And finally the one you've always wanted to ask but have been scared to. Well Bob has

[GeordieMessiah 0]

Our staff night out at work last week ended up in the yard gay bar as the lass whos birthday it was is a lemon.

 

what a horrible place. Im happy for people to be gay but is there any need for them to act like mincing little puffs all night! Every fucker in there was swanning around like julian clary sticking their tongues down random blokes throats, making shit cock jokes over the karaoke and generally doing their best john inman impressions.

 

If you must have sex with men then whats wrong with acting like a normal human the rest of the time?

 

Oh dear. Sounds like someone's got a bit of a personal crisis bubbling under the surface!

[Radgina 1]

Good point....Too much attention to detail.

 

corretamundo...and thay look FANTASTIC !!!!

 

So the truly reliable gaydar is seeing whether you're trying to get into their pants then?

 

nope ...I think the truly reliable "Gaydar" is finding out wheher they want to get into your pants or not ??? You know when peeps say " I have gay friends and they are great" to join in with the "in" crowd...well I had them before they were fashionable to hav them ( me being so old an all that ). They tell me waht they think no questions asked, they tell me whether I look shit , no quetions asked , they tell me my bloke is an arse (no questions asked) and the twats pinch my lippy....but I love tehm all....every last man jack of them....so much more than my lasses mates !!!

[Meenzer 14055]

but I love tehm all....every last man jack of them....so much more than my lasses mates !!!

Radgi in lesbo shockah!

[ewerk 26348]

Our staff night out at work last week ended up in the yard gay bar as the lass whos birthday it was is a lemon.

 

what a horrible place. Im happy for people to be gay but is there any need for them to act like mincing little puffs all night! Every fucker in there was swanning around like julian clary sticking their tongues down random blokes throats, making shit cock jokes over the karaoke and generally doing their best john inman impressions.

 

If you must have sex with men then whats wrong with acting like a normal human the rest of the time?

 

Fellas acting camp in a gay bar?!

 

Well I never.

[Gemmill 34464]

Is it true that gay blokes can generally tell the straight people from a mile off, or is the 'gaydar' thing a big myth?

Bloody good question really! Varies from person to person I reckon. My gaydar isn't outrageously sharp, though fuck knows it's improved a lot since living in Hamburg and London. It's inevitable that you hide a lot more of yourself somewhere like Newcastle or any smaller city I guess. Anyway, gaydar's probably a bit of a myth really - it stands to reason that you'll recognise your own traits in other people, after all, and I bet a lot of it's a self-confidence thing, both on the part of the person doing the observing and the person being observed. And the whole point of gaydar - picking up on subtle clues about the other person - is really only a variation on the kind of things everyone does when weighing up people in everyday life anyway.

 

Of course, the rise of metrosexuality has made life a bit more difficult, though generally even the most comfortable-with-himself heterosexual male wearer of a pink T-shirt will still project an aura of "I'm only doing this because I hear the lasses like it, so don't even think about it, RuPaul."

 

now you see I pride myself on my "gaydar" ...have even managed to "tell" a few peeps from work which way they must be swinging but it can be a pain in the arse "lnot literally" when you see someone out in Toon who looks lush to have your gaydar strumming ...

 

Here man woman, just because they want nowt to do with you doesn't mean they're gay. It could just be a sign of good eyesight or an aversion to staggering stotting drunks.

 

By the way, GM PM'd me to ask if I could find out which colour hankie would denote that he likes to have his fudge packed rather than do the packing. Says he was just curious or something.

[JawD 31]

All this hankie colour coding has really got me thinking about magicians ...

[Gemmill 34464]

Our staff night out at work last week ended up in the yard gay bar as the lass whos birthday it was is a lemon.

 

what a horrible place. Im happy for people to be gay but is there any need for them to act like mincing little puffs all night! Every fucker in there was swanning around like julian clary sticking their tongues down random blokes throats, making shit cock jokes over the karaoke and generally doing their best john inman impressions.

 

If you must have sex with men then whats wrong with acting like a normal human the rest of the time?

 

Think about it though, if you go to any scabby bar in the Bigg Market with one of those twatful DJs who thinks he missed a calling in comedy, the night will invariably involve some lass getting dragged up on stage and the entire bar of lads singing "Get your. Tits out. Get your fucking tits out." to the tune of Doop. Is that much different to what you're describing?

 

And as someone who's worked behind a bar in a nightclub for three years, the number of fanny rat straight blokes who frequented the place far outweighed anything that went on on the gay nights. On gay night, the blokes did seem a tad promiscuous, but they at least carried it off with a bit more panache than some scruffy little twat in a burberry shirt who walks like the missing link and clamps onto anything remotely female and literally licks her make up off her entire face.

