensively outclassed in all areas of play at their own ground?? Seems that a few people thought we were lucky to beat them, I think they're seriously over-rated p.s. Loving the fact Ireland's number 1 striker can't score past O'Shea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 We were lucky to beat them, although they probably are overrated by the media. Could see them finishing above us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 No, we got hammered by them and didn't deserve to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3232 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 If they are shite we are shiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19885 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 i still expect them to finish above us but we're similar clubs in many ways. both have ideas abover our station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 If Kings not playing they look shite in defence, such a shame hes out for upto 8 weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 They have many more things right than we do. They are missing teeth upfront, I think Defoe has gone downhill since the Milan £20m links etc...They are missing key players and Lennon is has begun to believe his own press without having really done it this year. They will struggle till they get their left side sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 They'l never be the club we are for fans and persona and the like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinofbeans 86 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 jol's not a bad coach, but he has too many misfiring players. their best defender is dawson when kings out and he's not actually that good. zokora is shit, ghaly is ghastly and keane and defoe are not bad at all but neither of them are 20 a season strikers. as for where the club is located, its a slum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Personally I think Tottenham have as many problems as we do, and in recent times (following Roeder's appointment) have brought in more duff players (for the sake of it? Ahem) than we have. I'd rather have Roeder than Jol, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Personally I think Tottenham have as many problems as we do, and in recent times (following Roeder's appointment) have brought in more duff players (for the sake of it? Ahem) than we have. I'd rather have Roeder than Jol, personally. I would have thought Jol is tactically superior. The problem he has is that a number of his players believe themselves to already be superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I'd take Berbatov, Chimbonda and Malbranque, of the recent additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Personally I think Tottenham have as many problems as we do, and in recent times (following Roeder's appointment) have brought in more duff players (for the sake of it? Ahem) than we have. I'd rather have Roeder than Jol, personally. I would have thought Jol is tactically superior. The problem he has is that a number of his players believe themselves to already be superstars. I'd go along with the tactical part, to an extent, but I'd certainly question his signings and the spirit/fight of his side too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35004 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Haven't seen much evidence of Spurs signing crap players for the sake of it tbh. They seem to be building a squad to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3232 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Haven't seen much evidence of Spurs signing crap players for the sake of it tbh. They seem to be building a squad to me. JENAS!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Haven't seen much evidence of Spurs signing crap players for the sake of it tbh. They seem to be building a squad to me. Not for the sake of it, but certainly there have been a number of poor aquisitions, and it doesn't seem to have improved the squad any, despite greater depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 They're main weakness is that now in no part of the park do they have a player who can impose thier will on the game. They basically miss Carrick who was a master for them at adjusting the tempo and choosing passes and King at the back who marshalled the def. Ghaly is a mediocre buy and not really better than Huddelstone (who is still 3 years away from really knowing what he should be doing). Their left side is the real weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Haven't seen much evidence of Spurs signing crap players for the sake of it tbh. They seem to be building a squad to me. Not for the sake of it, but certainly there have been a number of poor aquisitions, and it doesn't seem to have improved the squad any, despite greater depth. But he can also see some the weak links in his team like Davenport, let him go to West Ham and signed a replacement. Whilst we are left with Bramble and are even considering giving him a new contract.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8899 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Haven't seen much evidence of Spurs signing crap players for the sake of it tbh. They seem to be building a squad to me. Not for the sake of it, but certainly there have been a number of poor aquisitions, and it doesn't seem to have improved the squad any, despite greater depth. Well, we'll have to judge how someone like Roeder is doing in the transfer market when he signs the same amount of players. I think there will always be some players who turn out to be rubbish. That happens at every club, be it Manchester, Arsenal, Spurs or us... Them having not improved their squad is questionable tbh. Anyway, the new, trendy spursbashing is really getting boring tbstbs. SPUDS R RILLY SHIET!11!