[NJS 3978]

I've always found it strange how much "ignorance" of the stuff in this thread still exists - I'm no expert but I honestly thought most people in 2007 were aware of such things as gay men being generally givers or takers. I mean you did know that the same applies to Lesbians didn't you folks?

 

I guess theres an attitude somewhere of "I don't want to think about it".

 

On anal sex theres seems to be a lot of fear of the messier aspects but a good wash and even going as far as using enema kits if you're that fussy would mostly ally those concerns if you did want to try it.

 

Having said that anyone who was that nervous who is on the receiving end would then make it more difficult.

 

As an aside one of the most funnily offensive posts I've ever seen on a message board was on one of the forums on the Richard Dawkins site arguing about religious morality where a "strong" christian was arguing that homosexuality had some god given risks (apart from the usual) such as anal and penile cancers. Someone replied asking him how he knew for certain that his Dad hadn't given his Mam one up the arse on any number of occasions - I'm sure it was a triple whammy for someone like that not wanting to know that 1) his parents had sex, 2) heteros could have anal sex and 3) putting 1) and 2) together

[luckyluke 1]

Do you really want my take on it?

 

Obviously it's not like there's a 50% split between pitchers and catchers - plenty of guys would call themselves versatile, and a decent number of them aren't even lying just to widen the net of potential shaggees or anything. I'm not averse to the idea of being on the bottom myself at some point, as long as it's with someone I trust to do it right and be careful and all that, but I'm top generally and I have to say it'd be far more about giving my partner pleasure than filling any kind of deep-seated urge to do it on my part. As such, I can't really say from experience exactly what the appeal is for regular "takers", but I'd assume that the question isn't dissimilar to asking what a woman gets out of plain-vanilla hetero sex, since she's the one on the receiving end, if you'll pardon the simplification. All I know is we fellas have this prostate thingummy that we can probably safely compare with the G-spot for the purposes of this exercise, and therefore it's not the worst thing in the world to have stimulated by whatever means. And as mentioned above, with stimulation comes the possibility of a reacharound (or not around, depending on the position) or doing a Jimbo on yourself while your partner's jackhammering away or whatever.

 

In terms of attraction and knowing who's who/what... for whatever reason, it'll often follow that the more "masculine" men are tops and the more "feminine" men are bottoms, and also that they won't be attracted to their own type. But obviously it doesn't always work like that - just look at the bear scene, for a start, though I'd rather not - and when it's not screamingly obvious, you do get into situations where you'll end up with someone who generally prefers to be the same role as you. In some cases one person will be "versatile" enough to not mind being on the other end of the equation to usual, other times it just doesn't happen.

 

It's worth noting that a common belief about us deviants appears to be that we're all about the back-door action. It's quite the opposite in my experience - oral (regular, 69 or whatever) is so much more straightforward, less role-bound, less messy, less awkward/potentially painful/damaging and - albeit not particularly accurately - less associated with nasty diseases than anal, so it tends to enjoy widespread currency in gay circles. Often you'll get couples who've been together for years and years and hardly ever had anal sex at all.

 

Now are you sure you still want my take on it?

 

Very educational Meenzer, thank you.

 

But what the hell is the 'bear scene'?

[Tooj 17]

All this hankie colour coding has really got me thinking about magicians ...

Wizard's Sleeves?

[luckyluke 1]

All this hankie colour coding has really got me thinking about magicians ...

Wizard's Sleeves?

 

Not in this case.

[Toonraider 0]

Do you really want my take on it?

 

Obviously it's not like there's a 50% split between pitchers and catchers - plenty of guys would call themselves versatile, and a decent number of them aren't even lying just to widen the net of potential shaggees or anything. I'm not averse to the idea of being on the bottom myself at some point, as long as it's with someone I trust to do it right and be careful and all that, but I'm top generally and I have to say it'd be far more about giving my partner pleasure than filling any kind of deep-seated urge to do it on my part. As such, I can't really say from experience exactly what the appeal is for regular "takers", but I'd assume that the question isn't dissimilar to asking what a woman gets out of plain-vanilla hetero sex, since she's the one on the receiving end, if you'll pardon the simplification. All I know is we fellas have this prostate thingummy that we can probably safely compare with the G-spot for the purposes of this exercise, and therefore it's not the worst thing in the world to have stimulated by whatever means. And as mentioned above, with stimulation comes the possibility of a reacharound (or not around, depending on the position) or doing a Jimbo on yourself while your partner's jackhammering away or whatever.

 

In terms of attraction and knowing who's who/what... for whatever reason, it'll often follow that the more "masculine" men are tops and the more "feminine" men are bottoms, and also that they won't be attracted to their own type. But obviously it doesn't always work like that - just look at the bear scene, for a start, though I'd rather not - and when it's not screamingly obvious, you do get into situations where you'll end up with someone who generally prefers to be the same role as you. In some cases one person will be "versatile" enough to not mind being on the other end of the equation to usual, other times it just doesn't happen.

 

It's worth noting that a common belief about us deviants appears to be that we're all about the back-door action. It's quite the opposite in my experience - oral (regular, 69 or whatever) is so much more straightforward, less role-bound, less messy, less awkward/potentially painful/damaging and - albeit not particularly accurately - less associated with nasty diseases than anal, so it tends to enjoy widespread currency in gay circles. Often you'll get couples who've been together for years and years and hardly ever had anal sex at all.

 

Now are you sure you still want my take on it?

 

Yes very sure

 

Thanks for explaining your 'take' on this subject so informatively Meenzer. I think we all appreciate that, its good to have someone to explain these things and bust the myths!

 

The question you raised that I've highlighted, is a very good point, I suppose (if shes lucky) and things 'match up' the woman is stimulated enough to reach orgasm directly as a result of the act, whereas I'd imagine the male 'taker' would have to masturbate himself or be masturbated, not quite the same thing. Still I suppose the same end result is hopefully achieved to everyones satisfaction

 

God What a subject before lunchtime!

[Gejon 2]

I've always found it strange how much "ignorance" of the stuff in this thread still exists - I'm no expert but I honestly thought most people in 2007 were aware of such things as gay men being generally givers or takers. I mean you did know that the same applies to Lesbians didn't you folks?

 

I guess theres an attitude somewhere of "I don't want to think about it".

 

On anal sex theres seems to be a lot of fear of the messier aspects but a good wash and even going as far as using enema kits if you're that fussy would mostly ally those concerns if you did want to try it.

 

Having said that anyone who was that nervous who is on the receiving end would then make it more difficult.

 

As an aside one of the most funnily offensive posts I've ever seen on a message board was on one of the forums on the Richard Dawkins site arguing about religious morality where a "strong" christian was arguing that homosexuality had some god given risks (apart from the usual) such as anal and penile cancers. Someone replied asking him how he knew for certain that his Dad hadn't given his Mam one up the arse on any number of occasions - I'm sure it was a triple whammy for someone like that not wanting to know that 1) his parents had sex, 2) heteros could have anal sex and 3) putting 1) and 2) together

 

 

On the whole (excuse any pun you may get there) I don't think thats the case. I think most people (myself included) just assumed both had a go at it and if you think you know something you wouldn't question it.

 

This thread has been very interesting but its certainly not something that has been nagging away at me to find the answer to and its not "because i don't want to think about it" its just something that has never popped into my head thinking about.

[Meenzer 14055]

But what the hell is the 'bear scene'?

Bears are big, masculine-acting, usually slightly older fellas with plenty of body and facial hair. Basically!

 

The question you raised that I've highlighted, is a very good point, I suppose (if shes lucky) and things 'match up' the woman is stimulated enough to reach orgasm directly as a result of the act, whereas I'd imagine the male 'taker' would have to masturbate himself or be masturbated, not quite the same thing. Still I suppose the same end result is hopefully achieved to everyones satisfaction

 

God What a subject before lunchtime!

Yeah, for all a man can reach orgasm through prostate stimulation alone, I presume it's not as straightforward as the equivalent is for women. I'm guessing though, obviously!

 

And never mind lunch, I haven't even had breakfast yet. Not sure I have the appetite now :D

[NJS 3978]

Yeah, for all a man can reach orgasm through prostate stimulation alone, I presume it's not as straightforward as the equivalent is for women. I'm guessing though, obviously!

 

Judging by all the porn I've watched there is nothing guaranteed to make a woman orgasm more than rear end action.

 

Thats real isn't it?

[Meenzer 14055]

Yeah, for all a man can reach orgasm through prostate stimulation alone, I presume it's not as straightforward as the equivalent is for women. I'm guessing though, obviously!

 

Judging by all the porn I've watched there is nothing guaranteed to make a woman orgasm more than rear end action.

 

Thats real isn't it?

 

I certainly think it's a point worth making to every lass you want to try it with.

[Super_Steve_Howey 0]

Eye-opening thread to be sure. I never really thought about it, but would it not follow the Lesbian model, where there is usually (correct me if i'm wrong ladies) a masculine and a feminine member of a relationship, isn't this the case with guys? I.e. the more masculine gays (i.e. the ones you can't spot ) pair up with the more obvious feminine gays (not sure which side the raging Queens are though )? Or is that an over simplification/generalisation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

p.s. not sure if anyone else has noticed, but does anyone else think Meenzer's a bit, you know....

 

 

[ewerk 26348]

 

By the way, GM PM'd me to ask if I could find out which colour hankie would denote that he likes to have his fudge packed rather than do the packing. Says he was just curious or something.

 

This hanky craic is more complicated than I imagined.

 

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