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Spurs are the shitest team in the league and Martin O'Neill is the worst manager though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 I just think they got comprehesively outclassed all over the pitch, hence ManU scored from all over, and I can't see how people can still say they were unlucky to lose to us. They had less shots on target than ManU at their own ground, hardly the sign of an unlucky team is it? If Jol had a tactical plan in that game, I couldn't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8899 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I just think they got comprehesively outclassed all over the pitch, hence ManU scored from all over, and I can't see how people can still say they were unlucky to lose to us. They had less shots on target than ManU at their own ground, hardly the sign of an unlucky team is it? If Jol had a tactical plan in that game, I couldn't see it Tbf, with a bit less luck, ManU would have murdered us at SJP as well (where we had a lot less shots on goal). And to say we weren't lucky against Spurs is plainly ridiculous when they had 21 shots on goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 336 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Just listening to the news on 5 Live and they had a clip off 606 last night and a Spurs fan was going mental, slagged everyone off it sounded like his head was just about to explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I think Lennon is HUGELY overrated, not to say he isnt a good player but not as good as he is made out to be. Would like to see his stats in regards to end product, I know it wasn't too great last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 This is what I posted on Spurs a few days ago... An example of a club that has had success with a Director of football is Spurs, 3 years ago Arnasen came into the club and completely altered the club from youth team up to their starting 11, he got rid of all the dead wood at the club even if it meant paying their contracts up, he then replaced with cheap young players who's transfer value could only rise (Carrick, Robinson etc) On top of that he scouted youth teams to get the best young talent signed up to Spurs, even if it meant loaning them back out they were still signed to Spurs before their value went up, Lennon, Huddlestone, Dawson etc. Even with shite like Davenport and Atouba they've managed to sell on for more than they paid for them. I'll address your point about the last decade, have Spurs been better than us over that period of time? No they haven't, however in the last 3 years since they employed a Director of football they've not only caught up with us but have sailed by, they have a far superior squad and have managed to do this while remaining debt free. We on the other hand have a poor squad with no depth, average players who we can't move on as nobody in their right mind will match the wages we pay them, a wage bill that is running too high and a debt of over £80 million. Such an overhaul by a DOF has made it possible for Spurs to bid £10 million for a top 17 year old without damaging their finances too much, at the same time we have to sniff around for players on loan because we haven't got a pot to piss in. Have Spurs been better than us over the past decade? No, however I have no doubt that we won't be better than then them over the next decade if Shepherd is still in charge. As a club I don't think you can fault the way they are being run off the field, I personally don't rate Jol that highly as a coach but even if they replace him they will still have a solid structure to build on which was put together by a DOF, even the shit they have signed they've sold on at a profit. Funnily enough Leazes slags off the idea of a Director of Football like Spurs have but then talks about how much he admires Arsene Wenger and his youth policy, not realising it's the same person that scouted before bring to Wenger's attention these young players Arsenal have brought through recently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Comolli Damien Comolli joined Tottenham Hotspur FC in September 2005 as sporting director, with overall responsibility for the medical, academy, scouting and club secretarial departments, replacing the outgoing Frank Arnesen. He was born in Beziers, France and played as a youth team player at Monaco. In 1992 he began a successful three-year coaching job with Monaco where he looked after the club’s Under-16 squads and won the state championship at that level. Comolli completed a law degree in 1995 and gained his French coaching licence. He then spent seven seasons with Arsenal as European scout and is credited with the discovery of several of Arsenal's youngsters, including Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Eboue and played a major role in signing Thiery Henry and Robert Pires. When he was technical director of AS Saint-Étienne, the club was successful, finishing sixth in the league and reaching the semi-finals of the French Cup. During his time there he also oversaw a number of important first team signings and developed partnerships with junior and amateur clubs, locally, nationally and internationally. He speaks fluent English, Spanish, and French. Still, I'm sure Kenneth Shepherd can do a better job for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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